I've Got A Bit Of A Dilemma

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I like the idea of moving the front wheels forward; it'd look better aesthetically, and give you some room.

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I'd really like to keep it stock looking but if I need
to move them I will

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Yikes! I was thinking just a couple inches, centering the wheel/tire in the fender. Might be able to just move the front of the opening, depending on OD of the tire you run, and most people would likely not even notice, but the proportions would be better than the long stock overhang.

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I dont think I'll have to move the tire forward IF
I move the engine back the 1 1/4", make longer steering
arms(which it could use anyways) and cutting the
tie rod and putting a cover over it(I might not need
to cut the tie rod ... I leave that as my last choice)...
after I pick up my new hood tomorrow I'll take some
measurements

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With my steering on my Rampage... with the engine in
where I have it and the steering rack just clearing
the crank pulley the rod ends will have a big angle...
not a big deal on a drag car but on a street car the
two wheels turn at a different rate in a corner... I
still need to put the proper wheel and tire on it to
see if I can make a longer steering arm... which will
help with slowing the steering rate and the turn radius...
I can move the engine back 1" more which will help...
I know how to get around this problem BUT it would
look BAD... I can cut the tie rods and set them parallel
them then weld a spacer in between.... but damn that
would look UGLY and I'm sure people would say...
what the heck did you do that for..... DAMN I dont
know what to do..... gotta think

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I look at it this way...

As long as you have a legitimate answer for the "what the heck did you do that for", there was no alternative, and it's a sound way of doing it, don't worry about it. If you can live with it and it works, it is what it is. Custom building...fun stuff!

With custom stuff, there are no rules. You make them up as you go along.

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You can usually angle the rods 3" from the steering centerline

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I never heard that Bob... I'm sure that we would all
love to have that angle from the steering arm to the
rack at 90* and the farther off that angle it hurts
more... plus the distance between the rack and the
steering arm makes a big difference when you say that
3" number(10" vs 20") would more than double the
angle with the 3" stager

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fLAMING RIVER makes different length racks. In my case I needed a longer one for my Roda Runner that the Pinto unit that was in it.As for making longer tie rod can't you use a Heim end to replace
what you have now and make that longer by using a fresh piece of tubing threaded to accept the Heim?

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Its not the length of the rack its the location of
it fore and aft in the car... I'd like to move it
rearward in my chassis so the end of the steering arm
is straight across from the rack centerline... once
I get my wheels and tires back I set it up and take
a pic

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Mike not to sound dumb,but can't you put the rack under the frame?

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No... that would put the inner tie rod to low... as
the wheel goes up it would pull more toe in and it goes
down it would go toe out... you want the inner rod
end at the same height as the outer and the rod to
be the same length as the lower control arms(which
that part is fine)

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I would not exceed the 3" angle I mentioned,but you may be able to lower the r/p move it back and use spacers between the steering arm and tierod ends,that's what I have done on Lonnie's car and others when I had to work with previous work that was done.You may also add length to the steering arms to extend them forward.

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I plan on making new steering arms... which should
make up about half of what I want... then I think
I'll angle it some and cut the tie rod and stager it
and weld it with a boot on it.
If I put the rack back between the damper and the
sump it would be behind the centerline of the spindle
and I would have to change racks... I'll stick with
this idea

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I don't have any input but I'm glad this question came up because it was concerning me about my rack placement on an up coming K member build

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Its actually pretty simple... have the inner tie rod
and the inner lower arm at the same pivot point...
then the outer tie rod ends level with the rack...
then you would like to have the rack and steering
arm at 90*.... simple.... if nothing gets in the way

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Got another idea today... my buddy and I were talking
then came up with the idea of a drag link between
the 2 steering arms and then tie the rack arms to it...
gotta look at that idea... but I like it

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Got another idea today... my buddy and I were talking
then came up with the idea of a drag link between
the 2 steering arms and then tie the rack arms to it...
gotta look at that idea... but I like it

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