.528 Mopar Camshaft....

Posted By: STROKIE

.528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/18/10 12:01 AM

I rode a lot of excellent comment about this camshaft ,
In How to build Max-Performance MOPAR Big Block
By Andy Finkbeiner.
I would like to use it in my 451 cid.
As per Andy recommandation this camshaft work with
Magnum manifolds and 3 inches pipes with impressive results.
This cam is mechanical with big lash and noise�
With todays technology I�m curious to know if this cam can made
hydraulic with the same performance�

Posted By: AndyF

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/18/10 12:54 AM

Sure. If you look in the tech archives you'll find some dyno tests where I compared that cam to a similiar hyd cam.

Call Dwayne at Porter Racing Heads for a specific cam recommendation. He'll set you up with what you need.

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/18/10 01:17 AM

Thanks AndyF
I rode your book and I can say it's the best Mopar Performance literature for performance fans...

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/18/10 01:39 AM

good cam. I didn't like the factory lash so I went tighter. .020/.022 sounded much better. ran great in a 10.5:1 440-6

Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/18/10 02:26 AM

The 509 MP hyd wont touch it, which idles way more rough....It pulls 6-8 more inches in vacuum too..
I love that ole 528 Cam... Very good cam, pulls great, idles great. Sounds very much like a stock Hemi cam.

Posted By: bill_greenwood

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/18/10 06:34 AM

Had the 509 in my old 340, and have the 528 in my 360. The 509 would barely idle down to 1000 in gear, but I can idle the 528 down to 750, yet is way stronger all the way across the board. Nice stick. I'd like to duplicate the profile of my 528/1.6 rocker on a roller stick. Adding the faster action of the roller would probably get me my 10 sec time slip.

Posted By: quickd100

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/18/10 11:21 AM

The .528 definately makes more torque down low. My old truck was pulling the front wheels off the ground 6-8" leaving the line with that cam. The .509 ran strong too but not like that down low. Dave

Posted By: Valiant_Showoff

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/19/10 03:15 AM

the 528 is a great street/strip cam. Ran low 12's with it in my 360 Valiant. Perfect street manners and a TON of torque.

Posted By: davenc

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/19/10 05:05 PM

Andy,

It looks like that link to the cam test article is not correct anymore....looks like COMP cams has reorganized things. I also cannot find the article on Popular Hot Rodding. Are you aware of a good link that gets to this article? I rememeber reading it many years ago, and it is a great reference!

Dave

Posted By: topbrent

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/20/10 01:02 AM

Quote:

Andy,

It looks like that link to the cam test article is not correct anymore....looks like COMP cams has reorganized things. I also cannot find the article on Popular Hot Rodding. Are you aware of a good link that gets to this article? I rememeber reading it many years ago, and it is a great reference!

Dave

Comp has done something stupid with the cataloging of articles.

Here is the archived AndyF "Lobe-Ology" article:

http://web.archive.org/web/2006051208281...?ID=-1849542054

Posted By: davenc

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/20/10 01:30 AM

Fantastic! Thanks alot!!

Just curious, how did you find it?

Dave

Posted By: topbrent

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/20/10 02:01 AM

Quote:

Fantastic! Thanks alot!!

Just curious, how did you find it?

Dave

- In addition to looking at the CompCams page, I looked here: Moparts Tech Archive.

- This gave me the old URL to AndyF's "Lobe-ology" article, so I copied/pasted that older URL into the "WayBack machine" at www.archive.org .

- That pulled up the archived versions of the article.

Posted By: AndyF

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/20/10 05:01 AM

The articles are still on the Comp site, they just moved things around and broke the links. Now you have to find them manually because the link on Moparts just takes you to the main page. Typical internet stuff.

Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/20/10 06:50 AM

Quote:

Call Dwayne at Porter Racing Heads for a specific cam recommendation. He'll set you up with what you need.

Get a hold of Dwayne (fast68plymouth on here) and he can get you a custom grind cam in a hydraulic that matches the mp .528.

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/22/10 01:16 AM

Great News...
Actually my Charger 67
1/4 mile speed with
stock magnum cam and 2 1/4 exhaust
is 106.497 13.37 E/T
I wish with stock Magnum exhaust manifold
and 3.000 exhaust + .528 (hydraulic) gain some performance...
May be reaching the 12 second zone

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/22/10 12:13 PM

Quote:

Great News...
Actually my Charger 67
1/4 mile speed with
stock magnum cam and 2 1/4 exhaust
is 106.497 13.37 E/T
I wish with stock Magnum exhaust manifold
and 3.000 exhaust + .528 (hydraulic) gain some performance...
May be reaching the 12 second zone

what was done to the engine and heads to get 13.37 out of a stock cam? You should hit 12's.

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/22/10 01:35 PM

451cid.
Eddy Performer heads 10.5 cr
1.6 Crane roller rockers M1 Dual Plane Aluminum
750 Edelbrock
Stock Magnum exhaust
B&M 2500
The car is mostly stock except engine
3.23 Sure-Grip
Stock Radial tires

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/22/10 02:07 PM

Quote:

451cid.
Eddy Performer heads 10.5 cr
1.6 Crane roller rockers M1 Dual Plane Aluminum
750 Edelbrock
Stock Magnum exhaust
B&M 2500
The car is mostly stock except engine
3.23 Sure-Grip
Stock Radial tires

Dude you want 2 tenths get a HOLLEY on that thing. That is probably the worst carb made. I picked up 2 tenths with a rebuilt 20 year old 750DP on my old 67 coronet by swapping out the eddy 750. No other changes were made. I bet by cam change and carb change you'll pick up 1/2 second. BTW the 528 w/ the 1.6s will be more like 563. I'd go tight with the lash...something like .020/.022. I set mine by the cam card and it was too clacky for me. I tighten it up and it made a big difference and it pulled well from off idle to around 5500. Good street cam. You'll like it.

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/22/10 02:31 PM

Thanks for yor recommendations...
I will make those change in the winter and hope to be in the 12 second zone Unlawful's Fastest Car List

Posted By: BSB67

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/23/10 12:51 AM

Don't know what you've tried so far, but I think that with a different intake and carb, improved driving technique, you could get into the 12s without a cam or exhaust change.

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/23/10 02:07 PM

Quote:

Don't know what you've tried so far, but I think that with a different intake and carb, improved driving technique, you could get into the 12s without a cam or exhaust change.

The problem is I want to keep the engine look stock...
You realy have a very good number (11.68 @ 120.2 mph)
I use also 3.23 gear with 2500 B&M stall do you think I can have best time and e/t with a stock converter

Posted By: BSB67

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/24/10 12:35 AM

Nice looking!

I don't know the answer to your question about the converter. There are a few variables to consider.

First, if you are using a relatively small - true street tire, and you can spin the tire easily, it is difficult to get much improvement in the 60 ft time with a looser converter as the tire/suspension is the limiting factor, verses not being able to hit the tire hard enough because the converter is too tight. Second, inexpensive converters are sometime inefficient and the car can lose mph (and some et.) due to slippage. So overall, it is my opinion that it is possible that an inexpensive aftermarket converter could hurt performance in some applications verses a stock converter. I also believe that the right, high quality converter will always improve performance over a stock converter.

Also, based on experiance and considerable observation, any stock converter, 3.23/3.55 geared B body with a 440 at your power level, can get to a 2.0 60ft time with launch technique practice alone on a small pure street tire. To get much better than that will likely require some changes.

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/24/10 06:33 PM

I use stock tires P215 70 14.
Up to date my best 60 is 2.124 I'm pretty close to 2.0
I have stock converter at home from 67 383 4 barrels don't know the stall speed can be 1000 rpm
less than my B&M 2500
If I swith to .528 cam I don't know wich one to use

By the way nice engine too look stock

Attached picture 6214806-129..JPG

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/24/10 06:54 PM

I'd think the 2500 would work fine with the 528

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/24/10 09:43 PM

Quote:

I'd think the 2500 would work fine with the 528

Thanks
I look for the Comp cam hyd 5965 5985 very similar spec than .528 but hydraulic as per AndyF
Article this can rev to 7000 Rpm with the right stuff...
Can be very stimulating

Posted By: QuickSilver

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/24/10 11:36 PM

First off you have a great looking ride! Just happened to read this thread concerning the Mopar 528 camshaft and thought that I would add this about the torque converters. Actually if you can locate one of the factory high stall converter as used in the 1968 383HP road runner motors you might be better off. The '68 383HP torque converters are supposed to be actual street hemi units with higher stall listed to be around 2850. They are smaller diameter than other units and I could get around 2650 with one in my '67 Belvedere in a 440 with the 484 purple shaft. This info was found in a rather old Direct Connection manual. It might be worth looking into. Good Luck!

Posted By: BSB67

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/25/10 01:31 AM

Quote:

I use stock tires P215 70 14.
Up to date my best 60 is 2.124 I'm pretty close to 2.0
I have stock converter at home from 67 383 4 barrels don't know the stall speed can be 1000 rpm
less than my B&M 2500
If I swith to .528 cam I don't know wich one to use
By the way nice engine too look stock

Going from 2.124 to a 2.00 will take your 13.37 down to 13.13 to 13.19 with no other changes.

If you are not going to change your intake and carb, I would recommend that you consult with both Dwayne P. and Bob K. for a custom cam. You can do better than the 528. The intake and carb play a role in picking the best cam, not just the exhaust manifold.

Is your current cam an original, or an aftermarket repro? Do you know the exact specs like advertised duration, duration @ 0.050", and @ 0.200", lobe lift, LSA and centerline?

Your car runs really well now, i don't think big changes are needed. High 12.s will be easy.

Posted By: STROKIE

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/25/10 05:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I use stock tires P215 70 14.
Up to date my best 60 is 2.124 I'm pretty close to 2.0
I have stock converter at home from 67 383 4 barrels don't know the stall speed can be 1000 rpm
less than my B&M 2500
If I swith to .528 cam I don't know wich one to use
By the way nice engine too look stock

Going from 2.124 to a 2.00 will take your 13.37 down to 13.13 to 13.19 with no other changes.

If you are not going to change your intake and carb, I would recommend that you consult with both Dwayne P. and Bob K. for a custom cam. You can do better than the 528. The intake and carb play a role in picking the best cam, not just the exhaust manifold.

Is your current cam an original, or an aftermarket repro? Do you know the exact specs like advertised duration, duration @ 0.050", and @ 0.200", lobe lift, LSA and centerline?

Your car runs really well now, i don't think big changes are needed. High 12.s will be easy.

Actualy the cam installed is Mopar P/N P4452783 Hydraulic, 268/284 Adv. Duration
I don't know all the spec...

Posted By: Troy

Re: .528 Mopar Camshaft.... - 09/25/10 06:38 PM

I have been saying for years that is the best cam that Mopar Perf. ever had. I went 11:20 @ 120 in a 3300lbs Duster. That darn thing would pull to 6500RPM and idle at 15" of vacuum!!