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Early '70s SS/DA Cuda

Posted By: nz383man

Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/08/10 11:23 AM

I'm building a big inch dual plug Hemi for my street/strip '70 Barracuda & I wanted to make it look like an early '70s SS/DA Cuda with some of the period bits like Keystone Klassic wheels, paint job, decals etc

I don't want to cut the body at all, just SS springs on offset hangers with the biggest tires I can fit without tubs, but open to suggestions.

There are quite a few pics on the net of the outside of this type of car but very few of the engine bay & inside the cars, if anyone has any could they please post them.

Also has anyone got a set of SS/DA rules from the early '70s that they could post to give me some ideas. The car would only be raced in street/muscle car races in New Zealand so would not have to comply exactly to any class.

Any other info or pics would be great, Cheers
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/08/10 11:32 AM

Mine wasn't SS/DA, but I loved the old paint that was on it when it raced back then...

One of the SS/DA cars I saw for sale about 4 years back looked just like a stock shacker hood Cuda with a real nice stance and racing wheels and a cage. Literally, there wasn't almost anything that let you know it was capable of the et it was except the cage.

Anyways, here's pics of mine back in the day.

Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/08/10 12:00 PM

Hey Dragula, cheers for the pic
What class did your car run & how fast?
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/08/10 01:31 PM

My 71 hemi Challenger was an original SS/D car. Ran best 10.30's. Was a pretty "mild" build actually. Racer Brown solid. Unported heads. Modded Rat Roaster with competition series Carters. 12.5 pistons. Stock crank and rods. Unmodified hemi box with Super Shifter. 4.88 gears.

It's an original hemi car, so fortunately nothing was cut up. put back to stock now.

MB

pic of the car in '74 at etown.

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Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/08/10 01:33 PM

and today. only 2800 orig. miles and never leaves the garage.

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/08/10 07:28 PM

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and today. only 2800 orig. miles and never leaves the garage.




Wow, thats very impressive, a real Hemi car that was thrashed on the strip 40 years ago but survived to be a low milage stocker.

I had found a couple of pics of your car on the net but didn't know what it looks like now until you posted the pic above.

Was it ever tubbed?
What size tires did you run?

My car is only a factory 383 Barracuda so as long as I dont cut it up, twist it or bend it, it wont loose much value so I intend driving the car on runs, drags & just getting it out & having fun even at US$5.70 a gallon for gas in NZ.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/08/10 08:21 PM

Life is short Mike. Go for a ride
Posted By: Cloned_Cuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/09/10 04:01 AM

The only picture I have.

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/09/10 06:55 AM

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Life is short Mike. Go for a ride




Yep, I too would give my left nut for a factory Hemi car but I'd probably have to treat it a bit better & that would mean I'd miss out on some of the fun things I do now like -

Grasskanas



Streed Drags



The odd Smokey, or two!



Power Cruise, in the rain!



As you can see, I have a ball in my old 383 car so I cant wait to get the dual plug 604 Hemi in it with a solid roller cam, dual quads etc, I think it will be a bunch more fun yet!
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 10:35 AM

Here are a few pics of cars that inspire me, they are not all SS/DA but they all have something special

























Posted By: magnumcharger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 03:16 PM

John Petrie's Cudas...engine shot is his 1970 Challenger.

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Posted By: magnumcharger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 03:16 PM

1971 Barracuda.

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Posted By: magnumcharger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 03:17 PM

More 1971 Petrie Cuda.

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Posted By: magnumcharger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 03:18 PM

Another shot.

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Posted By: magnumcharger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 03:19 PM

More good pictures...

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 06:38 PM

Great pics magnumcharger, Cheers
Posted By: hemicop

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 06:42 PM

If it were me, I'd get ahold of whoever owns the Ramchargers SS/DA car & copy it! I saw it at Auction at Barrett-Jackson a few years ago & I've never seen a cleaner, more put together car. There were a few old P/Ss at auction that day too & none of them could compare to that car..
Posted By: Ray440

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/10 07:00 PM

Here's a link to an ad listing a 70 Cuda SS/DA car. The "SunKissed Cuda". A lot of good pics here. Mods I aploigize if this is a no-no.

http://www.autabuy.com/Gallery/?ID=49252...0HEMI%20CUDA%20
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 01:38 AM

I don't think there were ever any better looking drag cars. The stuff today isn't cool at all compared to these cars.

Sheldon
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 01:41 AM

Roger England

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 01:43 AM

Sean Dorman, still running today!!!!

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Posted By: Dr-Dave2

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 03:42 AM

The Super Stock & Drag Illistrated magazine contest give-away car

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Posted By: Dragula

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 04:11 AM



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Posted By: grncpe

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 04:21 AM

like This!

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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 04:22 AM



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Posted By: Dragula

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 04:26 AM



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Posted By: Locomotion

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 04:28 AM



This car belonged to Stan Mizell of Jacksonville, FL who also ran Stock and later Pro Stock, as well as Ronnie Robinson who use to own a Dodge dealership in Green Cove Springs, FL and still has a shop there.
Posted By: Ari440

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 04:28 AM

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what color blue would that be ?

b3 ?
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 08:18 AM

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Here's a link to an ad listing a 70 Cuda SS/DA car. The "SunKissed Cuda". A lot of good pics here. Mods I aploigize if this is a no-no.

http://www.autabuy.com/Gallery/?ID=49252...0HEMI%20CUDA%20




Cheers Ray, they are great photos

As my car is not a factory Hemi car I think I might try to go a bit more radical with the paint/decals.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 09:40 AM

More SS, Funny cars etc
I love the early '70s style cars



















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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 09:48 AM

and more



















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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 10:09 AM

and more



















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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/10 10:40 AM

and more













Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/15/10 08:37 AM



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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/15/10 12:03 PM

My dual plug Mopar heads were used in this car



They were originally run with twin plugs in a Volare that ran 8.0 @ 160 but later they plugged one set of holes & ran single plugs (with no noticable loss of power!)

Loren Zeedyk of Dragway Automotive (& Zeeker) did a lot of work developing some of the first Indy heads (wedge I think) with Russ from Indy. Loren also used the Volare as a test mule with Joe Liberty in the development of the Liberty 4 speed & I now own the heads that were on the Volare at the time & intend to put them to good use in my SS/DA style car.
Posted By: 10secGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/15/10 04:45 PM

Quote:

Mine wasn't SS/DA, but I loved the old paint that was on it when it raced back then...

One of the SS/DA cars I saw for sale about 4 years back looked just like a stock shacker hood Cuda with a real nice stance and racing wheels and a cage. Literally, there wasn't almost anything that let you know it was capable of the et it was except the cage.

Anyways, here's pics of mine back in the day.






Dragula did you live in Cleveland ? I think I remember that car, Was it Tom Fishers old car ?
Posted By: JCCuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/15/10 06:26 PM

I've often thought about making my Cuda into a SS/J (i think J) with a 383 and a 4 speed then reality hit's and I realize I don't have the two most important ingredients. Time and Money. But it resemble's a super stocker so I got that goin for me.

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/16/10 10:11 AM

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I've often thought about making my Cuda into a SS/J (i think J) with a 383 and a 4 speed then reality hit's and I realize I don't have the two most important ingredients. Time and Money. But it resemble's a super stocker so I got that goin for me.




Looks graet as it is JCCuda,
What size tires are you runnung & what mods have you made to fit them?
Posted By: The Cuda Guy

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/16/10 12:30 PM

Great thread.

Don
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/16/10 01:19 PM

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Mine wasn't SS/DA, but I loved the old paint that was on it when it raced back then...

One of the SS/DA cars I saw for sale about 4 years back looked just like a stock shacker hood Cuda with a real nice stance and racing wheels and a cage. Literally, there wasn't almost anything that let you know it was capable of the et it was except the cage.

Anyways, here's pics of mine back in the day.



Dragula did you live in Cleveland ? I think I remember that car, Was it Tom Fishers old car ?




The car is from Ohio.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/17/10 10:39 AM

Here are some pics of the Sun Kissed Cuda





























Posted By: SG duster

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/17/10 11:01 AM

nz383 you should a hold of a member here called rebel, he raced a real top notch 71 cuda at meremere for years, not a hemi car but it sure went like one
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/17/10 11:28 AM

Cheers SGduster, I have emailed & PMed Paul on the NZ forums & you do see him on here quite often so he might add to this thread but until then here are a couple of pics of his Cuda.



Posted By: racerx

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/17/10 11:13 PM

Nice cuda pic's
Posted By: The Cuda Guy

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/17/10 11:37 PM

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Are those wheels and tires under the factor tubes or no?

Don
Posted By: Kudakidd

SS/DA - 12/19/10 03:13 AM

NZ383man, what can I say?
Posted By: nz383man

Re: SS/DA - 12/19/10 07:23 PM

I talked to a local signwriter last week & all the old gold flake & mirror silver type materials are still available for decals & lettering so I'm stoked!

Thinks are going a bit slow with buying parts though with Christmas, weddings (not mine!) BBQs etc but I'll keep up with the pics when I can.

























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Re: SS/DA - 12/21/10 09:07 AM

A local Kiwi 604ci Hemi Cuda



Posted By: nz383man

Re: SS/DA - 12/21/10 09:18 AM

Early AHRA Rule book, I would love to see the whole book though!



Posted By: nz383man

Re: SS/DA - 12/21/10 11:16 AM

I know I'm getting a bit side tracked with Funny cars & Pro stock etc but hey , they all look great & many have ideas that could easily be used on a Hemi powered E-Body!





















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Posted By: lowbudget

Re: SS/DA - 12/21/10 06:46 PM

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A local Kiwi 604ci Hemi Cuda








Man thats nice looking, can you tell us anymore about it?
Posted By: nz383man

Re: SS/DA - 12/21/10 06:56 PM

Yep, no worries just follow this link & you will find plenty of info & pics

http://www.v8.co.nz/articles/10-litre-street-eater-1973-plymouth-barracuda-02
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Posted By: nz383man

Re: SS/DA - 12/24/10 10:14 PM

Like I've said earlier I'm going to use some old Mopar dual plug heads so to keep with the theme I have decided to use a 90 degree dual dizzy rather than the newer side by side deals that are useed today.

















Posted By: Dads426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/24/10 11:21 PM

I took this back in the 70's at 75-80. I believe the car is still around.

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Posted By: mikeg

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/24/10 11:40 PM

one out of Minnesota, Dale Bloomberg

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/25/10 12:46 AM

Great pics, thanks Guys
Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/25/10 03:29 AM

70's

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Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/25/10 03:31 AM

70 SS/DA
I used to run one of those deep pans until the shallower ones came out.

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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/25/10 03:34 AM

Another 70 SSD

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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/25/10 03:36 AM

Love this one

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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/25/10 03:56 AM

In 70 they had to have full interiors

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/25/10 08:36 AM

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In 70 they had to have full interiors




That's quite handy for me as I want to be able to use my car on the street but I think it dates the cars apart from the cars of today and that's what I want.
Posted By: 6440nssa

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/05/11 02:22 AM

pic. of my car.

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Posted By: sleepyhead416

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/05/11 03:56 PM

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and today. only 2800 orig. miles and never leaves the garage.


Same here ex SS/DA 17,000 never leaves garage.

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Posted By: dc426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/05/11 05:01 PM

Here's one that I owned for a short period. 1971 original 440-6 4 spd, dana car. Ran a hemi in SS/DA in NHRA Div. 2. Formerly know as "HEMI TYM">


Posted By: KillerBee

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/05/11 05:19 PM

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Here's one that I owned for a short period. 1971 original 440-6 4 spd, dana car. Ran a hemi in SS/DA in NHRA Div. 2. Formerly know as "HEMI TYM">







That is one of the cars I regret NOT buying when it was for sale!
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/05/11 05:20 PM

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and today. only 2800 orig. miles and never leaves the garage.


Same here ex SS/DA 17,000 never leaves garage.




WOW.

Real black 71 Hemi?? Tell me more and do you have any more pics???

Bad azz!

MB
Posted By: sleepyhead416

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/05/11 05:31 PM

1970
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/05/11 05:34 PM

Yes, I see that now. Too cool!

MB
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/07/11 10:31 AM

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Here's one that I owned for a short period. 1971 original 440-6 4 spd, dana car. Ran a hemi in SS/DA in NHRA Div. 2. Formerly know as "HEMI TYM">







Great pics, thanks Do you have any engine or interior shots? & what year did you run this car? Cheers
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/07/11 10:33 AM

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and today. only 2800 orig. miles and never leaves the garage.


Same here ex SS/DA 17,000 never leaves garage.




Any pics of the car in race trim? Thanks for posting
Posted By: dc426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/07/11 12:18 PM

I personally never ran the car. The people that owned it before me and raced in in NHRA Div. 2 live in Panama City Fl. The pictures of it when it was white was after it had been retired as a SS car. The orange pic is the original color.



Posted By: dc426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/07/11 12:24 PM

the day bought it and brought it home.


Posted By: KillerBee

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/07/11 03:38 PM

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the day bought it and brought it home.







Did the car get restored?
I'm going to make my 71 R/T Challenger look similar with a little less rear tire.

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Posted By: dc426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/07/11 04:28 PM

It went to Canada and from what I understand it remains unchanged.
Posted By: KillerBee

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/07/11 04:49 PM

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It went to Canada and from what I understand it remains unchanged.




PM sent.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/08/11 11:53 AM





Did the car get restored?
I'm going to make my 71 R/T Challenger look similar with a little less rear tire.




What size tyre can an E-Body take without tubbing?

I run 275 50 15 Hoosiers now buy when I change the car to a Hemi SS/BA style car I want to go way bigger in the diameter & as wide as I can go wthout tubbing the car.
I'm happy to use a spring relocating kit to get some extra tyre width if you guys think the bent hangers/shackles are safe, Cheers
Posted By: KillerBee

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/08/11 06:48 PM

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Did the car get restored?
I'm going to make my 71 R/T Challenger look similar with a little less rear tire.




What size tyre can an E-Body take without tubbing?

I run 275 50 15 Hoosiers now buy when I change the car to a Hemi SS/BA style car I want to go way bigger in the diameter & as wide as I can go wthout tubbing the car.
I'm happy to use a spring relocating kit to get some extra tyre width if you guys think the bent hangers/shackles are safe, Cheers



I currently have 28x12.50's on my stock Challenger with no rubbing issues.
Installing a B body width rear end with Dr. Diff's offset hangers will get you a few inches with minimal effort....others just experiment.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post6382161

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/08/11 09:17 PM

That's a good helpful link, Cheers
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/09/11 09:36 AM

OK, so it's about time I posted more pics











Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/09/11 09:43 AM

and a few more . . . .















Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/09/11 12:05 PM

I had a great day today, between mowing the lawns & other chores I had a couple of car guys come round to chew the fat & checkout my progress so I had the chance to open all the boxes that contain my Hemi parts & show them off.
I no sooner had them packed away again when another mate came round to visit with a bag full of DVD's & books on Super Stock & other drag cars so out came all the Hemi parts for the second time of the day before my neighbour arrived with a load of beer that needed dealt to.

We had a great Sunday afternoon talking cars & drinking beer but it all had to end as our Christmas/New Year break is over now & we have to go back to work for another year in less than 8 hours


Oh well we can't win them all so here are a few more pics that have inspired me.









Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/09/11 04:44 PM

Dragula,
This looks to be your Barracuda from years past. No shaker but the paint is basicly the same with a few updates. This pic was taken from an old Norwalk Program - can't find it now though. What do you think?

Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

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Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/09/11 04:49 PM

Here is the old Tom Fisher Barracuda - could be the same car with different paint but I think that this might be a different car - anyone know?

Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

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Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/09/11 06:54 PM

That is the same car with different paint job, Tom Fisher bought the car from Trippi Kling Performance in the 70's and then sold to Hemi Dave, then was sold to Darwin Oliver who passed away. I believe the car was then sold by his dad. Thanks / Gary
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/12/11 10:54 AM

I think Keystone Klassics are the way to go on my car
15 x 6 on the front with Mickey Thompson Sportsman Front Tires

6.7'' Tread Width
Ply Rating: 4
Tire Overall Diameter: 27''
Tire Tread Width: 6.7''
Tire Section Width: 8.3''
Wheel Diameter: 15''
Approved Wheel Width: 4.5'' - 6'' - 7.5''
Tire Weight: 22.0 lbs

and 15 x 10 on the rear with Mickey Thompson Sportsman PRO Rear Tires

10.0'' Tread Width
Tire Overall Diameter: 29.0''
Tire Tread Width: 10.0''
Tire Section Width: 13.0''
Wheel Diameter: 15''
Spec Wheel Width: 8'' - 10'' - 11''
Tire Weight: 27.0 lbs

Any comments?











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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/12/11 12:05 PM

Larry Smith

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Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/12/11 01:19 PM

This is a picture of mine ss/da

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/12/11 07:35 PM

Thanks Larry & Gary, they are both great looking cars

Any more pics or info on them would be Great, Cheers
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/12/11 07:38 PM

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Thanks Larry & Garry, they are both great looking cars


Gary can also tell a great story about getting the car and the hood. Great guy!!
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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/14/11 03:40 PM

Tommy Myl

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 01:54 AM

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Tommy Myl




Yep, thats a great looking Cuda, Great stance, Great choice of wheel/tyre size etc & it has quite a few details I want to incorporate into my build.
Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 04:36 AM

nice SS/DA little whelie

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 07:37 AM

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nice SS/DA little whelie


Mike Bogina, he is a member on here. The car is now Blue with a ton of history!!
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 08:53 AM

Quote:

Quote:

nice SS/DA little whelie


Mike Bogina, he is a member on here. The car is now Blue with a ton of history!!




I thought Mike Bogina's car was a convertable? or am I mixed up about what car you are talking about?

Is this the car?



I have heaps more pics of it but I have to go out to watch a Drummer mate do his first ever gig at a pub, will post more pics tomorrow.
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 01:41 PM

Click on the "attachment" on scatpack1s post. It is a red convert in the pic.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 02:29 PM

Quote:

Click on the "attachment" on scatpack1s post. It is a red convert in the pic.




Oops I didn't know about attachments in the post title!

Is this the car?

Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 02:34 PM

Yep, now you got it. I have a bunch but they all have to be reduced before I can post.
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 02:36 PM

Another convertable. Bill Truby collection. Thanks Bill

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 02:46 PM

Here is another one I posted earlier in the thread



It is really interesting to follow the history of some of these cars, the changes of owners, sponsors, paint etc of some cars & others still race with the same owner and look very close to how they looked when they were raced back in the 70's.

As I live on the other side of the world I have never seen these Hemi cars in the flesh but thanks to the internet, sites like this & you guys that share info with the rest of us, I can at least see what I have been missing!
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 03:30 PM

Same car with first owner,Bagwell, then Collins & Jones then Mike.

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Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 07:43 PM

Frito, I thought the Steve Bagwell car went to John Livingston which ran ss/da and said Thunder Boats on the side. Thanks / Gary
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 08:30 PM

Is that the same car that Sonny Ray ( David Rampys father-in-law ) drove for awhile? Boginas car has always been one of my favorite Mopar S/S ers. I don`t know how many of you remember but back in the late 70s Car Craft went to a couple of different cities and did articles/ and took pictures of bad street race/machines that were wandering the streets. When they went to Detroit they had Jack Rouchs Mustang 2 with a big Ford motor and I`ll never forget a big block Duster gassing up and a 72? Cuda with the torsion bars twisted up, a big Milodon pan hanging down, a big scoop, Centerline wheels, and big tires out the rear, Man did it look mean!!!
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 08:34 PM

Well, I never say never. Strange memories from people researching these cars. It was a long time ago but I got my info from Terry Earwood and Warren Barnett at Indy when Terry inspected the car in 2009.

Also a cuda (this one?) that Barnett and Earwood cut the hardtop off and made a convert. Info also from Warren and Terry. I will talking with Terry this week and I will check on the datails. Man I love this stuff!!!!!!

I have some pics of the Jerry Hurley/Sonny Ray Cuda somewhere. Sonny may have driven the Collins & Jones car also. The Jerry Hurley car was a hardtop.

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 08:54 PM

Still looking for a better pic.

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Posted By: 11secdart

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 09:13 PM

I think you`re right Frito , he drove the Hurley car not the other one.
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/15/11 09:37 PM

I do not have a picture to post right know but our 71 Cuda was the only original hemi convertible that ran back rthen.
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 12:16 AM

Sonny drove the Collins/Jones car. And Mikes car is the Terry Earwood car ('71). And yes, was a hardtop at one time. An original BIW car!

That pic of Mike with the car almost vertical is one of my favorites... Heavy damage afterward, but whoever shot that pic was in the right place at the right time!
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 07:03 AM

Page 1 post by nz383man shows Sonny Ray driving the Jerry Hurley black & silver cuda in a Bob R ice photo. Boogie,your car is on page 3 in a Bill Truby pic.Mountian Mopar???? What about the Fink Bros Convertable painted in the Shadowoods Auto scheme? Finks car was on display at Indy a couple of years ago, its still in Zanesville. I just remembered Barry Hutter in a convert. Or am I dreaming?

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 07:49 AM

Here is an add I found for the John Baughman/Kent Ritter/Bob Kaiser car, like the Sun Kissed Cuda earlier in this thread it has some great pics of the engine, interrior, trunk & underside of the car which are of great value to someone like myself who is trying to replicate such a car.

"1970 SS/DA Hemi Cuda , this car started out as an original 440 six pack car with a 4 speed and red interior, and then was converted to a NHRA super stock car(with a hemi) very early in its life. It is currently ready for Chrysler Classic or Nostalgia events or run in NHRA/IHRA. With a little detuning it could also be put back on the street.

The car gained national fame when Kent Ritter and John Baughman raced it with a six pack motor. The car is also a previous National Event(Grandnationals) and multi time SS/FA class winner(including Indy). Also many time SS/FA & SS/GA record holder(NHRA and IHRA). It even held both records simultaneously when John Baughman owned it. Car also won several points meets in NHRA Division 1 back in the day. The car has also been displayed in several Direct Connection parts catalogs too. I have National Dragsters&Magazines documenting all these accomplishments. It was originally built by Tim Richards(Bud King&Amato top fuelers crew chief) for Joe Umbra out of Wilkes Barre,PA. Then Bob Kaiser raced it before Kent Ritter.

Currently the Cuda has a 60 over Hemi in it, with Barton Heads, Barton/Mike Bogina Modified intake, and Turner/BSJ modified carter carbs. The Cuda also has a Frank Lupo tranny and convertor. Best run at legal SS/DA weight is 10.06 at 133 at the last NHRA Division 5 race of the year. I also raced the car at the Hemi Reunion in Quaker City.

The exterior of the car is painted in a old school style featuring pearl white paint with rainbow metalflake mixed in(looks great in the sunlight), orange metallic surrounding the white and purple highlights. The "Plymouth" logo on the hood and quarter panels are also old school silver leaf. There is a small dent in the passg rear qrter panel, but otherwise cars paint and body is excellent. The interior is black with some of the original red showing through on the dash. The seats will need to be recovered to be show ready.

Chrome Moly Certified Cage(current certification) with 4 link and Dana. Best 60 foot was 1.278 when John Baughman had it. Lamb Front Disc Brakes/Wilwood Rear, with Koni rear shocks. Other super stock tricks on car too."









































Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 08:06 AM

and more pics from the add . . . .

























Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 02:24 PM

Fink Bro.

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Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 04:06 PM

Guys, I don't think that you can have a conversation about SS/DA Cudas without bringing up Gary Ostrich's beautiful 70 Hemi Cuda. Last I heard it is still in this paint-minus the lettering - Kudos to the current owner for not putting it back to stock (not sure if it is an original Hemi car)
Mark J

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Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 04:15 PM

The Kaiser Bros Cuda was Clayton Wrights car before they owned it - looks like this could also have been the Ritter car - anyone know?
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 04:31 PM

SOOOO, Hutter's car was a convertable!! In no particular order, Clayton Wright, Ritter, Kaiser, Baughman, Alex ??? who raced it and had it for sale at the "All Hemi reunion". MAYBE
Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 04:35 PM

Here is the Centolanza Bros SS/D car. I was talking to Hemi John (NJ) and he told me that he and a partner bought this car from the Centolanza's and when they sold it Terry Earwood came to pick it up. Terry told me that when the current owner called to verify that the car was a 71 Hemi car Terry said yes, once the guy bought it he found out that it was really a 70 converted to a 71 - it had always been a 71 when Terry drove it - so he didn't know. Hemi John knew that the Centolanza's car had been converted to a 71 - so I am guessing that these are the same cars.
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

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Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 04:40 PM

Well,
If this is the Tim Richard's car (same guy that crew chiefed for Joe Amato) here is the car in 70-1
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

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Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 04:47 PM

Here is another one that I always liked - S&M built car
Mark J

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Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 04:49 PM

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Alex ??? who raced it and had it for sale at the "All Hemi reunion". MAYBE




Alex Polewik.

And that car was supposed to be the Tim Richards car, but I don't think that was ever confirmed if it was in fact the same car.
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 05:01 PM

Quote:

Fink Bro.




Check out Fink's web site for larger view...
Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 05:20 PM

Alex, had Dell and I check with Tim Richards at Indy either last year or the year before about his car. Tim told us that he had (2)-70 Cudas. So we are not sure which one this is supposed to be. I don't think that Tim was much help as to where the cars went - he liked seeing the pics though - he always seems grumpy but he was a pretty nice guy when he spoke with us. What most people don't know is that he built ALOT of engines and trans for S/S cars in the earlier years -Carpinet Bros, Centolanza's, ect...
Mark
Posted By: BigTerry

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 05:28 PM

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The Super Stock & Drag Illistrated magazine contest give-away car


I wonder who won that?
Posted By: mbogina

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 06:29 PM

Frito said I should jump in here a bit. My SS/DA Hemi Cuda vert raced as both a 70 and 71 car. No VIN or MSO, built from a body in white car, converted to a vert from a hardtop. Steve Bagwell owned in for awhile, driven sometimes by Terry Earwood. Owned later by Barry Hutter, possibly driven by Sonny Ray. Phil Collins bought the car in about 1975 from Barry Hutter, had it completely redone at Barnett Racecars and raced it under the Collins and Jones banner with Sonny Ray driving- missed the world championship by one round in or around 1978. The car mostly sat from around 1980 to 1990. I bought the car from Phil in August 1990. At the time the white paint scheme had been redone and the car was solid red, including bumpers and scoop, and white top. I repainted the car to blue with a black top around 2001, ripped the top off around 2002 at Brainerd, did another "straight up" wheelstand at Brainerd in 2005, pretty much like the Spring 1991 red/white wheelstand at Dallas. pics of the 2005 stuff on www.autoimagery.com. We didn't race much in 2010, hope to be out quite a bit more in 2011.
Posted By: Stroked_Hemi

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 07:20 PM

Here's an old article I scanned a while back..







Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 07:52 PM

Great input guys & thanks Mike for joining in.
Posted By: Stewart

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 10:38 PM

There were 2 Bagwell Convert Cudas. The first was originally owned by Alex Bowers, his brother Bob and a smaller share by me. It was driven by Terry Earwood and a couple of times by Wyman Barnett and sold to Steve Bagwell when I got drafted in 72. It held the SS/EA record in 72 as the Bowers Brothers Plymouth at, I think and 11.17. Kicjjade said earlier his was the only original Hemi Cuda Convert running at the time. Not true. The first Bagwell car was an original. 1 of 14 1970's. I even have photos somewhere of it in my college Homecoming parade before we put it on the track. Car came from Kelly Chry/Ply in Marietta, GA. $2400 in 1971. 6000 miles and already had a warranty engine.
It has been restored to an original 70 Hemi Cuda Convert which is what it started out as.
The second Bagwell car was a combination of a BIW and a wrecked car. It is the car tha Mike Bogina currently runs
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 10:53 PM

Stewart, sorry I meant only 1971 Hemi Conv. that I know of.
Posted By: Stewart

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/16/11 11:19 PM

Have to agree with that. I don't know of another that was an original 70 Hemi. After I wrote my response I got to thinking you might have meant 70. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted By: RV2

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/17/11 02:23 AM

So stewart are you saying the Mike Bogina car was a BIW and run as a convert and hardtop?
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/17/11 09:32 AM

Don Little

1970 Plymouth Cuda
NHRA A/SA
Engine 426 Hemi
Hydraulic Cam – Compression 10.25
Weight 3630
Best ET 10.03
Best Speed 131.96
Best 60ft. 1.34
Tire Size 9x30
1999 NHRA Stock Eliminator World Champion
Past Division Champion
Past National Record Holder
Many Time Class Champion








Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 01:18 AM

Jeff Montaque, Later Dean Nicopolis formed a partnership with the Montague brothers.

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Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 06:14 AM

Stewart,
I think that this is the car you were talking about. As for the Centolanza Cuda - don't know that it became a Bagwell car but Terry picked up the car in NJ according to Hemi John. Could have been picking it up for a Barnett customer?? It was a 70 converted to a 71 though. Which car had the roof cut off of it - was this the car that Mike has now - I would assume so as I have never heard of a B-I-W convertable. Bagwell did run a hardtop Cuda too.
Mark J

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 06:24 AM

Fink's '71 Cuda Convertable



Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 10:38 AM

Magazine cars



Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 10:49 AM

Roof Chopped Convertible?



I read somewhere that the red on the roof was to disguise the fact it was roof chopped!
Posted By: CarelianCuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 01:54 PM

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Original Sox&Martin car BS23R0B18xxxx, some lunatic burnt it in 1984
http://race68.com/donati.htm
http://www.wheelsmagazine.se/nyhetsarkiv/article207194.ece

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 05:18 PM

Frank Madden at Riverside

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Posted By: Hemi_Jack

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 07:04 PM

Bob Norwood at Bonanza Raceway in Walla Walla, WA.

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Posted By: Bruce Takala

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/18/11 07:07 PM

The Centolanza Brothers car was SS/E.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/19/11 05:37 AM

Quote:

Quote:





Original Sox&Martin car BS23R0B18xxxx, some lunatic burnt it in 1984
http://race68.com/donati.htm
http://www.wheelsmagazine.se/nyhetsarkiv/article207194.ece




Burning the Sox & Martin car! The person who did that needs their balls removed so they can't breed, we do not want more of their kind on the loose!
Posted By: Stewart

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/19/11 06:59 AM

Mark
Yes, thats the car. Don't think the Centolanzo car became a Bagwell car. The 2 above described converts were the only converts Bagwell had to my knowledge. Terry may have picked the car up for someone. At the peak Barnett Racecars had 35 customers running their Hemi Power. I can find out as I still work part time for Warren Barnett at the shop. I think Bagwell did have a hardtop that ran in SS/KA and some in B/SM but I was living out in Div 5 by then and didn't keep close tabs on the Barnett/Bagwell cars.
Ralph
The car Mike B has was never run as a hardtop, only as a convert.
Posted By: hemijohn

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/19/11 02:45 PM

THAT CAR WAS SOLD TO BAGWELL AFTER THE SUMMERNATIONALS AT E TOWN TERRY EARWOOD PICKED IT UP FROM US IN ROCKAWAY NJ FROM MY PARTNER BOB GILMORE.WE HAD TWO CARS THAT ONE AND THE 68 CUDA NOW UP FOR SALE THISWEEKEND ON MECUM AUCTIONS
Posted By: Stewart

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/20/11 12:04 AM

HemiJohn
Did Terry get a school bus in that deal too? If so that may be the car that went to John Livingston. Don't know if Terry/Steve ever ran it. Will be back at the shop Monday and ask Warren for more details.
Posted By: ro23car

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/20/11 12:18 AM

where is the hi gloss hemi car now? i know alex got rid of it.
Posted By: hemijohn

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/20/11 02:26 PM

YES,along with my 68 block for the cuda,he picked up the bus,3 blocks,2 sets of heads.and lots of parts i was there the day terry picked it up,at the time i didn't know the block was in the bus we used the bus as a shop on wheels,
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/20/11 07:18 PM

I ran into Jim Lodi at the Dutch last year. He still has this his car.

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Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda *DELETED* - 01/22/11 01:39 AM

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 01:41 AM

Boinott Brothers, Gene doing the driving.

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Posted By: 66Hemiwagon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 03:49 AM

Big fan of SS/DA cars, another picture of Gary Ostrich's 70 cuda. My dad has his 66 hemiwagon.

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Posted By: 66Hemiwagon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 04:00 AM

Quote:

where is the hi gloss hemi car now? i know alex got rid of it.



I talked to alex last spring and it was in Arizona

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Posted By: 66Hemiwagon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 04:02 AM

My favorite is Dean Nicropolis's Ramchargers Cuda

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Posted By: 66Hemiwagon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 04:11 AM

One of Sox & Martins 70 Cudas sat outside in front of John Wilson's garage in the early eighties when I was a kid. Still remember seeing it, unbelieveable how the cars were treated then and now.

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Posted By: 66Hemiwagon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 04:13 AM

Another pic of Nicropolis's cuda

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Posted By: 66Hemiwagon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 04:22 AM

SS/DA

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 10:51 AM

Dave Wren







Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 10:53 AM

Tim Richards

Posted By: ASA1711

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 12:48 PM

I always liked the Nicopolis Cuda and when I saw it at Maple Grove back in the eighties I was not disappointed. It is a beautiful car.
Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/22/11 10:09 PM

Frito : I had issue with computer, This is what mine look like when I raced it in the 70's. Thanks / Gary

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Posted By: max_maniac

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/23/11 03:33 AM

Quote:

Frito : I had issue with computer, This is what mine look like when I raced it in the 70's. Thanks / Gary






I didn't know you back then but I sure remember that car . Thats back when I was racing my ole 63 that I brought back to life just recently.


Russ
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/23/11 03:37 AM

Quote:

Frito : I had issue with computer, This is what mine look like when I raced it in the 70's. Thanks / Gary




Great looking car Gary,

Do you have any more photos? I would love to see some engine shots, Cheers
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/24/11 10:41 AM

Photobucket are on my case for uploading too many photos this month so I wont add many more until the start of next month.

Dick Landy



Dave Conners Rod Shop Challenger



Brooklyn Heavy Challenger





. . . and Cuda convertable



And what about Billy (the Kid) Stepps Challenger? It looks a lot like the Heavy Challenger a few pics up, is it the same car?



Bill Bagshaw

Posted By: KD800X

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/24/11 01:39 PM

Gary,

Was that picture taken at Norwalk?

Didn't you win the Holloween Classic with the car?
Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/24/11 02:39 PM

Kevin : The picture was taken at Norwalk and if I remember it was 1978 and you can see how they have grown. Yes I did win the Halloween Classic at Norwalk with my car. The car was sponsored by WGCL radio station and had G98 on the side which was red,white and blue. Thanks / Gary
Posted By: KD800X

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/24/11 03:41 PM

Quote:

Kevin : The picture was taken at Norwalk and if I remember it was 1978 and you can see how they have grown. Yes I did win the Halloween Classic at Norwalk with my car. The car was sponsored by WGCL radio station and had G98 on the side which was red,white and blue. Thanks / Gary




I thought you had one it but wasn't sure.... I have a magizine with you in it at the Classic, I'll have to see if I can find it again.

I thought that was the old starter stand. Man that is wild looking at the spectator side then knowing what it looks like now.


Kev
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/24/11 05:28 PM

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Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/24/11 05:30 PM

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/24/11 05:44 PM

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Chapper, This is a RARE pic. This car was lost in a fire at Eddies place and I have never seen a pic of it before. As you know there is one of his brother Larry's 70 lettered the West Virginia Mountianeer floating around.
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/25/11 02:02 AM

Quote:

Quote:

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Chapper, This is a RARE pic. This car was lost in a fire at Eddies place and I have never seen a pic of it before. As you know there is one of his brother Larry's 70 lettered the West Virginia Mountianeer floating around.




Frito,,,,I think the pic of YOUR car is probably more RARE!!
WHATEVER,,,,,which one ya' wanna' buy??
Posted By: KillerBee

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/25/11 04:39 AM

While wer're on the subject with soo many experts looking...can anyone help this guy find his old race 'Cuda?
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/2178443868.html

Posted By: fig426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/25/11 05:21 AM



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Posted By: fig426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/25/11 05:25 AM

It will be back racing this season. Low mile Hemi Shaker Challenger SS/DA car.

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/25/11 09:45 AM

Quote:

It will be back racing this season. Low mile Hemi Shaker Challenger SS/DA car.




Can you post more pics? in, out, over, under, around . . . please
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/26/11 07:27 PM

Saw this posted by Bigdad over in the Vintage Haulers thread.

Any history on the car? Is it one of the'71 convertibles previously in this thread?

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Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/27/11 02:17 AM

I was going to ask on the other picture on this posting about the Cuda. The door says Vaugh Currie as mechanic, back in the 70's Vaugh Currie raced a Hemi 1970 Challenger with a four barrel at IHRA races. I haven't heard about him in a long time, does anyone know him or what he is up to now. If I remember right the car was called Big Red and yes it was a red 1970 Challenger. Thanks / Gary
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/28/11 01:23 PM

Quote:

While wer're on the subject with soo many experts looking...can anyone help this guy find his old race 'Cuda?
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/2178443868.html






It looks like this car was around for some time judging by the changes.







Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/29/11 12:34 AM

Might be a repost, but here is another of Gary Ostrich's Cuda.

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Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/29/11 01:01 AM

I am glad this thread continues.

I notice many of these cars were running these STAHL/MOROSO tires.

These were on my Challenger back in the 70's and I still have them. They are now on my 66 Hemi Coronet.

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Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/29/11 01:02 AM

Close up. These things look great. Love the "pie crust" look.

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Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/29/11 03:16 AM

Quote:

Saw this posted by Bigdad over in the Vintage Haulers thread.

Any history on the car? Is it one of the'71 convertibles previously in this thread?




I remember this car from back in 73 (I think) at Bristol for the IHRA Spring Nationals OR it could have been the Fall Nationals that year. Any way, Herb was sitting in the staging lanes and he had the top down and this thing had power windows. When he rollded the 1/4 window down, you could see the inside of the 1/4 panel where they had sprayed them with spray on foam to make them stiffer. It had been super acid dipped to lighten the metal panels. Apparently got left in the acid tank too long as it was too flimsey and they sprayed them to stiffen them up some. Car ran awesome fast and he pulled some GIANT wheel stands every launch as I remember. I never saw it at any other races after that race and we ran them all back in the 70's.

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/30/11 02:02 AM

I don't have the budget to compete with the likes of Billy the Kid Stepp with the setup they have but it is way cool, even the pants!

Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/30/11 07:30 AM

Quote:

I was going to ask on the other picture on this posting about the Cuda. The door says Vaugh Currie as mechanic, back in the 70's Vaugh Currie raced a Hemi 1970 Challenger with a four barrel at IHRA races. I haven't heard about him in a long time, does anyone know him or what he is up to now. If I remember right the car was called Big Red and yes it was a red 1970 Challenger. Thanks / Gary



Here are some pics of Vaughn and his 70 Challenger. Vaughn ran a number of cars and is still in touch with Herb today. We talked to Herb about Vaughn and he had some great stories. Vaughn ran a number of cars and if you watch the movie Two-Lane Blacktop they show Vaughns -RT or Super Bee in the Lakeland Dragstrip pits footage.
Mark J

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/30/11 11:46 AM

Thanks to Moparts member liteweight I have secured a set of the old style Keystone Klassic wheels for the back of my car (15x10)



Rather settle for the new design Cragar made Keystones



Now I just have to keep an eye out for a set of 15x4s of the same design for the front
Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 01/30/11 04:11 PM

Mark : Thank you for the information, it was a long time ago and when I saw Vaughn's name on the side of Herb's car just made me think about him. Glad Vaughn and Herb are still keeping in touch. Thanks / Gary
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/04/11 11:38 AM

I saw this Don Garlits Dixco tach on ebay, a bit pricey but it lead me to thinking - what brand & model of tach would be period correct for an early '70s SS/DA car?

Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/04/11 12:48 PM

Frank Madden & Roger England at Columbus

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/04/11 09:00 PM

I'm looking for advice on a period correct tach, any input on dates for this lot?









The info I have on this next one is "Sun Super Tach 10000 RPM Blue Line Model SST-801. Dated 11-2-68"



Did the Sun Super Tach II not come out until the very early '80s?



What about these?





Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/04/11 09:29 PM

Quote:

what brand & model of tach would be period correct for an early '70s SS/DA car?






Stewart Warner gauges were what most ran back then. They come up once in a while.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/04/11 09:51 PM

More like this one from a 1967 ad?



I'll look through my '69-'71 Hot Rod mags & see what ads I find, Cheers
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/04/11 10:01 PM

Most of the RACE cars of this era were using the Jones/Motorola, Stahl or Moroso mechanical tach. These have a cable from the back of the tack into the dist. housing. Of course you had to have the dist. that was conpatable to the cable drive tach. The Sun Super tach that you are showing was the one to have for street cars but if you are going for the accurate race look, the mechanical cable drive one is the way to go.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/04/11 10:09 PM

OK, now thats opened things up a bit, I have never heard of some of those brands living my sheltered life in New Zealand so I'm very greatful for the info. I do have a couple of Accell tach drive distributors that I plan to build a 90 degree twin dizzy setup from so I may be able to run a mechanical cable drive from one of them, I love a challenge!
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 12:59 AM

You just want the tach for the correct period look,,right? I would say any of them would fit the criteria. As far as actually using a tach to shift with,,,I always remember a friend of mine's reply, who was also a low-buck bracket racer, when I asked him "why don't you have a tach in your car?"...He said....."If Butch Leal don't need one,, I %#@&^*% sure don't need one!"
P.S. I DO use one.. I believe the cable drive tach would be the best.
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 01:04 AM



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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 01:19 AM

So if I could track down any of these I'd be on the right track?



Jones Motrola MOROSO



MOROSO



Stahl
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 01:22 AM

Quote:






Hey Mike, what brand is the one in your photo?
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 01:32 AM

Quote:

Quote:






Hey Mike, what brand is the one in your photo?




That one in the previous pic is a Jones...


These are the gauges that came right out of my 71 SS/DA Hemi Challenger. The finish on the tach is textured, like a "suede" finish. I can't say these are rare, but I never seen another one like it. It's pretty sweet. The S/W's are

MB

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Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 01:33 AM

side view

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Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 01:39 AM

My RoadRunner had that exact same tach in 20 years ago when we got it. Too bad it was broke shortly after removing it from the car.
Posted By: Frito

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 09:46 AM

StewartP had this photo.

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Posted By: rowin4

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 04:57 PM

If your looking for accurate reading from a sun tach forget that, I think I had three back in the day before Accel and they would wander all over at high rpm's. But they looked sharp, still do.
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 05:15 PM

Sox and Martin used Stewart Warner. The Chrysler race program had the SW 535AH tach listed in their catalog.
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/05/11 05:19 PM

Quote:

Sox and Martin used Stewart Warner. The Chrysler race program had the SW 535AH tach listed in their catalog.





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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/06/11 01:15 AM

Cheers Guys, that's great info, I think I will hold out for a mechanical tach from either Stewart Warner or Stahl/MOROSO they are both great looking tachs, period correct & hopefully accurate!
I think using a mechanical tach will help give my car the serious drag car look I'm going for so even though it will be more difficult to go mechanical I think it will make it more authentic.
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/06/11 01:47 AM

Plenty of the Stewart Warner 535AH's on Ebay and not expensive either.They are VERY reliable tachometers,I have 2 in 2 different cars and the one in the Road Runner was bought new in 1972.
Posted By: ASA1711

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/06/11 02:51 AM

ttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/60s-MECHANICAL-9K-NOS-STEWART-WARNER-TACHOMETER-LIGHT-/400125962210?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d295da7e2
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/06/11 05:06 AM

Quote:

<a href="ttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/60s-MECHANICAL-9K-NOS-STEWART-WARNER-TACHOMETER-LIGHT-/400125962210?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d295da7e2" target="_blank">ttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/60s-MECHANICAL-9K-NOS-STEWART-WARNER-TACHOMETER-LIGHT-/400125962210?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d295da7e2</a>




$295 - Is that what I'm going to have to pay?

I was hoping to to get one a bit cheaper than that, although is is brand new old stock & mint condition. I think I'll save the search on ebay on the hope I find one a bit cheaper. Thanks for the input
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/07/11 07:15 AM

I was wondering how the cable would be routed when using a mechanical tach but I found this pic of the Sun Kissed Cuda shows it quite well, looks tidy enough to me.



Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/08/11 12:00 PM

Here is a great shot of the tach in the Sox & Martin '71 Pro Stock Cuda.



And a couple of the Hemi for inspiration until I get my dual plug Hemi finished.





And more of the car just because it is way cool!







Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/09/11 12:55 PM

Here are some pics of the '70 Sox & Martin Cuda. As far as ideas, detail & workmanship go, this is one car I should be looking at very closely before attempting my build.













Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/09/11 01:13 PM

Can anyone ID the brand of the blue cool can and the pale blue ignition coil in these shots?







Posted By: The Cuda Guy

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/10/11 11:04 AM

This is a great thread! Thanks for all the great pics and historic point of view.

Don
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/10/11 11:31 AM

OK, so this is a bit off topic but it does concern the donor(?) car so what the hey!

Today I had a day off work & as I have an 1/8 mile street sprint (100 miles from home) on Sunday I thought I should show interest in my very low compression cast intake & exhaust, 625 Carter equipped 383 '70 Barracuda. I have converted the 626 AVS to annular boosters a few years ago but it is still a bit flat when I stomp on the gas so I swaped out the .033 (modified Edelbrock) nozzle for a .o43 nozzle today in the hope of minimising the bog.
I did some other small things that needed done as well but I was invited to a full on commercial brewery for a few beers at 5.30 so the car thing had to take a back seat to beer for a change.



The car did miss out a bit tonight but I still have 2 days before the 1/8 so hopefully I'll get it all sorted in time as there is nothing much more I have to do.

Here I am racing at Gore last year.

Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/16/11 11:15 AM

The bigger nozzle made all the difference, when I stomped on the gas anywhere from idle to well up in the revs there was no bog at all & the car ran near perfect high 14 to low 15 to 1 A/F on the open road & mid 12s under full load so I was very happy with my 40 year old Carter AVS.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/16/11 11:35 AM

Ok back to the original subject . . .

What diff should I run? at present the car has a 8 3/4" with a suregrip & 3.91:1 gears but I think I should be going to a Dana 60 & have been told just about any mid 70's-80's Dodge & Ford 3/4 ton only truck or van will work.

So. . what do I look for, what do I avoid, what brakes, what type of lock up etc, remembering that this car will need to be able to drive on the open road & aroung town when required.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/19/11 11:54 AM

This repro Pro Stock scoop is not all that different to the scoop on the Sox & Martin '71 Pro Stock Cuda & it sure looks great on their car.





Posted By: 68hemiss

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/20/11 05:07 PM

Here is a photo from a magazine article on the S&M 70 P/S Barracuda. It shows the cool can - not sure of the manufacturer but it looks like it has a Milodon sticker on it. As for the coil - this is the Chrysler Prestolite coil that was also used on the 68 Hemi Darts & Barracudas and most P/S Mopars until the crank trigger came out. Note on the Mech tachs - there are a couple of different positions that the cable exits the back of the gauge - straight out, to the bottom or side. Not a big deal but something to be aware of - I belive that there are 90º adaptors available. In order to get the correct look (stance) the trend in those days was for a tall front tire - I would look for the tallest tires that you can find in 15". Most street tires (rear) are shorter than the slicks used on these cars and the look is not right. The Dana 60's that are found in trucks must have the housing ends cut off and replaced and new axles purchased - the truck Danas also do not have a provision to mount the pinnion snubber as well - check other threads in the race section on IDing the Dana 60 as there are a couple of different Danas used in trucks - there are also a couple of different axle tube diameters - look for the same as the car Dana - 3".
Mark J

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Posted By: hemiviper588

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/20/11 06:05 PM

Here is a pic of my R code 19K mile 4 spd Challenger...wish I still had it today!

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Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/20/11 07:38 PM

Coker, makes a good reproduction front tire for this type of stuff. You can either go with a Firestone front runner, or ProTrac's. They are sold through Summit. Radials just do not look "correct" for this type of build. Also I'd go with a 6 pack hood, and cut the lower lip out of the scoop like the 70 Sox&Martin Cuda had instead of the aftermarket ProStock scoop IMO.

Jeff
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 11:16 AM

I bought one of these on ebay today



New old stock, just like this one belonging to Sox & Martin.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 12:32 PM

68hemiss

Cheers for the great info & the pic of the cool can, I’m not trying to make an exact copy of any particular car but I do want to keep this project as period correct as my finances and limited knowledge allow so keep up the helpful pics & info as it is of great help to me with this project. The cool can in the pic has a certain look about it that dates it quite well so that’s what I’ll look for but I won’t get too stressed whether it is red or blue or which knob/ handle the lid has, as long as it looks similar to the one in the pic & preferably a brand that was used on this type of car.

The Chrysler Prestolite coil you identified, I may end up using a similar looking coil/s painted that shade of blue to look like the ones used back in the day. I think it is all these details that will hopefully make my car a hit rather than a miss with what I’m aiming for.

I won’t know how the cable attaches to the Stewart Warner tach I bought today for at least a month as I use a slow (but cheap) means of freight from the US to my home in New Zealand. I may need to ask you more about this when it arrives & I can see what I actually have & what I need to make it work.

As far as the tyres go I will be using the old bias ply style tyres, I think given time I’ll use 2 sets of Keystone wheels, 15x7 with 27-18” street tyres & 15x10 with 29-30” street tyres for cruising distances & a set of 15x4 with tall treaded front runners & 15x10 with slicks for short runs, shows & drags. I totally understand what you are saying about tyre height & steering clear of radials to keep this thing looking correct.

I have just started looking at the Dana 60 thing & I can see that this is a big deal in itself & there is some major homework to be done before I start committing to anything.

hemiviper588

Great pic, really cool paint job!

Do you mind if I post it directly on this thread it so others don’t have to open your attachment?

JERICOGTX

I’ll look into the tyres you mentioned, you are quite right about radials & I can safely say I won’t be going there.

As for the hood/scoop I am still undecided at this point, I like the 6 pack scoop, I like the pro stock scoop & I do like the shaker scoop but due to price I haven’t thought too much about the shaker. If I do go to a shaker it would probably be a cheater setup where the hood is all one with the scoop mounted in as part of the hood, I just can not justify the cost of a full out shaker setup for this car. My dual quad setup might look a bit tame under a pro stock scoop but I could always change to a tunnel ram or just stand proud & say it’s my car & I’ll do what I like!


Thanks Guys for the great input.
Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:02 PM

pro stock

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:05 PM

pro stock 2

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:09 PM

cool parts

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:11 PM

more

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:13 PM

Magnesium Motor Spyder Wheels

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:18 PM

S&M

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:19 PM

Old Challenger

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 06:21 PM

Another of the Challenger

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 07:10 PM

Cheers JRepucci, as I will never be able to see a SS/DA or Pro Stock E-Body in New Zealand these detail pics are invaluable to me, Thanks

The wheels in your earlier shots ae quite different, what did the come off? do you have any history on them?
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 07:19 PM

Whats the history on the Challenger?

The pics you posted are SS/DA cars not ProStock.

The Motor wheel Spyders were used by alot of Stock class racers and some used on Early ProStocks. I heard Motor Wheel gave the wheels to racers? The other wheels are Motor Wheel Fleas. Rear wheels were called Fly's, front/Fleas. They were the lightest wheel you could get back in the day. VERY hard to come by now days, and when you do they are expensive. Those Mag Spyders are probably more rare then Fly's... You also saw more Spyders on cars like Oldsmobiles. Not too often on Mopars.

Jeff
Posted By: mike s

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 07:55 PM

Quote:

Most of the RACE cars of this era were using the Jones/Motorola, Stahl or Moroso mechanical tach. These have a cable from the back of the tack into the dist. housing. Of course you had to have the dist. that was conpatable to the cable drive tach. The Sun Super tach that you are showing was the one to have for street cars but if you are going for the accurate race look, the mechanical cable drive one is the way to go. [/quote

I agree and don't forget the mechanical SW rev limiter that t'd into the tach cable.
Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 10:48 PM

Challenger

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 10:50 PM

Quote:

Whats the history on the Challenger?

The pics you posted are SS/DA cars not ProStock.

The Motor wheel Spyders were used by alot of Stock class racers and some used on Early ProStocks. I heard Motor Wheel gave the wheels to racers? The other wheels are Motor Wheel Fleas. Rear wheels were called Fly's, front/Fleas. They were the lightest wheel you could get back in the day. VERY hard to come by now days, and when you do they are expensive. Those Mag Spyders are probably more rare then Fly's... You also saw more Spyders on cars like Oldsmobiles. Not too often on Mopars.

Jeff




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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 10:52 PM

Challenger

This car was for sale on "racejunk.com" a couple of years ago.

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 10:56 PM

Flamed cuda... was advertised as original "body in white" I think.

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 11:01 PM

NOS parts

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 11:03 PM

More NOS

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 11:04 PM

another

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 11:07 PM

More NOS... I have all the parts pictured other than the wheels... UPS lost the pair of Motor Wheel "fleas"... I have a set of Fenton "gyros" 15x3.5's with old school ribbed tires

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/21/11 11:12 PM

and another cool old school part

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Posted By: cdp

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/22/11 03:44 AM

1) Hahn/Norwood 70 Hemi Cuda was rolled.

2) The 71 Cuda has been found along with the original motor, but I haven't heard anything about since.

Would love to hear more about it.

http://www.bobnorwood.com/Norwood%20Story.htm



Norwood's passion for automobiles started at a young age. Bob Norwood began his racing career at age 13, driving a 1946 Ford Coupe, in Kansas where he competed in his first drag race. He continued drag racing while in high school, driving a six cylinder GMC G-Gas Coupe and later an A-Sports Corvette. After graduation Anderson Motors, a Chrysler dealer, sponsored Norwood requiring him to "get rid of the Corvette." Instead, they provided an altered wheel base funny car, an AFX Hemi Plymouth, following with three Hahn SS/DA Hemi-Cuda's. In 1971 he raced superstocks in a Hemi-Cuda reached number two in the world A/FC point standings. Norwood raced an AA/FC with Dale Armstrong and eventually moved to race the Lone Star Flyer, a BB/FC car.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/22/11 04:14 AM

Norwood had 2 70 Cuda's, the one that was rolled and another that he ran into 71. Looking at the vinyl top and the rear wing this 70 may have been converted to the 71 that was at the Ontario Supernationals.

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Posted By: cdp

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/22/11 04:39 AM

The 71 was in HR magazine. I have a pic. somewhere. It was a Bahama Yellow, auto, louvers, auto car that was taken off Hahns lot and converted. The motor from the wrecked car went into the 71 and raced for only a season or 2 before Norwood went on to prostock.

I have the VIN # to the 71 car, but since its somewhat in hiding I won't reveal it.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/22/11 04:46 AM

Ontario

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Posted By: cdp

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/22/11 04:52 AM

yea, thats it.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/22/11 04:56 AM

Any idea what happened to the 70 I posted? He rolled the original 70 in Sept. 70. The one he rolled had a neat custom paint job and no vinyl top. I saw the 70 he rolled in mid 70 at Bonanza Raceway in Walla Walla, WA. The 70 I posted was at Bonanza Raceway in June 71. He gave me a ride home from the track, he mentioned that the original that he raced a few times at Bonanza in 1970 was rolled due to the ignition/steering lock. I saw the article that I think you posted that showed the aftermath of the wreck.
Posted By: Cloned_Cuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/24/11 02:52 AM

Tempus Fugit

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/24/11 08:35 AM

More pics of Rick Wolf





Posted By: HPMike

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/24/11 12:56 PM

Hmm, that IR induction setup looks familiar..

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/24/11 07:09 PM

Hmm, It looks very similar to the setup in a very well known car in an earlier photo, is that where it came from?
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/27/11 08:38 AM

Jeff Montague



Art Pacheco

Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/28/11 11:21 AM

This may cause a bit of flack but I bought this MOROSO cool can today.



My reasons were -

- It has to be very close to the correct era that I'm aiming for.

- It is a well known brand of the era that many racers used.

- It has 1/2" line rather than the 3/8" that many have.

- It has insulation, (I can't see the point running a non insulated alloy cool can, it would just soak in heat from the engine bay).

- The cork insulation is butt ugly (but functional) & I like the fact that some people will have a problem with that!
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/09/11 10:12 AM

OK so I know this car is not a Hemi car & I think a pic or two have been posted earlier but I saw a post of Brian's ('72CudaRacer) on this site, Googled him & found his web site http://www.hammerdown.org/bvdracing/
Great pics & great story, this man followed his dream & that's exactly what I intend to, it may take a while but like Brian I will get there one day!
Enjoy Brian's photos & check out his website













Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/12/11 02:34 PM

Antony Christopher's "Peace Maker" - built by Sox & Martin.

Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/16/11 11:07 AM

Some interesting reading!

Chrysler Racer's Contract 1969









Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/16/11 11:36 AM

Sox & Martin Pro Stock Hemi engine.























Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/17/11 02:06 AM

S&M "elephant ears" I have some brackets that weld to the frame rails too.

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/17/11 02:07 AM

close up... of "elephant ear"

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/17/11 05:05 AM

Hey JRepucci, could you post a photo or two of the other brackets as well please, I have a pair of the brackets in your photos above but I have no idea what they should bolt to.

I don't suppose your parts are for sale?

Cheers
Posted By: JCCuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/23/11 02:49 PM

Picture from 1976 Summernationals

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Posted By: JCCuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/23/11 02:51 PM

Another from 1976 Summernationals

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Posted By: JCCuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/23/11 02:53 PM

Another 1976 Summernationals

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Posted By: JCCuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/23/11 02:57 PM

This is a Challenger from the 1976 Summenationals but it is a SS/DA car so I thought I'd throw it in.

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Posted By: BS27R1B

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/24/11 06:05 AM

Quote:

Roof Chopped Convertible?



I read somewhere that the red on the roof was to disguise the fact it was roof chopped!





This car was in fact a real 1970 Cuda 440-6 automatic convertible converted to a 1971 car for the 71 racing season. This car was one of the EV2 white top promotional cars built on August 02 1969. There were 6-7 of them built for use to introduce the new Cuda model. Canada got Tor Red 440-6 auto Cuda convertibles and the US received Rallye Red 440-6 4 speed Challenger convertibles.

This particular car was a second choice for the Cloakes & Coates racing team as they had a 71 Hemi Cuda convertible on order for the 71 season but it was delayed so long on delivery they took this car off the Town & Country Chrysler lot and converted it.

At the time the car needed to have a Hemi VIN to race in NHRA SS/DA class so a blank VIN plate was ordered by the dealership and a 71 VIN was made up and stamped by a local Jeweler to make the car class leagal.

This car is still around today and is on Idaho. TheVIN states that it is a 71 Hemi Cuda convertible but the fender tag indicates it is a 1970 440-6 convertible!

Just another old race car in the day!

By -the- way, the original intended race car was loaded up and is part of Dave Blake's collection and is probably the best looking of the original 71 hemi Cuda ragtops, Orange/orange with white billboards. Shows around 20,000 original miles. And yes it did see some track duty as well back in the day! Another amazing fact is the real hemi car was sold at one time in a real estate transaction as part of the 'contents' of a home sale!

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/24/11 07:10 AM

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm messing with VIN tags

I bet there are worse stories out there though!
Posted By: BS27R1B

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/24/11 01:57 PM

Here is a photo of Don Grotheer's last Pro Stock car. I know it isn't a Mopar but NHRA had factored the Hemi out of the class.

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Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/05/11 02:48 AM

Saw a SS/D today.

Blue Angel II

Has NHRA driver number of 1229 still on window.

Has 391 miles on odometer..never titled.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/05/11 11:22 AM

Did you get any pics Tony?
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/09/11 01:44 PM

I found a photo of Blue Angel II

Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/11/11 12:11 PM

Some parts arrived today



A couple of new old stock 15 x 10s & couple of matching 15x 7s (the boxes are 30 years newer than the wheels that came in them!)



A MOROSO cool can



And a Stewart Warner mechanical tach



Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/11/11 12:23 PM

Same tach I have..The SW 505AH.One I have is almost 40 years old and still works great to this day.

Did you get the chrome cup with it??
Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/11/11 05:26 PM

Quote:

Did you get any pics Tony?




Did not have a camera with me....sorry
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/11/11 08:11 PM

Quote:

Same tach I have..The SW 505AH.One I have is almost 40 years old and still works great to this day.

Did you get the chrome cup with it??




Na, I got outbid on the cap
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/11/11 08:16 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Did you get any pics Tony?




Did not have a camera with me....sorry




Oh well, at least you got to see it . . .

and if you saw it once it may appear again . . . . . . on a day you have a camera
Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/11/11 08:44 PM

yeah...

couple of friends in town bought it a couple of years ago as an investment...
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/12/11 04:32 AM

Quote:

yeah...

couple of friends in town bought it a couple of years ago as an investment...




It's not often you can really say some investment is better than money in the bank but this time it is soo true, A Hemi Cuda with race history is much better than money in the bank.
Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/12/11 05:03 AM

they told me that they got boxes of parts with it...any oem part that was taken off the car for racing was boxed up...

and that was what was in the boxes...

it does not have numbers matching engine is what i was told.
Posted By: Race&Resto

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/31/11 04:32 AM

Anyone out there know if Gary Ostrich's 70-71 Cuda SS/DA is still around today, if it is some recent shots of it would be nice.
Posted By: sixpakdodge

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/31/11 06:34 PM

Quote:

Anyone out there know if Gary Ostrich's 70-71 Cuda SS/DA is still around today, if it is some recent shots of it would be nice.




That car was featured in one of Roland Osborne's Mopar magazines in the mid-90's (I can't remember the name, it changed every year). At the time, It was still in it's "Del Star" paint job.
Posted By: sixpacksteve

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/31/11 11:04 PM

i believe i was chrysler power magazine
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 06/08/11 09:13 AM

You will probably have already worked out that I'm leaning more toward Pro Stock than SS/DA now but I'll stick with this same thread as it is still very relevant to my project.

I got another shipment of parts yesterday



An old Super Stock sump



a new Pro Stock style hood scoop



2 sets of S & M elephant ears, one set chrome & one set brushed alloy.





and a Trac lok for my Dana 6o (until I can afford a better one)

Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 06/30/11 01:09 PM

I managed to find a couple of old NHRA rule books on ebay, they have great info & even the photos & adverts are very helpful as I was too young to understand about such things in the early '70s



Posted By: Race&Resto

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/09/11 03:30 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Anyone out there know if Gary Ostrich's 70-71 Cuda SS/DA is still around today, if it is some recent shots of it would be nice.




That car was featured in one of Roland Osborne's Mopar magazines in the mid-90's (I can't remember the name, it changed every year). At the time, It was still in it's "Del Star" paint job.




Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/15/12 04:00 AM

Quote:

Did you get any pics Tony?




The car was at MATS this weekend...it will featured in two magazines...Mopar Muscle and Mopar Collector Guide ...

Paul ...one of the owner drove it around the pits...

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Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/15/12 04:00 AM

x2

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Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/15/12 04:03 AM

x3

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/15/12 09:49 AM

Wow, Great pics, I searched Blue Angel pics but came up with very little, Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 05:32 AM

Quote:

Quote:

The Super Stock & Drag Illistrated magazine contest give-away car


I wonder who won that?




A guy by the name of John Zibor, but in reality, it was Pete Tritak. Say what, you're saying? Here's the inside story from another forum:

Originally Posted by colesy

Speaking of John Zibor, this has got to be his biggest claim to fame. It's not everyday that someone wins a Tritak & Morgan prepped SS/DA Cuda. Some of you no doubt remember this contest SS&DI magazine put together back in the day. To win, you had to sell SS&DI subscriptions. They followed the whole build process and after a season or so of racing they picked a lucky winner.

Dom replied:

OK NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE REST OF THE STORY!

Thought some of you would like to know the real story of John Zibor and the Tritak/Morgan Cuda. First of all, going back to 1963 Pete Tritak and I were both working at Tri Town Motors Chrysler Plymouth in Clifton NJ. I was parts manager and he was a mechanic. I use to pick him up in Passaic on my way to work from Hoboken.

I had met George Trifoli owner of Tri Town at Island Dragway. Pete use to drive Tri Towns 63 plymouth 426 max wedge car. Eventually George offered me a job and I went to work in the parts dept. Pete had some family problems and stopped driving the car and I took over.

Pete and I started a small business on the side right around the corner from the dealership. We built max wedge cars and did manual shift torqueflites and general repair, still working during the day in the dealership. Eventually Pete and I both went to work for Arrow Motors Dodge in West New York NJ. We still had the shop in Passaic.

Finally I was getting married and we continued in the shop after work in Passaic but I moved further south to Woodbridge and he went in to business as Tritak Performance in Clifton. I still worked at Arrow and moved to Irvington Dodge as service director and eventually to Knoblock Dodge in South River and I started Rinaldi Automotive out of my shop at my house in Woodbridge.

For those of you that have read all the previous posts, I won't go into it again in detail but.........I supplied to Pete the '63 Plymouth wagon that became the "War Wagon",and paid for the Jenkins motor that was in it. I was reimbursed by Pete for everything I paid out as we were still good friends and I had the $$$ to help him. He had much success with the wagon and got the deal with Super Stock magazine.

From the onset the deal was going to be a giveaway of the Cuda at the end of the race year. The decision was that Super Stock magazine would have a contest and that the person selling the most subscriptions for the magazine would win the car.

{I have never seen this mentioned before and hope that I don't piss off some people}, but Pete really wanted to keep the car. Enter John Zibor a policeman in Clifton where Pete's shop was . It was decided that John would be the front man for the contest and would be the winner!! Everybody that came through the door of Pete's shop got a subscription to Super Stock,{including me}. Pete paid for the subscriptions and they were all sent in with John Zibor as the salesman.

I don't remember the exact number of how many were sold but it far out distanced anyone else. There was a $$$ amount that took place between John and Pete but I was never told how much Pete paid him for being the front man. The car never left Pete's shop and the story that got around was that he bought it from John after he won it.

AND NOW YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY!!

DOM


~~~~~~~~~~

Pete
Posted By: 52savoy

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 05:55 AM

Quote:

Same tach I have..The SW 505AH.One I have is almost 40 years old and still works great to this day.

Did you get the chrome cup with it??



X2... I've had mine 40 years too and it works great
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 06:00 AM

Plymouth and Dodge SS/D's and DA's in action at the 1971 NHRA Summernationals in Englishtown, NJ.

The aforementioned Super Stock & Drag Illustrated magazine Hemi 'Cuda project car vs. unidentified Hemi Road Runner.


Dewey Cook


Dave Connors


Looks like Tim Richard's 'Cuda vs. John Tedder's Hemi GTX convertible.


Unable to make out the name on this 'Cuda. Anyone?


Pete
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 06:21 AM

1971 "Indy" Nationals, which, by the way, the national event where Chrysler products won every eliminator, from Top Fuel all the way down to Stock eliminator, a feat heretofore never accomplished by any other brand.

Dean Nicopolis


Tritak & Morgan


Charlie Castaldo vs. Boitnoit Bros. 'Cuda in the left lane (at least that's who I think it is).


Dave Connors


Pete
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 11:34 AM

Great pics Qwik426, thanks for sharing them with us.
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 05:53 PM

Quote:

Great pics Qwik426, thanks for sharing them with us.




You're welcome, my friend!

Pete
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 06:25 PM

Bill Tanner's SS/DA Challenger R/T at the 1970 Chicago Auto Show


When's the last time you've seen a Sox & Martin 1970 'Cuda with its factory Shaker hood? That only sez SS/D to me. However, there is no record of the team campaigning a 1970 Hemi 'Cuda in that class. Still, cool-looking and RARE!


'Little' Richard


Centolanza Bros. and Clayton B. Wright pitted together at some race at Cecil County Dragway (or Drag-o-Way) sometime in 1971.




And last, but not least, my ex-SS/DA (street) car before it was converted back to street use sans any decals, race Hemi, fiberglass T/A hood, Super Trick wheels, etc., when previous owner George Duane campaigned it. I was told by one longtime drag racer that George had purchased a class legal $6,000.00 Dick Landy-built Hemi for the car; needless to say, that was mucho bucks back in the mid-1970s even to a service station owner.

I purchased the car back in Nov. 1977 for the 'grand' sum of $1200.00! The race engine, drivetrain and other racing equipment was pulled and removed by George and the body sold (for $500.00) to a guy named Rich Mastrianno. In its place, at Rich's request, he installed a 1968 Street Hemi with matching 4-speed trans and Dana 60 rear pulled from his (Rich's) original 1968 4-speed Hemi Charger R/T whose interior caught fire and written off as totaled by the insurance company--argh!! What a loss! But that was the mindset back then.

Car was originally Ice Blue Metallic, black interior, 4-speed, 383 cu.in. non-Shaker hood car. IF it were an original Hemicar, I'd still own it today for I was well aware of how to read the VIN tag unlike many back then. Still, it sounded, felt and performed just like a bona fide Hemicar.
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 07:09 PM

John Fenn


Kaiser Bros. & Kent Ritter now running in SS/GA with 440+6 power.


Rick Wolf


Felix Lukach

(Lynn W. Morton photos)

Pete
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/19/12 10:22 PM



Thanks again Quik426, can you tell me what size tires the last 2 cars pictured would have been running?
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/22/12 07:28 PM

Quote:



Thanks again Quik426, can you tell me what size tires the last 2 cars pictured would have been running?




You're welcome. Looks to me like 14" x 32".

Pete
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/23/12 10:57 AM

Quote:

Quote:



Thanks again Quik426, can you tell me what size tires the last 2 cars pictured would have been running?




You're welcome. Looks to me like 14" x 32".

Pete




Thanks Pete, I just bought a set of 14 x 32s on rims to see if they would fit but it was hard to tell without relocating the springs.

How much cutting & tucking was needed to fit those big tires in? Springs in the chassis rails? how much tubbing?

Cheers, Kevin
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/28/12 12:03 AM

Quote:

Thanks Pete, I just bought a set of 14 x 32s on rims to see if they would fit but it was hard to tell without relocating the springs.

How much cutting & tucking was needed to fit those big tires in? Springs in the chassis rails? how much tubbing?

Cheers, Kevin




Hi Kevin,

On my car the following was done: inside part of inner wheelwheel housing (closest to frame rail) was heated with an acetylene torch and lower portion of it (i.e., closest to trunk floor) hammered flush with rear frame rail. I know, not state of the art nor pretty but low-buck and served the purpose. Other cars of that time period would usually have inner a.k.a. "mini" wheel tubs installed. It is accomplished as follows: the wheelwell housing would be split in two using an air chisel and/or drilling out the stock spot welds that hold both halves together, trim a few inches of trunk floor pan material up to the rear frame rail, move inner part of wheelwell housing up against it, clamp it in place, measure how much you need to fill in the gap which is now there between the two sections of the original wheelwell housing.

Back to my car: front spring hangers were not mounted in lower part of rear subframe as is usually done, but inside of it, i.e., the opposite of where the stock front spring hanger is located (i.e., outside of frame rail). In the back, offset rear spring shackles where installed.

Due to the larger circumferance of the slick, you will need to elongate the wheelwell opening, mostly in front. If you look closely at the Duane's Sunoco Challenger above, you'll see where they heated the outer wheelwell opening in the quarter panel (just ahead of the tire) and folded it over and hammered it flat gainst the stock wheelwell housing. Again, not pretty but lowbuck and functional. Doing it correctly would require cutting a section of the quarter panel (where the wheelwell opening is located) removing it, cutting a section out for the necessary clearance just ahead of the piece you removed and filling the gap with a piece of sheet metal to fill in the gap and the associated bodywork and paint necessary to complete the job.

Have fun!

Pete
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/28/12 12:19 AM







Pete
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/28/12 12:22 AM











Pete
Posted By: Tommy D

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/30/12 06:45 PM

As for tires...your dead on. Go with a 29" tall if possible. Coker makes a ribbed wall firestone in a multitude of sizes. The picture attached is only 27" tall. They look exactly like the Stahl brand front racing tires from back in the day. I'm sure you could even make a stencil to make them look like Stahl's if you wanted. Great thread. I love Cragars, mech tachs, hood scoops, and tunnel rams. What's better on a hot rod?

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/31/12 10:27 AM

Quote:

As for tires...your dead on. Go with a 29" tall if possible. Coker makes a ribbed wall firestone in a multitude of sizes. The picture attached is only 27" tall. They look exactly like the Stahl brand front racing tires from back in the day. I'm sure you could even make a stencil to make them look like Stahl's if you wanted. Great thread. I love Cragars, mech tachs, hood scoops, and tunnel rams. What's better on a hot rod?




As I'm going for more of the Pro Stock look now rather than the SS/DA and the fact that we must run full tread tires on the street here in New Zealand I thoughtI might run these on the street.



Coker Tire 72150 - Coker Tire Pro-Trac Performance Tires. S375/60-15

Wheel Width Range: 10'' to 12'' Wide
Tire Section Width: 15''
Tire Tread Width: 12.75''
Tire Overall Diameter: 32.5''
Wheel Diameter: 15''

Maybe.

I have the tunnel ram thing covered, magnesium, ex Motown team.





I don't like Cragars but I love the original Keystones so I got some of them.



not a great photo but they are the same as these



mechanical tach. . check.



hood scoop . . check, check





originally was going to us the black Sox & Martin style one but maybe I'll use the lift off hood & raise the scoop a bit to look more like the Motown Missile scoop.
Posted By: chuckaboon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 06/07/12 11:59 AM

I worked for quite a few years on The "Blue Angel II"
The car came from long gone "Kellet" Chrysler Plymouth, in Brockport N.Y. I know all the history of this car from day 1 to about 1975

Photo from Niagara airport drag strip 1970

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Posted By: chuckaboon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 06/23/12 12:39 AM

Here's more of "Blue Angel II" at "Empire Dragway" New York about 1971

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Posted By: chuckaboon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 06/23/12 12:43 AM

Another of "Blue Angel II" at Empire
If anyone knows the current owner(s) I really would like to contact them

Thanks

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 06/23/12 04:44 AM

Thanks for the pics chuckaboon , I have never driven a Hemi car so you can probably imagine how excited I am to get my Hemi together & in my car.
Posted By: chuckaboon

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 06/23/12 10:58 AM

You are very welcome NZ Man, best wishes on your project. I only drove the "Blue Angel II' twice, ...on and off my alignment rack! It's funny to think now, but back then, we didn't think anything of it, like Hemi cars will be made from now on till forever.
I've done a lot of thinking about this car lately, and if you like I'll write down some of the stories about this car. Like the time it nearly ended up in a canal with me underneath!

Regards
Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/22/13 07:32 PM

Like this post a lot. Some great cars in this.
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 02/24/13 10:44 AM

Quote:

Like this post a lot. Some great cars in this.






There sure are some great cars in this thread, very inspiring

Since I changed direction from SS/DA to Pro Stock I decided that I "needed" a magnesium Dana 60 so I bought one & it is on it's way as we speak.
Posted By: SoCalRacer

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/20/13 06:29 PM

This is such a great thread. Here's a shot I took of an SS/FA at the NHRA U.S. Nationals sometime in the late '80s or early '90s.

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Posted By: SoCalRacer

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/20/13 06:32 PM

And another ...

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Posted By: SoCalRacer

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/20/13 07:06 PM

Took this at the 2011 Winternationals. Mike was runner-up with this car at the 2013 Winternationals, currently running in SS/JA with a 383.

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/21/13 05:10 AM

Nice cars

I live on the wrong side of the world to see these cars for real but I have booked tickets to the Mellow Yellow nationals at New England & the NHRA nationals at Norwalk, so hopefully I will see some real cool race cars at these events.
Posted By: SoCalRacer

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 03/21/13 07:55 PM

Those are good choices to see some doorslammer action. We raced at Norwalk a good bit when I lived in Ohio - nice track. Lot of dragsters, altereds, and funny cars here on the west coast where I live now, but the Midwest is where the door car action is best. The U.S. Nationals at Indy is a great door car race too if you ever get a chance to go to that. Here is one I took of the Andy Boltz/Baughman's 'Cuda at the 1989 U.S. Nationals.

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 07/11/13 06:09 AM

Streetable

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 07/11/13 04:51 PM

Hemi Challenger

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Posted By: JRepucci

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 07/11/13 04:52 PM

71 hemicuda'

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Posted By: Dragula

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 07/11/13 05:27 PM

Not sure what classes they ran it in, but I still run it today....Nice low mileage car...

Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/27/14 11:58 PM

Quote:

That is the same car with different paint job, Tom Fisher bought the car from Trippi Kling Performance in the 70's and then sold to Hemi Dave, then was sold to Darwin Oliver who passed away. I believe the car was then sold by his dad. Thanks / Gary




Truppi-Kling Performance? They were diehard Chevy guys! That's akin to buying a 427 Camaro from Sox & Martin!

What's the story?

Pete
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/28/14 01:04 AM

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Here is a photo of Don Grotheer's last Pro Stock car. I know it isn't a Mopar but NHRA had factored the Hemi out of the class.




More like Chrysler cut off Don's sponsorship. What to do? Go out and buy a car that was competitive unlike the Hemi Mopars and punitive weight that NHRA imposed on them. And just for fun (or spite) Don had a big Mopar logo on the rear windshield of his Pinto.

Pete
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 05/28/14 01:06 AM

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71 hemicuda'




With AAR 'Cuda hood. That's unusual.

Pete
Posted By: cudaplus

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 08/25/14 08:32 PM

Wondering if anyone has additional info on the Boitnoit Bros cuda in the 3rd pic from Qwik426 posted on 12/14/2005. The one with the blue roof. Think I may have this car.

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Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 11/10/15 01:29 AM

Originally Posted By cudaplus
Wondering if anyone has additional info on the Boitnoit Bros cuda in the 3rd pic from Qwik426 posted on 12/14/2005. The one with the blue roof. Think I may have this car.


Lucky you. smile Here's a nice photo from the 1973 Springnationals:



Pete
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 11/10/15 02:18 AM

Great looking paint job!
Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/08/16 12:44 PM

Photos taken at Island Dragway sometime in 1975. Looks like late Summer or early Fall. Where's that Time Machine? I want to go back! smile








Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/08/16 12:53 PM

Not a SS/DA Hemi 'Cuda but a Hemi 'Cuda nonetheless. smile

Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/08/16 01:02 PM



Posted By: racerx

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 04/09/16 12:59 AM

Cool A$$ e-bodys cool
Posted By: Utah Joe

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/13/22 05:54 PM

Hello all....I just happened to stuble upon this thread while looking through some of my dads old drag racing pictures from 67-70....Englishtown and Island dragway. My dad had a superstock mustang at this time, but he also had a 1970 barracuda as his daily driver.

Anyway, I found this picture from what I believe is 1970....behind my dads mustang is what looks to me like a 1970 challenger....I cant read what it says on the door, but sure looks like a big Chrysler star on the side...and judging by the hood scoop...im guessing maybe its a pro stock, not a super stock car? I looked thru all 18 pages of this thread, but I didnt see this car

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this was also the same year, but at island, looks a 64 belvedere...not sure if it looks familiar to anyone

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Posted By: Qwik426

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/22 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by Utah Joe
Anyway, I found this picture from what I believe is 1970....behind my dads mustang is what looks to me like a 1970 challenger....I cant read what it says on the door, but sure looks like a big Chrysler star on the side...and judging by the hood scoop...im guessing maybe its a pro stock, not a super stock car? I looked thru all 18 pages of this thread, but I didnt see this car

That's Jack Werst's 1971 'Cuda Pro Stocker.

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Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/22 05:11 AM

Anyone interested in owning an outstanding, competitive SS/DA 70 Cuda, the super nice example from Jersey is for sale on Classracer.

I have no involvement beyond wishing I had the disposable funds to make that call. Just sayin'.
Posted By: 340Cuda

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/14/22 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Anyone interested in owning an outstanding, competitive SS/DA 70 Cuda, the super nice example from Jersey is for sale on Classracer.

I have no involvement beyond wishing I had the disposable funds to make that call. Just sayin'.


This is a "best of everything" first class car.
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/15/22 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by 340Cuda
Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Anyone interested in owning an outstanding, competitive SS/DA 70 Cuda, the super nice example from Jersey is for sale on Classracer.

I have no involvement beyond wishing I had the disposable funds to make that call. Just sayin'.


This is a "best of everything" first class car.


Very good deal on that car. Considering.
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/16/22 01:04 AM

Wasn't there a build thread on here on that car?
Posted By: Utah Joe

Re: Early '70s SS/DA Cuda - 12/16/22 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Qwik426
Originally Posted by Utah Joe
Anyway, I found this picture from what I believe is 1970....behind my dads mustang is what looks to me like a 1970 challenger....I cant read what it says on the door, but sure looks like a big Chrysler star on the side...and judging by the hood scoop...im guessing maybe its a pro stock, not a super stock car? I looked thru all 18 pages of this thread, but I didnt see this car

That's Jack Werst's 1971 'Cuda Pro Stocker.

[Linked Image]



Thats awesome!!! thank you...I have been looking at that picture for many years wondering whose car that was!
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