those that made shims for the back spring hanger????

Posted By: earthmover

those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 03:13 AM

how thick did you end up useing back there????? i had some 1/2 spacers made and it help a little but its still not where i want it so im thinking of going to 1.5/2 and grade 8 bolts but dont know if thats to much

dont want to take a chance with breaking something cause i went to far....

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 03:59 AM

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how thick did you end up useing back there????? i had some 1/2 spacers made and it help a little but its still not where i want it so im thinking of going to 1.5/2 and grade 8 bolts but dont know if thats to much dont want to take a chance with breaking something cause i went to far....

No way would I go that far with a spacer... you would
be better off welding a new front hanger section on
EDIT
are you sure you have the right springs for the car
I never heard of anyone needing that much

Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 04:19 AM

I put around 3/8" spacers in front of my front hangers per your opinion mike and it moved the rear just like I wanted it to move.

Posted By: earthmover

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 04:26 AM

I have the 02/03 ss springs in my 70 duster . I'm not sure that I need that much but I know I need a little more then I have now I don't have the right angle and want to get it right. The little I did put help a lot but should be back just a little more. So mike you put yours in the front ill try that

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 04:30 AM

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I have the 02/03 ss springs in my 70 duster . I'm not sure that I need that much but I know I need a little more then I have now I don't have the right angle and want to get it right. The little I did put help a lot but should be back just a little more. So mike you put yours in the front ill try that

Where are you trying to put them?

EDIT
Also if you go that far EITHER WAY you WILL need a
new drive shaft

Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 04:32 AM

I have 002/003 SS springs too. I have not set the pinion angle yet but my rear was too close to the front 1/4 and I hated that. Mike(Raff) suggested that I put spacers in front of the hangers,my buddy made me some aluminum spacer and it worked!!!! Moved my rear back and now my tire looks more even in the 1/4.

Posted By: earthmover

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 04:51 AM

I put it behind the rear hanger to get the shackle angle right but would like a little more if possible . I have a little room to work with on my shaft so I ay be stuck with what I have. I thought I saw a post where someone used about 1inch or more but could be wrong it was open in the middle thanks guys mike

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 12:32 PM

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I put it behind the rear hanger to get the shackle angle right but would like a little more if possible . I have a little room to work with on my shaft so I ay be stuck with what I have. I thought I saw a post where someone used about 1inch or more but could be wrong it was open in the middle thanks guys mike

I thought you were trying to move the axle/tire rearward
so you would need to put a shim at the front spring
hanger... if you did this it would change the shackle
angle also

Posted By: Sixpak

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 12:53 PM

I made mine from 2 x 3 square tubing. Worked well, only I would not recommend using aftermarket hangers like those in the attached pic. Use the stock ones or weld the bolts to one side of the aftermarket hanger so it's stiff when bolted together, like a stock one.

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Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 02:20 PM

Mike(earthmover)...My bad!!! I thought you were asking about the FRONT hangers,not the backs. I have same problem with mine. My shackles were facing forward but when I put my spacers in front of the front hangers,my shackles are now straight up and down. Now I have to put a 2"x2" block in front of my BACK hangers to help the angle of the shackles.
THEN I need to set my pinion angle.

Posted By: earthmover

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 02:34 PM

so with the install of the back spacer you have to reset the pinion angle

i hope thats not the case..man i just went thought this ...but im going out in the shop in a few a see what i can come up with ..i want to go out to the loacal track tonight to see if i can get this thing back to where it atlease use to be

car has dropped off about 3 tenths for some odd reason...but im still tuneing

thats what i say when i have no idea of whats going on

thanks for the help guys ill see and post back what i find or do mike

Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 02:54 PM

Cool.

Posted By: vcummins

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 03:16 PM

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I made mine from 2 x 3 square tubing. Worked well, only I would not recommend using aftermarket hangers like those in the attached pic. Use the stock ones or weld the bolts to one side of the aftermarket hanger so it's stiff when bolted together, like a stock one.

WHAT THE FXXX IS THAT you must be from the south.

Posted By: Sixpak

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 05:37 PM

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I made mine from 2 x 3 square tubing. Worked well, only I would not recommend using aftermarket hangers like those in the attached pic. Use the stock ones or weld the bolts to one side of the aftermarket hanger so it's stiff when bolted together, like a stock one.

WHAT THE FXXX IS THAT you must be from the south.

Actually the northeast, and the car picked up 2 tenths with that little change alone when the chassis rise increased.
Got anything useful to add to this thread? How about a picture of YOUR solution, eh?

Posted By: Sixpak

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 05:40 PM

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so with the install of the back spacer you have to reset the pinion angle i hope thats not the case..man i just went thought this ...but im going out in the shop in a few a see what i can come up with ..i want to go out to the loacal track tonight to see if i can get this thing back to where it atlease use to be car has dropped off about 3 tenths for some odd reason...but im still tuneing thats what i say when i have no idea of whats going on thanks for the help guys ill see and post back what i find or do mike

With the increased rise of the chassis make sure your shocks are long enough; otherwise the chassis could do a 'bunny hop' when the shocks top out at the max of their extension travel. Mr Gasket used to sell shock extender brackets that effectively made the shocks a few inches longer, preventing them from topping out.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 06:17 PM

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so with the install of the back spacer you have to reset the pinion angle i hope thats not the case..man i just went thought this ...but im going out in the shop in a few a see what i can come up with ..i want to go out to the loacal track tonight to see if i can get this thing back to where it atlease use to be car has dropped off about 3 tenths for some odd reason...but im still tuneing thats what i say when i have no idea of whats going on thanks for the help guys ill see and post back what i find or do mike

You need to get that shackle angle correct... should
be leaning forward(top) about 30*... if it points
to the rear it will lift the diff as soon as it goes
straight with the spring

Posted By: vcummins

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 06:40 PM

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I made mine from 2 x 3 square tubing. Worked well, only I would not recommend using aftermarket hangers like those in the attached pic. Use the stock ones or weld the bolts to one side of the aftermarket hanger so it's stiff when bolted together, like a stock one.

WHAT THE FXXX IS THAT you must be from the south.

Actually the northeast, and the car picked up 2 tenths with that little change alone when the chassis rise increased.
Got anything useful to add to this thread? How about a picture of YOUR solution, eh?

Well I'm guessing I Would not get 2 tenths from that.

I would put the spring where it belongs if there is A tire clearance issue then stretch the 1/4.
If you don't want to do that move the rear end back on the perch and bush if needed to fit the pin on the spring. Or have the springs made with the pin moved back. shackle angel should be laid back in the stock location.

Lets not get some one killed hear

Posted By: earthmover

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 08:59 PM

hay now im from down south

anyway i saw it on here some where and i plan to add just a little more shim to my setup to help the angle because now it is just pass 12/6 oclock if that makes any sense to you guys...im gonna put maybe some 1" in there i think that will put me where i need to be and if i can get 2 tenths outta that hay for about 10.00 thats money well spent i think.....didnt have time to get them today car was at me this morn. when i went out to check it..go in the car start it up from the other night when i drove it and i see oil all over the floor wth line from the gauge leaking man..anyway got it fixed so im gonna try it as is tonight hope i can find my 3 tenths that i lost somewhere between here and the track....

so wish me luck

vcummins your a truck driver or something

love the way your car leaves i got a cummins in my dump truck

Posted By: Sixpak

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 10:14 PM

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I made mine from 2 x 3 square tubing. Worked well, only I would not recommend using aftermarket hangers like those in the attached pic. Use the stock ones or weld the bolts to one side of the aftermarket hanger so it's stiff when bolted together, like a stock one.

WHAT THE FXXX IS THAT you must be from the south.

Actually the northeast, and the car picked up 2 tenths with that little change alone when the chassis rise increased.
Got anything useful to add to this thread? How about a picture of YOUR solution, eh?

Well I'm guessing I Would not get 2 tenths from that.

I would put the spring where it belongs if there is A tire clearance issue then stretch the 1/4.
If you don't want to do that move the rear end back on the perch and bush if needed to fit the pin on the spring. Or have the springs made with the pin moved back. shackle angel should be laid back in the stock location.

Lets not get some one killed hear

He isn't talking about moving the spring back for tire clearance, he's talking about changing the angle of the rear spring hanger (back spring hanger) to get more rise out of the chassis. Right now his is pointing straight down (12/6 o clock). Shimming the rear hanger would point the shackle towards the back of the car, letting it swing in a greater arc and getting more rise out the chassis.

And no, unless they leave the bolts out or loose, no one's gonna get killed by adding my 'southern' looking but yankee engineered rear spring hanger shim...

Posted By: radar

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/27/10 10:45 PM

I'm from north of the mason dixon as well.
I did it to increase shackle angle. The effect on ride height was VERY minimal. The tires are still in the same place. No need to lengthen the driveshaft. 002, 003 here.

radar

Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER

Re: those that made shims for the back spring hanger???? - 08/28/10 12:06 AM

Mike(earthmover)....my shackles are postioned the same way,12/6.
Radars fix is PERFECT and I will be doing the exact same thing!!!!