Posted By: Charger453
Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/16/10 04:01 AM
I have an 8 3/4 in my 70 Charger with Moser axles with green bearings. Is this the correct kit? They say to measure the axle offset, but that's a little difficult right now.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WIL-140-5591-B/http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitListRear.aspx?appl=&flange=Mopar/Dana&axleoffset=Thanks!
Posted By: Charger453
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 04:04 AM
Anybody have a clue? The bearings on my axles are the snap ring green bearings. I'd measure, but the car isn't accessible. I want to take advantage of the Summit code that ends tonight.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 04:14 AM
Just buy the Strange rear brake kit and be done with it.
The Wilwoods suck compare to the Strange and Wilwoods customer service is the worst. NEVER AGAIN would I buy anything from Wilwood.
Posted By: Charger453
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 04:17 AM
I was just looking to match since I have Wilwoods up front ... not that it matters.
Posted By: sg66mopar
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 08:35 AM
The "correct" Wilwood kit is made by Mark Williams or Strange, if you get my drift.
Posted By: sg66mopar
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 05:59 PM
I have Wilwoods on the front of my car and MW on the back. After working on the Wilwoods for a few years I've finally gotten them to work, more or less. Just a lot of little problems that, in my opinion, make them less than desirable.
Now that they mostly work, the biggest issue is the pads wear on a taper from top to bottom. That means the pedal starts going away because the pads push the pistons back into the caliper. I've only been getting around 75 - 100 passes before the pads need attention. My Mark Williams pads have around 200 passes now and look almost new. No taper at all.
I'm actually on my second set of Wilwoods because the first set self destructed in about 10 passes. That was back when I was only running about 130.
I ended up needing to change to a different style rotor than the ones they originally recommended. From day 1 I've had to fight to get tham bled.
Just my (and a few of my friends) experience. Lots of other people have been happy with them. They are definately cheaper.
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 06:32 PM
Ill go on to say probably 90% of these problems are self inflicted
Posted By: DoctorDiff
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 06:41 PM
I'm not an authority on all Wilwood Mopar rear brakes, but unless you are running a spool, or a modified differential, the parking brake version requires a 5 hole shim (which is not mentioned in the instructions or even available from Wilwood) between the brake backing plate and housing end. If this shim isn't installed, the Green wheel bearings will be destroyed by excessive preloading of the axles on the differential thrust block.
The backing plate also doubles as a wheel bearing retainer. In order to remove the axle, the whole brake kit must also be pulled.
I get blamed all the time for "making axles too long" or "selling defective wheel bearings" because of Wilwood's design problems. Of course, when questioned, Wilwood Tech denies responsibility. Strange and Dutchman also mention the same problems with Wilwood.
Posted By: DoctorDiff
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 06:56 PM
The OP is asking about Wilwood Mopar kits equipped with emergency brakes.
Posted By: DoctorDiff
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/18/10 07:15 PM
BTW, all '65 and newer Mopars equipped with 5 x 4 1/2" bolt pattern use a 2.525" brake gap/offset when measured from the housing end. This is the conventional method of measuring axle flange stand-out.
If you measure from the OUTSIDE of the brake backing plate or from the snap ring on the green wheel bearing, the dimension is 2.4".
Posted By: snook
Re: Help with correct rear Wilwood kit - 12/19/10 12:11 AM