Posted By: MoparPitBull
HEADS - 07/14/10 11:19 PM
511 in 3100 lb. a body INDY BIG EZ OR MAX WEDGE VICTORS,opinions please. 
HEADS
Posted By: QWK_ENUF
Re: HEADS - 07/14/10 11:31 PM
HUG 4950KMW
440 EZ HEADS ASSY W/ KIT MAX WDG
STK HEADS W/ VLVS, SPRNGS,VALLEY PLATE, P.RODS, INT GSKTS, HEAD BOLTS
$2305.00
Stock Heads W/ Vlvs, Sprngs,valley Plate, P.Rods, Int Gskts, Head Bolts
MAX WEDGE intake port size. Stock as delivered from INDY.
This is for a pair of heads and the kit.
The Indy 440 EZ head is an aluminum high performance/racing cylinder head that is direct replacement head for the OEM cast iron heads, that and all of the latest state-of-the-art port design technology. These cylinder heads will exceed the performance of any presently existing cylinder head that meets the stock head replacement criteria, and several that don't.
The EZ heads are designed for A body cars. They have stock low exhaust port location and bolt patterns. Most all standard exhaust headers will work. Like all INDY heads the EZ features the long valve design and cast aluminum valley plate.
FEATURES:
Long valve design
Stock exhaust port location
Stock pushrod location
Stock rocker arms
Stock rocker shaft oiling
2.19" X 1.81" valves
75c closed chambers
Can be ordered with 80cc open chambers
This kit includes the following items:
* 1 pair of assembled 440EZ heads
* Complete set of headbolts
* Valley plate (Indicate low deck or raised deck when ordering)
* Intake gasket facings
* Pushrod kit (unassembled)
Posted By: QWK_ENUF
Re: HEADS - 07/14/10 11:35 PM
HUG 4658K
EDEL M/W VICTOR HEADS WITH KIT
$1770.00
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HUG 1525S-16
1.6 RATIO VICTOR HEADS ROCKER KIT
INCLUDES ROCKER ARMS, SPACERS AND BANANA GROOVED SHAFTS
$595.00
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: HEADS - 07/14/10 11:39 PM
I just happen to know a guy here locally with a complete set of B1's for 2g's.
Rickster
Rickster
Posted By: MoparPitBull
Re: HEADS - 07/14/10 11:41 PM
too much to change on my motor.thanks anyway. 
Posted By: QWK_ENUF
Re: HEADS - 07/14/10 11:51 PM
indy EZ = 2305 bucks
MW victors = 2365 bucks and you have new rockers and shafts just use your springs,keepers,and retainers
MW VICTORS
all you need if you use your old shafts and ex rockers are 8 new intake rockers at 30 bucks a piece 8 x 30 = 240 bucks
victors now cost 2010 bucks vs 2305 for EZ
MW VICTORS
MW victors = 2365 bucks and you have new rockers and shafts just use your springs,keepers,and retainers
MW VICTORS
all you need if you use your old shafts and ex rockers are 8 new intake rockers at 30 bucks a piece 8 x 30 = 240 bucks
victors now cost 2010 bucks vs 2305 for EZ
MW VICTORS
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: HEADS - 07/15/10 02:45 PM
I am sincerely sorry for your head troubles. I'll make you a great deal on a set of B1-BS heads. They were recently rebuilt with new guides, new valves, new rockers and shafts and adjusters, retainers and locks, hold down hardware, several heli-coils replaced, comp. valve job, milled square and misc. unanticipated weld repair. But the're in great shape now and I'd believe anyone would stand behind them and the seller now. Shoot you can have them for what I have into them...my time is free. Let me know.
Posted By: BradH
Re: HEADS - 07/15/10 02:49 PM
Check how much room you have to raise your headers from their current position. EZs should be about the same as your current Bulldogs, but Victors will raise them 3/8", and B1-BS or other Indy options (SR, 440-1) will raise them about 3/4". 
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: HEADS - 07/15/10 02:54 PM
Quote:
...and B1-BS or other Indy options (SR, 440-1) will raise them about 3/4".
I wondered about this issue...Thanks for the post Brad.
Posted By: 68valiant68
Re: HEADS - 07/15/10 03:10 PM
-1's would be a great option, more room to grow later.
Posted By: marvo451
Re: HEADS - 07/15/10 03:20 PM
If you are using Pro Parts headers, the Victors fit like a glove on my low deck 451 with Victors.
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: HEADS - 07/15/10 04:36 PM
Quote:
I just happen to know a guy here locally with a complete set of B1's for 2g's.
Rickster
{{{{UPDATE}}}}
I've received quite a few PM's relating to these heads and wanted to post what the actual parts offered are from the horses mouth...they are not B1's...lol
Here's the list, if interested, give Dave a call, just trying to help out a fellow local racer:
Well as it turns out they ended up being Indy SR Heads, not B1's, they do come with:
Manley valves
Crane 1.5 Roller Rockers
Push Rods (spec unknown by me)
Indy Valve Covers
Comp Springs 800 Lift
Valley Tray w/oiling kit
ARP Head Studs (new)
Lifters (spec unknown by me)
Intake Manifold
The owner's Name is Dave 239-776-1107 give him a call if interested, just trying to help out a fellow racer here
Asking $$$$$ 2500.00
Rick
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: HEADS - 07/16/10 12:50 AM
Well I'll be danged if Dave didn't sign up on Moparts....7/11/2010 Crack me up, I was just browsing through the July parts 4-Sale and BAMN there are his SR Heads https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=3&vc=1
w/pics too....lol
Rickster
w/pics too....lol
Rickster
Posted By: Ari440
Re: HEADS - 07/16/10 12:54 AM
get 440-1s
I have indy sr,s and for the money I spent should have got the 440-1s to begin with
I have indy sr,s and for the money I spent should have got the 440-1s to begin with
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: HEADS - 07/16/10 01:40 AM
Any reason not to include the SR's? As far as money goes they might be cheaper when said and done. I see no advantage over the victor heads compared to the Indy SR's...NONE
Both can be made to flow similar numbers, the SR's use standard rocker arms, the Victors do not. The Victors might have some problems that would require extra work if they havent already re engineered them One being Poor rocker geometry when using a raised deck block.
If youi have used a newer World block you would see that pushrod clearance is a problem for sure. And these heads are known to have problem area's even with stock rb blocks... I couldnt imagine the trouble one would have with these using a 1.6 or 1.7 rocker arm and a World block. Which probably would work any how cause of the sucky installed height. This might not be a problem now, but you never know down the road you might want to use them on a RB, most of the after market blocks etc that are offered in large bores doesnt have a low deck version
Not as many options as rocker gear is concerned.
They have poor installed height. I was told to get 1.90+ was dang near impossible with these.
This presents a problem for me. Cause when I go roller with a engine, I dont fool around, and shoot for .800 lift+.
I think all these area's is why these heads arent very popular.
They should have offered some advantages over the Indy stuff instead of offering a inferior head.
Things like offering them in a 62-64 cc version, roomy installed heights etc might have helped there sells some.
I still think the stock block users building budget stroker engines in the 493-512 range really makes up a good size of the market now.
It would be nice to achieve 14-15:1 compression without cutting the crap out of the heads and just use a shelf flat top piston.
Both can be made to flow similar numbers, the SR's use standard rocker arms, the Victors do not. The Victors might have some problems that would require extra work if they havent already re engineered them One being Poor rocker geometry when using a raised deck block.
If youi have used a newer World block you would see that pushrod clearance is a problem for sure. And these heads are known to have problem area's even with stock rb blocks... I couldnt imagine the trouble one would have with these using a 1.6 or 1.7 rocker arm and a World block. Which probably would work any how cause of the sucky installed height. This might not be a problem now, but you never know down the road you might want to use them on a RB, most of the after market blocks etc that are offered in large bores doesnt have a low deck version
Not as many options as rocker gear is concerned.
They have poor installed height. I was told to get 1.90+ was dang near impossible with these.
This presents a problem for me. Cause when I go roller with a engine, I dont fool around, and shoot for .800 lift+.
I think all these area's is why these heads arent very popular.
They should have offered some advantages over the Indy stuff instead of offering a inferior head.
Things like offering them in a 62-64 cc version, roomy installed heights etc might have helped there sells some.
I still think the stock block users building budget stroker engines in the 493-512 range really makes up a good size of the market now.
It would be nice to achieve 14-15:1 compression without cutting the crap out of the heads and just use a shelf flat top piston.
Posted By: tboomer
Re: HEADS - 07/16/10 05:24 PM
What did ya decide,Jerry?? Saw ya on Pinks last night...Always enjoy the re-runs when one of our members are in it!!
Posted By: MoparPitBull
Re: HEADS - 07/16/10 06:12 PM
MW VICTORS
Posted By: 74-440Charger
Re: HEADS - 07/18/10 06:26 PM
I'm considering MW Victors on a RB also, wondering if the taller head will cause the valve cover to hit the power brake booster on a 74 Charger?