Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy

Posted By: doncarson

Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 09:11 PM

Need first hand help on what to run...
I want to drop in a hemi in my 65 coronet 2dr post for FUN nostalgia racing NOT weekly competitive, just a fast RELIABLE hemi super stock style clone. I really want to run around 10.50 ETs.
The car is now a 383 bracket car w/ roll bar, SS springs, and a few race goodies nothing special. Weighs 3750lbs.

With the hemi I am planning on a dana w/ 456 spool and beefy 727 ( $2500.- 3000. build) but I can't spend $20k on a motor.

I want the crossram and chrome valve covers look. But both the Mopar crate 426 465HP can buy as low as $12,995!. and 472 530 HP $15,995. come with single plane and I would have to spend another $2k or so. The Indy 572 770hp is $16,995 which is a killer motor BUT again the crossram upgrade is $3,450. and will not accept stock valve covers.
Is it a good idea to go with the 465 HP and add a better cam, still only around 500HP?
What motor do you run or recommend to get me 10.50s and keep the super stock crossram look AND a fun, reliable motor?? The car will NOT be for the street, but NOT an all out race car.
Thanks,
Don

Posted By: tboomer

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 09:14 PM

Don...Bob George Racing...

Posted By: rickraw

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 10:01 PM

check out muscle motors!!!!!!!!

Posted By: rickraw

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 10:02 PM

check out muscle motors!!!!

Posted By: viperblue72

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 10:07 PM

I wouldn't buy a briggs n stratton from indy.

Posted By: HEMIFRED

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 10:49 PM

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Don...Bob George Racing...

now close to 300 trouble free passes with my 588" from BG.

Posted By: 68X426

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 10:53 PM

RUN away from INDY.

Posted By: fishy340

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 10:55 PM

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I wouldn't buy a briggs n stratton from indy.

aren't they wonderful to the normal buyer? lol go through bg racing

Posted By: quickd100

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 11:17 PM

Talk to Bob at Bob George Racing, great guy. Dave

Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/14/11 11:20 PM

Call Bob George! He has HEMI's sitting in his shop.

Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/15/11 12:32 AM

I wouldn't buy from Indy if you payed me.
I called them yesterday for a quick question on spring pressure on a set of heads I spent alot of money on. The guy was such a jerk for a simple spring pressure question that I just said screw it and hung up.

Good luck. Sounds like a cool combo.

Posted By: doncarson

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/15/11 03:23 AM

Wow! I guess Indy is off my list for suew.
I will call BG racing and see what they can do for me.
Thanks for your help.
At 3800lbs with 4.56, 727 4000 converter does 650hp sound about right to get me around 10.50 ETs?
Thanks guys,
Don

Posted By: Eric

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/15/11 03:38 AM

Only problem you will have with BGR is running 10.50's.........

You will have to put a brick under the pedal to keep it out of the 9's...

Posted By: Hemi_Joel

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/15/11 02:15 PM

For your purpose, you need something custom built, not chosen off a menu.

You want reliable, low maintenence, not too costly, 700 + horsepower.

If I was you, I would build a 540, 4.5 bore x 4.25 stroke, about 12.5 to 1 compression, with steel rods and all off the shelf parts, plus a flat tappet cam with about .650 lift, that is probably the cheapest short block you can build. Put your $$ into a really nice flowing set of heads.

Don't get too exotic with rods, rings and pistons, you don't need to spend the $ or deal with the maintenence. Roller cams are great for making power, but to run 10.50's you don't need it, and again it is a lot more $$ and maintenence to run a roller cam. If you keep the lift down in the .650 range, and the rpm reasonable, you won't need high dollar, high maintenence valve train parts, just use stock rockers with decent push rods and the motor will live for many years.
If you decide later you want to go 10.0's, just upgrade to a roller cam and better valve train and you'll be ready to go.

Good luck! Joel

Posted By: doncarson

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/15/11 02:31 PM

Thanks for the info Hemi-Joel.
That is just what I'm looking for.
I appreciate all the info.
I'll be going to the Chicago Mopar Happening this weekeng and start my hunt.
All the best,
Don

Posted By: Dragula

Re: Thoughts on Hemi crate vs Indy - 07/15/11 03:07 PM

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If you keep the lift down in the .650 range, and the rpm reasonable, you won't need high dollar, high maintenence valve train parts, just use stock rockers with decent push rods and the motor will live for many years