What will it run? 440

Posted By: SLOW67

What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 05:25 PM

Just bought some parts to go with a 440 in my Valiant and I'm just wondering what I can expect ET wise. The build is going to be pretty simple .060 over 440, stock 906 heads, probably a 509 cam or a mild solid, old Tm-7 or some other single plane and a 850 holley. I may end up going with a glide but what ever trans I go with will have a 9.5in converter and I'll be running a 3.55 gear(all I have besides a 5.38) and a 28" tire. The car weighs 3100 with me and fuel with the smallblock. I want to run atleast 7.50's in the 1/8th

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 05:52 PM

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Just bought some parts to go with a 440 in my Valiant and I'm just wondering what I can expect ET wise. The build is going to be pretty simple .060 over 440, stock 906 heads, probably a 509 cam or a mild solid, old Tm-7 or some other single plane and a 850 holley. I may end up going with a glide but what ever trans I go with will have a 9.5in converter and I'll be running a 3.55 gear(all I have besides a 5.38) and a 28" tire. The car weighs 3100 with me and fuel with the smallblock. I want to run atleast 7.50's in the 1/8th

My 3450 lb. Duster with a sinmilar 440 ran low 12.s(12.01 to 12.13) in the 1/4 years ago on pump gas corked up

I don't remember the 1/8 mile times, sorry

Posted By: moparmxz

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 06:11 PM

7.90 or so with that gear.

Posted By: 71440dart

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 06:40 PM

right now my dart with a 30 over 440, 906 heads, .557 solid and a 9.5 inch 4500 converter with 3.90 gears and a 28 inch tall tires runs 7.28 8th and 11.43 in the quarter.i have no idea how much it weighs, it has full interior and i weigh about 180.

Posted By: W7_Scamp

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 06:51 PM

11.70's in the quarter if i had to take a stab at it

Posted By: BLONDE BARRACUDA

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 07:33 PM

I would guestimate 12.50 but hopefully better dont know what that translates in eighth mile

Posted By: joedust451

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 08:08 PM

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11.70's in the quarter if i had to take a stab at it

Thats about what i would say, I ran 6.9s/7.0s/10.90s/11.0s depending on the weather at 3100 race weight & 4.10 gears/28" slicks with a similar set-up, now it was a low-deck 451/stock 906s/XE284H/750dp/M1 single/9.73.1 comp./PTC 9.5" 4400 stall shifting at 5600.

Posted By: gch

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 08:14 PM

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Just bought some parts to go with a 440 in my Valiant and I'm just wondering what I can expect ET wise. The build is going to be pretty simple .060 over 440, stock 906 heads, probably a 509 cam or a mild solid, old Tm-7 or some other single plane and a 850 holley. I may end up going with a glide but what ever trans I go with will have a 9.5in converter and I'll be running a 3.55 gear(all I have besides a 5.38) and a 28" tire. The car weighs 3100 with me and fuel with the smallblock. I want to run atleast 7.50's in the 1/8th

Consider running an rpm intake or the Holley street dominator for a single plane.THe small solid may work better on the low end with the 3.55 gears.All that may be a moot point depending on your stall speed.

Posted By: fishy340

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 10:55 PM

low 12ish with that cam

Posted By: 68roadrunner

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 11:12 PM

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7.90 or so with that gear.

that will be real close, use the 5.38 and a 5000rpm stall and you will get close to a 7.50. 727 only

Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/01/11 11:45 PM

ive seen low 11s out of combo like that

Posted By: Sport440

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 12:02 AM

With a bone stock 440 and vert in that car it should run 12.50,s

With the 3.55 gear Id want around a 4000 stall vert and 10.0 comp. Id use either a RPM or SD single plane. With traction that could be good for 11.20,s or so.

My old 9.7 484 MP stock vert street combo @ 3320# ran 12.40,s @ 113 MPH with street tires. With slicks it ran 11.75.

Add in your 9.5 vert and less weight, even with the 3.55 gear you should do better then that, IMO

For reference, 7.65/1/8 = 12.00 --7.50/1/8 = 11.75

Posted By: HYPER8oSoNic

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 12:37 AM

3100 lbs + 440/stock heads/509' cam + 9.5" (4000 rpm) converter/3.55 gear = 7.65 range 1/8 mile

Posted By: moparmxz

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 12:48 AM

His post claimed 3100 with the small block,i would add at least 150 for the pig block.

Posted By: Sport440

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 02:35 AM

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His post claimed 3100 with the small block,i would add at least 150 for the pig block.

I saw that and tried to adjust my guestimates for it.

I also saw your numbers

What kind of combo do you have going on?

Posted By: SLOW67

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 03:56 AM

I'd be happy if I could get 7.80's out of it with the 3.55's. I plan on going to a 4.10 or 4.56 after I get the engine in the car and everything worked out....I don't want to spend all my money before then lol

Posted By: Torred

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 04:43 AM

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I'd be happy if I could get 7.80's out of it with the 3.55's. I plan on going to a 4.10 or 4.56 after I get the engine in the car and everything worked out....I don't want to spend all my money before then lol

You should get the 7.80 with the 3.55, maybe even a little better.

Posted By: 383man

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 04:59 AM

The build is almost identical to mine. I have a .030 906 headed 440 with the .557 solid cam and the Holley SD intake with an 850. My 63 weighs 3700 with me and I use a Dynamic 9.5 converter and 4.30's with 30" tall tires. 11.49 best and 7.28 best in the 1/8. I say you should hit 11.70's which is about 7.50's in the 1/8. Good luck , Ron

Posted By: joedust451

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 05:21 AM

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low 12ish with that cam

Your joking right?

Posted By: Evil67

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 06:36 AM

It has the potential to run 11.50s.....the rest is up to you!!!

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Posted By: Bigbeep

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 06:51 AM

I think it needs a little more gear and maybe a little better intake.

My brothers scamp has a mild 440, .030" cast piston, decked block, home ported 346 heads, 509 cam, team G intake, tci street fighter converter, 4.10 gear 26x8 m/t slicks
best et 11.48

Posted By: Evil67

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 07:00 AM

BIg Beep - that is the baddest pic on here!!! That ole Cuda leaves like a B____!!!!

Posted By: Bigbeep

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 07:11 AM

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BIg Beep - that is the baddest pic on here!!! That ole Cuda leaves like a B____!!!!

Thanks, I hope to get it back together soon. Cracked the block last fall and still deciding what to do. But Thank You. Beep

Posted By: B1KILLER

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 08:59 AM

U should go 11.75, the glide will take away from u with that
Small gear ur running , with my glide in my Valiant it
Worked best with 4.88's, but I was running a totally
Different set then U, good luck with it.

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 09:15 AM

That combo is absolutely begging for a plate system!!

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Posted By: B1KILLER

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 09:22 AM

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That combo is absolutely begging for a plate system!!

Posted By: Dart1031

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 01:01 PM

I might have the best car here to compare yours to. My Valiant with an aluminum head 360/727 and 8 3/4 weighed 2,940 without me. With an iron head 440/727 and Dana it weighs 3160 without me. The 8 3/4 had drums, the Dana has discs.

The 440 is a stock '78 short block with unported 906's milled to 80cc. It's got a .557 solid, M1 and a 950HP. I've had a Holley SD and a Torker II on it and there isn't much difference in ET on MY car. They were all within a tenth, all with the same 4 hole spacer. No mods done to any of them either. It runs the best shifting at 5,500. I tried all the way to 6,500 and it didn't make a difference. This certainly isn't the best combination of parts, but it was built years ago on a budget, lol.

It's got a 4500 stall converter, 4.10 gears and a 28" Hoosier QTP. It has gone a best of 11.49/7.20(not on the same pass). It seems to be better in the 8th than the quarter for what it is.

I've been told it would go quicker with a 509 cam. If you go that route, find an older used one that was broke in right. The new ones suck. I had one wipe out a lobe after only 8 miles on it!

Hope this helps some

Posted By: moparx

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 01:15 PM

wonder what this combo could do in a 2500# package ?

Posted By: SLOW67

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 02:47 PM

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That combo is absolutely begging for a plate system!!

I've got a 125 plate in the closet

All I need is a bottle

Posted By: 68DART360

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 03:10 PM

I ran a stock 1974 440 with 509 cam 1 3/4 headers torker intake with 750 holley vac secondary carb. In 3250 lb car ran 12.10 @112 with 4.10 gear 27" Hoosier QT's 727 with junk 3000 stall converter. Not an optimal combo but it worked just fine. Good luck tuning tuning tuning is key. After you settle on the combo find out what it likes carb, timing etc.

Posted By: joedust451

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 09:01 PM

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That combo is absolutely begging for a plate system!!

I've got a 125 plate in the closet All I need is a bottle

Getcha a bottle & drop it on, there will be no more second guessing if it'll run 7.8s in the 1/8

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 09:48 PM

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I'd be happy if I could get 7.80's out of it with the 3.55's. I plan on going to a 4.10 or 4.56 after I get the engine in the car and everything worked out....I don't want to spend all my money before then lol

I think it'll go a 7.90 in the 1/8... the trans and
gear will kill the 60'.......... JMO

Posted By: SLOW67

Re: What will it run? 440 - 04/02/11 10:32 PM

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I'd be happy if I could get 7.80's out of it with the 3.55's. I plan on going to a 4.10 or 4.56 after I get the engine in the car and everything worked out....I don't want to spend all my money before then lol

I think it'll go a 7.90 in the 1/8... the trans and
gear will kill the 60'.......... JMO

I'm probably going to stick with the 727 for awhile, I don't want to track down another BB ultra bell after trading mine for a SB one...again