Mopars @ E-Town who's going? May 15th and 16th!!

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Hey that couple hundred dollars total the state would collect will really bring down the couple billion deficit the state has. They are desperate, you can`t expect them to cut spending or taxes. They have to get creative in ways to get $$$ to waste/spend so they go after easy money. Also , One Bad Fish is right.

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last time I was there this guy won

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I had you by a fender!!Here's the PROOF

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Weather isn't looking to good for Sunday.. Never fails on this event...

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Muffled cars on saturday, and Showers/ Thunderstorms for Sunday...

NOT GOOD!!

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No Points at Island this Saturday so I`ll be there both days racing my D150

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Island pulled the plug 11am Saturday morning...

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Looking at the weather, It looks like the rain should be north of ETown by race time this morning, Sunday

Will be there seeing how fast a total stock 09 Challenger runs

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I don't know what weather forecast you're looking at, but shows 50% chance of rain, 12am on. Looking at the radar map, Don't really like those odds.

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USNJ0141

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RAINED OUT!!

5 miles from home, lucky I called the track! Would've towed down there for nothing...

Weather never seems to cooperate with this event.

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Turned around 2/3 of the way there

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RAINED OUT!!

5 miles from home, lucky I called the track! Would've towed down there for nothing...

Weather never seems to cooperate with this event.

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Is it any wonder that this event was swapped with the NHRA Whatever they Call it Nationals that run in June. Historically the Mopar @ Etown race had better weather...
The track managerment has to do whats right for the BIG EVENT since it's a cash cow for them.
Not saying I like it but that's just the way it is

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It was a great time. Al you got the results incorrect. Brian beat me in round 4 which was the B1 class final. He was dialed 11.60. I went -.012 red against his .160 light. I ran it out the door and ran a 10.87 on a 10.86. Would have been a great race for sure. Then in the King of the Hill bracket with the final four class winners, he beat the blown 68 Dart and then lost to the 16 second Neon which is the same guy that won the whole thing last year there also. Brian did a great job battling a leaking tube for the last three rounds. Congrats to him! Although low on car count and spectator count, I never miss this event and it always is a great time.

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I stand corrected,DRJAYO took out DRJAYO It was Brians day and I'm happy for him.We all had a great time,the overcast kepy us from BAKING Was good seeing you and Amilio

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First off let me start by thanking all the die-hards that still come out for this event.You make it worth our while to retain this show. The folks that show up are having fun and that is important.
Some of you, however, really must have your heads in the sand. Take a look around. All of the muscle car shows are shrinking, and shrinking rapidly. I said it before, and I'll say it again, The hobby is "greying". Many musclecar owners are now in their 50s and '60s. They've "been there and done that". The excitement is gone. In addition, many of us are facing serious financial difficulties in this terrible economy. All you have to do, if you don't believe me is to come out on a regular race day and count the number of "classic" Mopars...........One? maybe two? Usually none! And this is at a big, famous race track in a major metropolitan area.
The sad fact(for you) is that you are being replaced by a new generation that shows little interest in our type of car. Proof? How about Twenty Two Thousand people for Waterfest, a two day VW and Audi show in the dog days of August. Earlier this year we had a sport compact race with Nine Thousand spectators on a Sunday and ATCO had to close the gates before noon on Honda Day because there was no more room for spectators or racers. They (spectators)were actually cutting the chain link fence with bolt cutters to let their friends in!
We offer them the same thing that we offer you. They come, you don't.
Pontiac Day, which used to bring a couple hundred cars had about 30 cars this year. Have we really messed things up that badly? I don't think so. You want the event to grow? Talk all of your friends into actually showing up and to stop crying into their keyboards.
Flame on!
WF

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Sorry, and with all due respect, I disagree with your statements for the most part.

Yes, the economy is in the dumps. We all know that. But there are people that are still getting out and enjoying the hobby. Lots of people. Get in your truck next week and head up to Lebanon Valley for Musclepalooza and then tell me that the muscle era cars are dead. The place draws an unbelievable crowd! Packed to the rafters. Same for the Carlisle events. And while I havent been to the Nats in the last few years, I hear they are still drawing a big crowd as well. Yet, Musclepalooxa at Etown doesn't nearly have the "juice" that the Valley has. Something's just wrong here. And as a business owner myself, I don't like anyone telling me how to run my business so I won't do the same for Etown, but constructive criticism is certainly welcomed. At the end of the day, a bigger, more popular event is good for all. The spectators/entrants have more fun and the house makes more money. Everyone wins.

The import events seem to be more about the "culture"(women, music, and )than the cars. But give them their due, they figured it out somehow.


I won't outline all of the changes that I believe should be made, as frankly, they would mirror what most have already previously posted. Read and take note I suppose. The one change that should absolutely be made is to change the date of the event. It rains just about every year on that weekend. Perhaps people are just "crossing it off their list", assuming that its going to rain anyway. The string of bad weather for this event is beyond a coincidence at this point. Move it or lose it.

Regards,

MB

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First off let me start by thanking all the die-hards that still come out for this event.You make it worth our while to retain this show. The folks that show up are having fun and that is important.
Some of you, however, really must have your heads in the sand. Take a look around. All of the muscle car shows are shrinking, and shrinking rapidly. I said it before, and I'll say it again, The hobby is "greying". Many musclecar owners are now in their 50s and '60s. They've "been there and done that". The excitement is gone. In addition, many of us are facing serious financial difficulties in this terrible economy. All you have to do, if you don't believe me is to come out on a regular race day and count the number of "classic" Mopars...........One? maybe two? Usually none! And this is at a big, famous race track in a major metropolitan area.
The sad fact(for you) is that you are being replaced by a new generation that shows little interest in our type of car. Proof? How about Twenty Two Thousand people for Waterfest, a two day VW and Audi show in the dog days of August. Earlier this year we had a sport compact race with Nine Thousand spectators on a Sunday and ATCO had to close the gates before noon on Honda Day because there was no more room for spectators or racers. They (spectators)were actually cutting the chain link fence with bolt cutters to let their friends in!
We offer them the same thing that we offer you. They come, you don't.
Pontiac Day, which used to bring a couple hundred cars had about 30 cars this year. Have we really messed things up that badly? I don't think so. You want the event to grow? Talk all of your friends into actually showing up and to stop crying into their keyboards.
Flame on!
WF

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Get in your truck next week and head up to Lebanon Valley for Musclepalooza and then tell me that the muscle era cars are dead. The place draws an unbelievable crowd! Packed to the rafters. Same for the Carlisle events. And while I havent been to the Nats in the last few years, I hear they are still drawing a big crowd as well. Yet, Musclepalooxa at Etown doesn't nearly have the "juice" that the Valley has.

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I doubt Hemmings will use E-town as the fall event much longer. Their staff was not at all happy with the turnout compared to NY. And anyone that's been to Lebanon Valley knows it's in the middle of nowhere, so to get the turnout they do must mean they are doing something right.

After reading Walt's comments, it's no wonder the show is what it is.

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I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the folks disagreeing with Walter. It's pretty simple that if the 200+ folks from this site alone that no longer attend and make excuses as to why simply showed up one year, that would make the following year one of anticipation. That would also show the facility that the event has life which would in turn create the finances from the draw, not the tracks' account to provide some of the "events" being discussed such as legend appearances which cost money(sometimes in the thousands of dollars), hemi shootout event with sponsorship and payout etc. Regardless of the headcount drop in the last few years, all sides make very valid points. Internet and Ebay sales for parts, the reproduction parts market explosion, cost of simple things like food(bring your own), fuel, tolls, and the "been there done that perception" are all things that absolutely contributed to the downfall. But it always comes back to simply putting it on your calendar and showing up. Pay your $12 to come in, see old friends, buy a burger, watch some races, make new friends, open up to the new models of our hobby(LX), check out the SuperCars, and have a good time. Yes we remember how it used to be and it will never be a standing room only event. None of the heavy hitting events are. They are all not dead, but you can't honestly tell me that Carlisle wasn't thin, and Columbus wasn't thin. How can you not want to go to this event? The name Raceway Park alone is the top reason we go. Come under that tower when you're racing and there is nothing like it, thousands of feet of paved parking, beautiful grandstands, the sounds of racing, meeting up with your old friends, and putting a face to your keyboard friends. I'm sorry but I'll still attend no matter what because of those simple details. Many of us will still not agree, but all I know is myself a the gang of merry men that convoy with us, plan to go every year like has always been.

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THE TRACK IS WILLING TO LISTEN....IF IF IF IF...

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Have we really messed things up that badly? I don't think so.

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Show me where the actual numbers are. Did you go? I did and have been there for 9 years straight. Friday was a ghost town,

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What's the difference if you get the quoted numbers...you won't believe them anyway.

A ghost town? Really???

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I remember the days when the pit side was the pit side and the OTHER SIDE of the track was the swap& show.Enough memories from the old guy
Getting a guy like Vinny Nobile and a few other PRO STOCK mopars,coupla NITRO mopar cars be it a digger or Pro Mod would get a much better headcount in the stands.A few celebs like Linda and Pam could help.Scrap the go carts for a drifting show.A Manufaturers midway,does not have to be huge is also an attraction.I personally loved the Hemi shootout and was dissappointed when they reduced to the "A" cars and cut out the "B" & "C" wheels up racers.
The tax thing,well you also have to register as a seller and get a tax number of some sort at Carlisle,so that angle don't fly with me.
I also have been going since the 2nd annual and will continue to go even if I'm in a wheelchair.

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Hemi how about this to get the numbers up? Get your motor together and start running deep into the 9's. That would fill the stands I want to see those garbage dumpsters i.e. SV1 carbs in action.

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Sounds like a sponcership offer