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What are our options?

Posted By: W9 Dart

What are our options? - 01/04/11 05:38 PM

I have been in the market for a new K frame for quite some time. After visiting several forums getting in debates about whats right and whats wrong who's is best etc..These are a few competitors on the block. If you where in market for a K frame which of these two would you prefer and why?

Here are a few that are our options:

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238442

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post6377969

http://www.magnumforceracing.com/store/d...arch=&Page=

Jason
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 05:44 PM

What's the intended use of the car ? a street only car , a street/track car and a track only car will net you different responses .
Posted By: W9 Dart

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 05:49 PM

I will use it for Street/ Strip 30/70.... nothing long distance.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 07:38 PM

What year and make car, A,B,E or C body ? I have a aftermarket tubular stock replacement K member for a early(pre 1967) A body that weighs one pound lighter than the stock K member . I'm going to send it back to have it modified to a front rack and remove the stock steering box mounts and stock engine mounts,( I'm using a front motor plate for a BB) remove the torsion bars and so on. I'm hoping those changes will lighten it up some
Posted By: W9 Dart

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 08:00 PM

It's for my 68 Dart.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 09:49 PM

Look at CAP or RMS, or contact Bondo Bob for your car I'm switching my 1965 dart to coil overs with front rack and pinion steering for header clearnaces for the BB, not the weight savings. I do have a Strange Engineering front disc brake conversion kit for the car using the stock nine inch spindles so some weight will come of of the brakes, not sure how much I bought the Strange kit for the stopping power
Posted By: W9 Dart

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 10:19 PM

I have talked to them already... but I want to know more about the products I posted in the 1st post. What are your thoughts on them?

Jason
Posted By: sdaurity

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 10:33 PM

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I have talked to them already... but I want to know more about the products I posted in the 1st post. What are your thoughts on them?

Jason






I would stay away from the magnum force stuff. The Overkill race cars stuff looks awesome. I would not hesitate to order by the looks of it. If I had the cash one from overkill would be headed my way.
Posted By: fishy340

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 10:46 PM

look at the youtube vid on my sig,that's how my RMS performed at the 1st test/tune..did no adjustments other then follow the directions BILL GIVES u in the package..only thing that was done was a wheel aligh from my friend BIG DRE!
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 10:54 PM

What happened????

I thought you and Tory were buddies?? It seemed like you were dead set on buying his setup and it was gods gift to K frames
Posted By: Scotts71chall

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 11:43 PM

Why stay away from magnum force?
Posted By: bigtimeauto

Re: What are our options? - 01/04/11 11:46 PM

I have a extra alterkation, 2500.00 and your stock one.
Posted By: sdaurity

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 12:15 AM

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Why stay away from magnum force?




Its just junk, is cracked, drives bad, just not very nice. I'm sure others will respond about them too.
Posted By: tubtar

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 01:33 AM

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I have a extra alterkation, 2500.00 and your stock one.




If this has all the candy , it is a screaming deal.
I spoke with Bill when I got mine and we " negotiated " a decent discount and it was more than this.
I liked the RMS piece because it came with everything , and had options available re; sway bar , motor mounts , shocks , brakes so you could tailor it to any potential use.
Everything I read was positive and once I got it , I knew it was the good stuff.
Posted By: W9 Dart

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 01:37 AM

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What happened????

I thought you and Tory were buddies?? It seemed like you were dead set on buying his setup and it was gods gift to K frames




I still am "buddies" with Tory. I also would like to know what your opinions are on the listed K frames. It just seems there are so many options out there it's hard to decide on one. I know a lot about Tory's K frame but don't know much about the other two. They all look pretty identical to me. You guys had quite a bit of knowledge on K frames so I was just asking.

Jason
Posted By: Sport440

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 01:59 AM

Awbdart, that vid was great!! That RMS performed perfect. The vid of the steering wheel on the run says alot!


W9/Jason of the 3 K Frames you listed, Id say None of the above.

The first one, has never been tested or seen any track or road time yet. As stated by the builder.

The second one, with the builders lack of response in his thread, before the sale. Scratch that one.

The third one, Ive heard nothing but bad stories about. Like breaking by just doing burnouts in a Burger King parking lot.


As far as some other proven options, RMS, Altercation, Bobs ProFab, Or just lighten and refab the stock one. mike
Posted By: LA360

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 02:06 AM

I haven't heard a good thing about the Magnum force kits, but they were the first of their kind and many others have made their own kits. The other two look to be well built kits as far as fabrication goes, although I don't like the look of the steering arms and ball joints in the overkill product. It's something that will change no doubt as he is in the early stages of development. Bob's front end seems to be a proven product, whereas the Overkill and Tory's product are new kids on the block so to speak. That's not a bad thing if you're prepared to work with either guy to help make any improvements if necessary.

Aesthetics do play a big part for most of us, some may prefer a completely tubular K-Frame (myself included), some may just want a product that works.

Either way, hats off to all of those who produce these front end kits as they would consume a bunch of time for what can be at times, very little reward.
Posted By: fishy340

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 02:12 AM

why thankyou mr440,i have nothing to gain by touting the rms,i just like to give props where it is do,and also support local mopar dudes!
Posted By: Sport440

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 02:22 AM

Allan, I was going to mention the steering arms too on the Overkill K frame. No doubt they will most likely be changed out as you state. Everything looked great until I saw those. Mike
Posted By: 72demon416

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 02:39 AM

Andy, is your steering column loose in that vid?
Posted By: W9 Dart

Re: What are our options? - 01/05/11 03:09 AM

Thats good information fellas. So we can all agree that the magna force unit is not in the running of a quality product correct? I know the Overkill guy has a pretty good reputation in the yellowbullet community. How does his product fair in your eyes verses Bobs or Tory's? By just looking at pictures of the three..

JAson
Posted By: Get-X

Re: What are our options? - 01/06/11 01:29 AM

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Thats good information fellas. So we can all agree that the magna force unit is not in the running of a quality product correct? I know the Overkill guy has a pretty good reputation in the yellowbullet community. How does his product fair in your eyes verses Bobs or Tory's? By just looking at pictures of the three..

JAson




In my eyes, the Overkill's fab work appears to be great. Whether or not it actually works is another story as in his own words it's untested. Another thing to look in to is his steering arms, not too sure I like what he has going on there. All in all, if I knew it worked I'd definately consider it for my own car for what he's charging and what looks to be very high quality fab work.

Bob's stuff is top notch period. Bob's system also has been track tested, comes with Afco coil overs, can use two different ball joints (your choice standard or trick lightweight) and has kick a$$ billet steering arms. Bob's also comes with a very nice powder coated finish. Bob's system is not cheap, but you are definately getting what you paid for IMO.
Posted By: Sport440

Re: What are our options? - 01/06/11 02:31 AM

Get-X Overkills fab work does look great.

I revisited the site and noticed he doesnt include the steering arm/ball joint on the grocery list of parts thats supplied with his kit. The one he shows is just for display.

On one of his posts he states he will adapt the end to fit what ever ball joint/steering arm you intend to use.


So that will leave the end user to make adjustments for bump steer and ackerman. Witch wont make this K frame user friendly for the average Joe. mike
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