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Cost of E-85 By The Drum?

Posted By: Cuda_Mike

Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/03/11 03:18 PM

What's the cost of E-85 from a race fuel supplier?
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/03/11 03:24 PM

Well there are only 2 people I know of that we can get it from around Indiana

Rockett Brand
Ignite Fuels

Ignite is actually owned by the same guy who owns the ethanol plant in Marion Indiana

Ignite has a few different octane levels of fuel, its really new stuff and I have no experience with it, as I just found the stuff.

There stuff in drum form was between 3.50 and 4.50 a gallon depending what you wanted.

My question to you would be, why not get it out of the pump? I bought all my e85 for my duster from Gas America last year, never below 84% sometimes 88%, and they mix there own and you can call they Gas America Corporate office to get the mix.
Posted By: Cuda_Mike

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/03/11 03:56 PM

Josh, I just wondered what the cost would be in case the government stops subsidizing the cost at the pump. As long as it's as cheap as it is I would by it at the pump, filling my own drums so I'd have the same fuel all season. Thanks for the info.
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/03/11 07:13 PM

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Josh, I just wondered what the cost would be in case the government stops subsidizing the cost at the pump.


Just to be clear, the govt isn't subsidizing ethanol. What they do currently offer is a tax credit to the fuel blender (not the ethanol producer). This tax credit offsets the govt fuel excise tax.

As I recall it is about $0.41-$0.45 per gallon of ethanol blended into motor fuel. So the pump price isn't going to change much if the blender tax credit goes away. The last time I checked, the wholesale price of fuel ethanol was about $0.40/gallon cheaper than the wholesale price of unleaded regular gasoline.

When blended to make 10% ethanol pump gas, the blender credit typically goes to the oil company that does the blending. Some E85 is made by oil companies, some by independants. The vast majority of fuel ethanol in the US goes into E10 pump gasoline, not E85.

Where you are in Indiana, E85 is about $0.59 less than 87 octane gasoline. $2.89 vs $3.48
Not to mention the spread to 93 octane...
http://e85prices.com/
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/03/11 07:58 PM

I was loving it when it was only $2.19 here for years. Now it jumps up. It never really changed before when the other fuel prices went up. Must be more demand now????
Posted By: dOc …

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/03/11 08:36 PM

I can not IMAGINE it being cheaper AND FRESHER ... than at-the-pump at a regular gas station.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 12:31 AM

I don't know about E-85 but have been told by many,never buy Race gas out of a pump. Was told always buy a drum and keep it sealed tight.
Posted By: dOc …

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 12:37 AM

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never buy Race gas out of a pump. Was told always buy a drum and keep it sealed tight.




SAME HERE ... because it is NOT fresh. There was a station in Dearborn that was selling it some years back ... it was like 8 months old sometimes.
Posted By: GO_Fish

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 02:27 AM

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never buy Race gas out of a pump. Was told always buy a drum and keep it sealed tight.




SAME HERE ... because it is NOT fresh. There was a station in Dearborn that was selling it some years back ... it was like 8 months old sometimes.




E-10 deteriorates by 3 months old, and by 6 months it is causing problems. I'd imagine E-85 has an even shorter shelf life??
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 03:00 AM

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never buy Race gas out of a pump. Was told always buy a drum and keep it sealed tight.




SAME HERE ... because it is NOT fresh. There was a station in Dearborn that was selling it some years back ... it was like 8 months old sometimes.




E-10 deteriorates by 3 months old, and by 6 months it is causing problems. I'd imagine E-85 has an even shorter shelf life??




Only if its left to the air... in a sealed steel drum
it last a LONG time.... I buy it from Meijer because
they go through a lot of it... I check the content
before I fill my drums
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 02:53 PM

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never buy Race gas out of a pump. Was told always buy a drum and keep it sealed tight.




SAME HERE ... because it is NOT fresh. There was a station in Dearborn that was selling it some years back ... it was like 8 months old sometimes.




E-10 deteriorates by 3 months old, and by 6 months it is causing problems. I'd imagine E-85 has an even shorter shelf life??




Only if its left to the air... in a sealed steel drum
it last a LONG time.... I buy it from Meijer because
they go through a lot of it... I check the content
before I fill my drums





Mike where do you get the equipment to check it yourself ?
Posted By: cudadon

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 04:15 PM

John quickfuel sells a single tube kit you can use. Or find a scientific supply, or I think Mark Sullens sells the 100cc tubes give him a call.573-694-4088 marksullense85carb.com.

By the way Darren Tedder found that the component that evaporates from E 85 is gasoline, so the ethanol content gets higher.
Don

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Posted By: Cuda_Mike

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 04:39 PM

Jegs sells the QuickFuel tester too.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Cost of E-85 By The Drum? - 03/04/11 05:12 PM

Thanks guys .
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