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F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record!
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 05/29/10 04:28 PM
At the Hemmings Musclepalooza F.A.S.T. race at Lebanon Valley, NY, Dave Dudek just ran 10.31 at 135! This tops his previous best of 10.34. I predict that before the event is ever, he will shatter the F.A.S.T. ET record of 10.30 set by Terry Penningtons L88 Crvette in '08.
Dave picked up alot of power over the winter, and after just a few passes on his new combo, we can see it is working!
Congrats Dave!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 04:32 PM
SWEET!
Give 'em "l" Dave!
Posted By: toplescuda
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 04:57 PM
so if its hidden (stock apearing) can any of these guys run some spray? not saying he is but whats to keep a person from doing it? is it legal?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 05:13 PM
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so if its hidden (stock apearing) can any of these guys run some spray? not saying he is but whats to keep a person from doing it? is it legal?
Nitrous is prohibited! IIRC, it's a lifetime ban from the series.
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 05:18 PM
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 05:23 PM
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Dave just ran 10.28 at 136.7mph!! A new F.A.S.T. record! 
Congrats to Dave.... I'm sure he's not done yet
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:00 PM
Congrats to Dave.
I bet he sees 137 before the event ends
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:06 PM
Lane Carey Mustang went 10.59, spinning the tire hard.
Air is at 3100'.
Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:13 PM
CONGRATS Dave!!!!!!
Posted By: Runner
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:14 PM
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Dave just ran 10.28 at 136.7mph!! A new F.A.S.T. record!
he sure gives us mopar guys something to be proud of!!
Posted By: dOc !
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:15 PM
GOOD show !
BTW ...what are the typical 60 footers?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:18 PM
Awesome, Dave........
Posted By: moparniac
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:22 PM
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Dave just ran 10.28 at 136.7mph!! A new F.A.S.T. record!
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Posted By: tboomer
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:24 PM
Awesome!!!
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:45 PM
Wow Dave....Seems like 9's aren't that far fetched!
*What the heck is in that Mustang? That's blazing for a Ford!
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 06:50 PM
Wow. Way to go Dave!
Sheldon
Posted By: 72demon416
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 07:10 PM
Way to go Dave! that is SIMPLY AWESOME!
My hat's off to Lane as well- that mustang is certainly no slouch and deserves some recognition as well
Rick
Posted By: ro23car
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 07:18 PM
good job to dave and jeff for their effort.
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 07:39 PM
Hard to believ that car sounds and idles like a stocker, but i guess it does. whats even more amazing is how he can do it on those tires..what are they, about 8" of tread?
WTG, Dave!
You are the man!
Posted By: Hemi Allstate
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 07:44 PM
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good job to dave and jeff for their effort.
X2
Posted By: BradH
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 08:25 PM
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Dave just ran 10.28 at 136.7mph!! A new F.A.S.T. record!
That's... simply... mind boggling.
Posted By: joshking440
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 08:28 PM
Thats huge mph for that ET
Posted By: tubtar
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 08:32 PM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
The expression " pulls like a draft horse " springs to mind.
That is amazing.
Well done.
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 08:44 PM
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Lane Carey Mustang went 10.59, spinning the tire hard.
Air is at 3100'.
Lane ended up the day at 10.35 @1 33.50
Wow
Posted By: Steve1118
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 08:58 PM
Absolutely incredible.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/29/10 09:14 PM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
They have to walk those cars out of the hole... they're
on those street tires which are of that era(dont know
if they do anything to them)
Posted By: 383man
383man - 05/29/10 09:33 PM
Yep thats all you can say is WOW !!! Congrats to Dave and Lane for the great runs.
Also who is this guy in a sweet white Firebird in the New Hemmings Muscle Machines mag that they said has run 10.50's ??? Ron
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: 383man - 05/29/10 09:35 PM
Ron,
that is Rick Mahoney...
I know he was going to be there, but I haven't seen anyone elses time yet
Posted By: 383man
383man - 05/29/10 09:39 PM
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Ron,
that is Rick Mahoney...
I know he was going to be there, but I haven't seen anyone elses time yet
That is a beautiful car and shocked me to hear it ran so good and I had not heard of it. I did not know there was a Pontiac in the 10's and he really banged the 10's hard. Ron
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: 383man - 05/29/10 10:14 PM
he is the guy with the aqua Ram Air II Pure Stocker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89LtzFMtnFM
Way to go Dave. Can't wait to see them run tomorrow
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 383man - 05/29/10 10:24 PM
Awesome! What are the temps/humidity there?!?
Posted By: Rapid340
Re: 383man - 05/29/10 11:51 PM
Nice Dave.
Hope I get my car back together for Martin and see some low ten passes in person.
Posted By: hemi-itis
Re: 383man - 05/30/10 12:13 AM
Absolutley INCREDEDIBLE!!!!!!!
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:25 AM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
They have to walk those cars out of the hole... they're
on those street tires which are of that era(dont know
if they do anything to them)
I think they may be a special compound(just need to look stock) But, Mike, what i wonder about are the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts..dang, how does he keep it under control??
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:34 AM
what kinda mustang is running that fast? Certainly a BOSS 429 isn't legal if a 68 426 dart isn't
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:36 AM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
They have to walk those cars out of the hole... they're
on those street tires which are of that era(dont know
if they do anything to them)
I think they may be a special compound(just need to look stock) But, Mike, what i wonder about are the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts..dang, how does he keep it under control??
I would imagine they just don't let the trans shift hard, probably a mild shifting valve body 
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:40 AM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
They have to walk those cars out of the hole... they're
on those street tires which are of that era(dont know
if they do anything to them)
I think they may be a special compound(just need to look stock) But, Mike, what i wonder about are the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts..dang, how does he keep it under control??
Yeah I've heard its compound or tractionized... and
if thats the case I'm sure it might spin a little
on the shift but not much... plus it might be in
the clutch.... I dont know anything about those FAST
cars and I give them credit
Posted By: HPMike
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:43 AM
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what kinda mustang is running that fast? Certainly a BOSS 429 isn't legal if a 68 426 dart isn't
It's a Cobra Jet wedge.
And by the way, I completely disagree with your statement. Comparing a Boss 429 to a SSHemi Dart is comparing apples to oranges. The Boss was sold as a street car in the same way Chrysler sold the street Hemi's. Heck, they(Boss's)even had smog pumps!
They are TOTALLY legal.
MB
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:44 AM
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what kinda mustang is running that fast? Certainly a BOSS 429 isn't legal if a 68 426 dart isn't
71 Mach 1 429 SCJ
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:47 AM
Wow, a wedge headed motor is running times like that?!?!
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 01:42 AM
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Wow, a wedge headed motor is running times like that?!?!
http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww80/...nt=100_3715.flv
yeap 
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 01:43 AM
The BOSS 429 cars were hand assembled race cars by Kar-Kraft not Ford.
Each vehicle was assigned a KK 429 "Nascar" production number.
Starting with KK-1201 running through KK-2558
I guess I see your point with the "factory" emmisions stuff but even the 426 darts and cudas had PCV valves
Posted By: cjfordman
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 02:34 AM
They built over 1300 69-70 Boss 429's all with exhuast manifolds warrantys and smog systems not just PCV's sold as street cars .Not drag only cars.
Posted By: cowbay
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 02:35 AM
way to go. Amazing
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 03:12 AM
Mind-blowing !! Congrats on the hard work.. I'll call or call next week.. Way to go..
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 04:07 AM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
They have to walk those cars out of the hole... they're
on those street tires which are of that era(dont know
if they do anything to them)
I think they may be a special compound(just need to look stock) But, Mike, what i wonder about are the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts..dang, how does he keep it under control??
Yeah I've heard its compound or tractionized... and
if thats the case I'm sure it might spin a little
on the shift but not much... plus it might be in
the clutch.... I dont know anything about those FAST
cars and I give them credit
Dave runs a G70-15 restoration bias ply redline. They are the same tires that anyone buys for a restoration from Coker tire: Gooyear polyglass or firestone wide oval.
From the FAST Rules: 14.03 Original equipment reproduction bias-ply tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind are allowed. Retread tires are not allowed.
http://www.fastraces.org/members/fastrac...f5!OpenDocument
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 04:31 AM
Dave and Joel I have been kicking around the idea of building a 65-66 valiant or cuda 273 4bbl but after re-reading the rules it says only a factory dual exhaust car? Even thought they were a performance oriented package they are not allowed? Not like they are going to steal Daves thunder but with the short wheel base and super light weight they could be fun for the first little ways down track and they could run the same tire correct?
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 04:34 AM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
They have to walk those cars out of the hole... they're
on those street tires which are of that era(dont know
if they do anything to them)
I think they may be a special compound(just need to look stock) But, Mike, what i wonder about are the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts..dang, how does he keep it under control??
Yeah I've heard its compound or tractionized... and
if thats the case I'm sure it might spin a little
on the shift but not much... plus it might be in
the clutch.... I dont know anything about those FAST
cars and I give them credit
Dave runs a G70-15 restoration bias ply redline. They are the same tires that anyone buys for a restoration from Coker tire: Gooyear polyglass or firestone wide oval.
From the FAST Rules: 14.03 Original equipment reproduction bias-ply tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind are allowed. Retread tires are not allowed.
http://www.fastraces.org/members/fastrac...f5!OpenDocument
OK, we stand corrected then, makes it really unbelievable now!..my gosh, how do you guys do it? Its magic! I know.. 
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 09:40 AM
Way to go Dave
, your car rocks!
Joey
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 10:41 AM
Posted By: HPMike
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 11:09 AM
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Wow, a wedge headed motor is running times like that?!?!
Nope, not yet, it's a Hemi...... 
Hey Wayne, he was talking about Lane's SCJ Mustang.
MB
Posted By: quickd100
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 11:28 AM
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Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:10 PM
Posted By: CRE2004
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 12:54 PM
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Wow Dave....Seems like 9's aren't that far fetched!
*What the heck is in that Mustang? That's blazing for a Ford!
I don't think the 9's are far fetched at all. But I also think that getting there will be a huge expense given what Dave has probably spent for an .06 gain. Each hundredth gain now is going to be pricey.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 01:03 PM
secret words,, must 'appear stock looking'
but still amazing!!
goes to show anything can be done,
ton ooo money spent to do what he's doing
Posted By: sogtx
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 02:08 PM
Congrats , Wish I was there
to celebrate . And learn .. Ill have both eyes for next year ..
Have fun and be safe if anyones reading ..
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 02:36 PM
I thought the Hemmings show was today?
Way to go Dave
Posted By: I_bleed_MOPAR
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 05/30/10 02:45 PM
Congrats, Dave.
Keep up the good (hard
) work.
Tim
Posted By: Twostick
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 03:41 PM
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Thats huge mph for that ET
They have to walk those cars out of the hole... they're
on those street tires which are of that era(dont know
if they do anything to them)
I asked one of the F.A.S.T. guys at Carlisle a couple of years ago when they were there if they had to walk them out and then get after it and he said they just dropped the hammer and it hooks or it don't. I watched them at the races on Fri nite and he wasn't kidding. The Coker repros looked like they were shaved to where they were almost bald in the center and he said that the compound wasn't "special" but it was softer than the Goodyear OEM stuff was. Likely because repro tires are made more to look at than to drive on and I'll bet that soft rubber is cheaper than hard rubber from a mfg point of view.
Kevin
Posted By: Streetwize
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 04:02 PM
Congrats Dave!!!
Dave has always been pushing the envelope and it's so cool to see the FAST cars not too far from knocking on the 9's
One of my biggest regrets was missing the invitation to drive the black RR when it was a red GTX
Posted By: Runner
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 05:08 PM
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Wow, a wedge headed motor is running times like that?!?!
Nope, not yet, it's a Hemi......
Hey Wayne, he was talking about Lane's SCJ Mustang.
MB
DOH!!!!! 
a 429 head isnt considered a wedge is it?
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 05:43 PM
They made Boss 429's (Semi-Hemi heads) and they made Wedge headed 429's. The once being discussed here is the wedge head 429. The SCJ 429 (wedge) engines are little known by non Ford guys but they were giant killers in stock form. I'm just shocked to see one do so well in a big Mustang, I mean that's right there with Dave's Hemi!
Posted By: Runner
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 06:50 PM
hey scott, wouldnt an scj head be a bigger version of a 460 head? do they consider a 460 head to be a wedge? cause in my way of thinking a 429-460 head dont have much in comon with a mopar wedge, fe ford head (wouldnt that be a wedge head) small block chevy or ford windsor head.
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 06:57 PM
I thought the CJ head had slightly splayed valves too..not like the Boss but more like a BB chev. But i very well could be mistaken.
I know the FE head is a straight inline valve head(like a BB mopar).
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 07:36 PM
Well I'm no Ford expert that's for sure, but IMO pretty much ANY late 60's early 70's non Hemi head is a "wedge" of sorts.
It's hard to imagine any non Hemi FAST engine making the power of Dave's near 800HP Hemi, must be something in thier launch techniques or other traction related deal that makes that Mustang run low 10's. I bet his 60 foot times are off the charts?
Posted By: Streetwize
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 07:40 PM
the 429 "semi-Hemi' is in seeral ways similar to a BBC or Cleveland ford, and as was typical with Fords they have good to very good intakes combined with borderline Horribly undersized exhausts. The FE 390-427, 428 was typical of a mid 50's design Wedge.
fords achilles heel from the factory was typically the intake manifolds, even their best head designs got whacked by intakes designed primarily to maximize hood clearance.
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:00 PM
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Wow, a wedge headed motor is running times like that?!?!
Nope, not yet, it's a Hemi......
Hey Wayne, he was talking about Lane's SCJ Mustang.
MB
The SCJ head does have slayed valves, just to clear up what i mentioned in a previous post. this is the Al. version. Like i thought they are not radically splayed but they are splayed. The Boss 429 is nearly as much a Hemi as the current 3rd gen hemi. I would'nt call it a porcupine head like BB chev, which, imho, looks more like the SCJ head.
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:01 PM
One thing about that ford is he could be running over 550 cubic inches in a 460 block and still be legal. Dave is less than 500 inches if I remember correctly. The heads he is running are more of a twisted wedge than a true wedge but they are more of a wedge than a hemi. Doesn't he have to run a 3310 style carb? That is amazing to me he is makeing that kinda power with that carb. Mabey he will let them do a motor tear down like dave did.
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:17 PM
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They made Boss 429's (Semi-Hemi heads) and they made Wedge headed 429's. The once being discussed here is the wedge head 429. The SCJ 429 (wedge) engines are little known by non Ford guys but they were giant killers in stock form. I'm just shocked to see one do so well in a big Mustang, I mean that's right there with Dave's Hemi!
Obviously not a stock Boss 429 but gives you an idea what they look like. I will post a pick of the chamber next.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 05/30/10 08:22 PM
Wow that is MOVING out. Good job!
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:36 PM
As far as I remember a Boss 429 had hemishperical heads.
I thought the SCJ had semi hemi heads. But I don't remember Fords that well.
I do remember a line in a late 70's or early 80's Hot Rod or one of the other performance car magazines.
At the end of the article the author wrote" When it comes to high performance street cars Ford never really did get it together" I agree.
Back in the day it was Mopar and Chevy on the street.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:41 PM
Boss 429 heads, look like a Mopar Hemi but have shallower chamber depths, a quenched area on either side of the chambers, and canted valves
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:42 PM
...............Which were often modified to make them more Hemi like by removing the quenched areas.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:44 PM
429 SCJ heads (originals on left, late model aftermarket versions on right) were (IMO) wedges by comparison.
This is a quote from Car Craft Magazine about these heads:
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The old iron head (left) as well as Ford’s previous aluminum CJ head have chambers that locate the valves close to the cylinder walls. The new heart-shaped, fast-burn SCJ chamber (right) has centrally located valves and repositioned spark plugs that are biased towards the exhaust side.
Posted By: ademon
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 08:46 PM
Wasn't the stock boss 429 like a 14.30's ET car & a 71 duster or demon a 14.40's ET acording to the 50 fastest list way back or something to that effect, i do remember the A-body was just behind it a tenth or less, FWIW , and for what the list is worth
Fords as a hole did seem to be way back in the pack behind even OLDS and Buick.
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 09:02 PM
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Wasn't the stock boss 429 like a 14.30's ET car & a 71 duster or demon a 14.40's ET acording to the 50 fastest list way back or something to that effect, i do remember the A-body was just behind it a tenth or less, FWIW , and for what the list is worth Fords as a hole did seem to be way back in the pack behind even OLDS and Buick.
14.30 sounds about right. The LS6 Chevelle and the Hemicuda were the quickest at 13.10 tested by magazine drivers.
I do remember something about a six pack roadrunner running 12.99 in one of these tests.
All these low 13 second cars would run well into the 12's with better tires.
The Fords needed a lot more than tires.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 09:24 PM
The stone stock Boss 429's were handicapped by having a tiny single 4 carburetor and restrictive exhaust manifolds to support those huge flowing heads, generally speaking they were pigs off the showroom floor. A bit of tweeking though and lookout! Easy 12 second cars with headers and a better carb/intake setup, I've driven one that looked very stock to the casual onlooker (missing smog equipment, better cam and internal blue printing, see pic of it below) and it was every bit as fast as the guys 70 Hemi Cuda in similar restored condition.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 09:25 PM
Car it was in
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 09:26 PM
Hemi Cuda I drove 5 minutes after getting out of the Mustang (restored/stock Hemi).
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 09:47 PM
Update: Dave just phoned, he went 10.18 at 136 with bad air and a headwind!
He's going 9's this fall, who would have thunk it?
Posted By: I_bleed_MOPAR
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 05/30/10 10:00 PM
Wow!!!
Keep it up, Dave.
Tim
Posted By: 1Fast340
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 10:01 PM
very impressive
Posted By: 69B3GT
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 10:12 PM
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Update: Dave just phoned, he went 10.18 at 136 with bad air and a headwind!
He's going 9's this fall, who would have thunk it?
Wow i just about fell outta the chair.
Nice work dave
Posted By: Bad340fish
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 10:16 PM
Any Vids?
Posted By: sogtx
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/30/10 10:34 PM
1o.18 amazing
Posted By: HemiDave
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/30/10 10:50 PM
Way ta go, Dave!!!
Dave
Posted By: rck850
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/30/10 10:54 PM
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1o.18 amazing
I agree! First time out with the new version of the motor! I can't help but think it isn't sorted out yet...
9's in a stock bodied, small tired car is SCAREY!
Do you get to a point where it really is just too scary/unsafe for these tires?
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 10:56 PM
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Boss 429 heads, look like a Mopar Hemi but have shallower chamber depths, a quenched area on either side of the chambers, and canted valves
Like I said, closer to the 3rd gen hemi than a BB chevy.
I have pix of them made into a "true" hemisphere, also.
Thd SCJ is almost a wedge..its really in-between a wedge and a semi-hemi like the BB Chev. I think it actually looks more like a polysphere 318!
Posted By: topside
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 11:14 PM
10.18 is beyond incredible, it's ridiculous! That has to be one of the most cleverly-built FAST cars on the planet.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 11:22 PM
Yea, Dave, you Da' Man!
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/30/10 11:28 PM
9's in a stock bodied, small tired car is SCAREY!
LOL... how would ANY of us know.... no ones been
there YET... but hopefully Dave will tell us....
GO FOR IT DAVE
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/30/10 11:33 PM
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9's in a stock bodied, small tired car is SCAREY!
LOL... how would ANY of us know.... no ones been
there YET... but hopefully Dave will tell us....
GO FOR IT DAVE
I'm just assuming since I've been in a 10.80's Buick T-type that was, for all the world, stock and grandma looking!
I can't imagine a FULL SECOND faster!!??!
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/30/10 11:40 PM
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9's in a stock bodied, small tired car is SCAREY!
LOL... how would ANY of us know.... no ones been
there YET... but hopefully Dave will tell us....
GO FOR IT DAVE
I'm just assuming since I've been in a 10.80's Buick T-type that was, for all the world, stock and grandma looking!
I can't imagine a FULL SECOND faster!!??!
No... I know what you were saying... and it might
be scarey... dont know................. yet
Posted By: mopardamo
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/30/10 11:56 PM
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10.18 is beyond incredible, it's ridiculous! That has to be one of the most cleverly-built FAST cars on the planet.
Holy CRAP Batman!
This is gonna be another great year. I'm a Dave cheerleader. Go Team Dave.
Damon
Posted By: 05dakota
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/30/10 11:59 PM
at what point will they not pass tech for the speeds/times they run?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/31/10 12:02 AM
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at what point will they not pass tech for the speeds/times they run?
... to me they are WELL past it... but if they
have to follow the stock lookin... what ya gonna do
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 05/31/10 12:11 AM
WOW!
10.18 is about as impressive as it gets!!!!
Congrats Dave!
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/31/10 12:40 AM
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at what point will they not pass tech for the speeds/times they run?
... to me they are WELL past it... but if they
have to follow the stock lookin... what ya gonna do
Do they even have a roll bar in the car?
Posted By: 05dakota
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/31/10 12:50 AM
yes they do. question should be at what point will tracks refuse to to let them run?
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 12:53 AM
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The stone stock Boss 429's were handicapped by having a tiny single 4 carburetor and restrictive exhaust manifolds to support those huge flowing heads, generally speaking they were pigs off the showroom floor. A bit of tweeking though and lookout! Easy 12 second cars with headers and a better carb/intake setup, I've driven one that looked very stock to the casual onlooker (missing smog equipment, better cam and internal blue printing, see pic of it below) and it was every bit as fast as the guys 70 Hemi Cuda in similar restored condition.
That motor is shoe horned in there. There is one that comes to our local cruise nights. The owner is really cocky. He has additional under hood supports in the front of the engine bay in addtion to the rear supports.
I have a hemi cuda and It is a pain to get the valve covers off and adjust the valves.
I ask him if it is a pain to adjust the valves. He says no he can get the valve covers off which includes removing these four braces and taking the master cylinder loose and pivoting it to the right removing all spark plugs and set the valves and have it back ready to run in an hour.
He is also sure the car would run in the 10's but he won't run it at the track.
He is perfect for the cruise night crowd.
Posted By: ademon
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 12:57 AM
Whats the speed rating on the tires they run? Great job Dave!
Posted By: Runner
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 01:02 AM
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Update: Dave just phoned, he went 10.18 at 136 with bad air and a headwind!
He's going 9's this fall, who would have thunk it?
wow
Posted By: TonyS451
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 01:03 AM
I remember being completely floored when he ran low 11's in the Challenger. 10.18 is just crazy fast!!! Great job, Dave
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 01:08 AM
What was the horsepower on Daves hemi again?
Posted By: Runner
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 01:15 AM
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What was the horsepower on Daves hemi again?
i believe it was a hair under 800, ya know just like they rolled off the show room floor
Posted By: 72demon416
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 02:44 AM
Only Dave will ever know how much money it's cost to get this far but I bet when that 9 sec pass drops it will all be worthwhile.
Go man go! I'm sure the Mopar community worldwide is root'in for ya!
Posted By: 408strokerdart
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 03:11 AM
10.18 is amazing.
I will sell my "race" car when he goes faster than I'm going with race only parts.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 04:08 AM
Also Dave....Congrats on this one too!
"Hemmings $1,000.00 Bounty for breaking F.A.S.T. ET Record!"
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH rec - 05/31/10 04:12 AM
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at what point will they not pass tech for the speeds/times they run?
leave it to ted ...
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 04:15 AM
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Whats the speed rating on the tires they run? Great job Dave!
How fast does one drive on and off a trailer ? The repop bias plies have no speed rating .
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 05:41 AM
I was there. What an incredible feat.
These types of classes are bringing back the fun and drive in Drag Racing.
If only Nascar was listening.
Posted By: Ray440
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 05:55 AM
Here's a couple of pics from today during time trials, On this run Dave's Road Runner goes [Email]10.25@135[/Email] mph against the Mustang's 10.34.
Posted By: Ray440
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 05:58 AM
Posted By: VanishPt
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 03:25 PM
Master Dave
, what would you say is the "down the track" weight of the RR?
With the Other guys running lighter weight cars,
do you see a model change in the future ( same motor --of course
)
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 03:34 PM
I think the weight issue is a toss up. There may be lighter models out there but then you may lose the weight transfer properties that the long B-bodies enjoy. I think that Roadrunner is probably the best combo for stable operation at those speeds.
I actually asked Dave yesterday about future concerns of the tires within those speeds and NHRA rules wedging their way in. So far no questions being addressed.
It's going to be interesting.
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 03:48 PM
didn't Dave switch from the Challenger to the Road Runner for that very reason ?
Posted By: fullmetaljacket
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek runs new best - 05/31/10 03:57 PM
Yes, I believe so. The over hang of the B-body aided the transfer much better much like a Chevrolet Nova over a shorter Camaro.
Posted By: 383man
383man - 05/31/10 04:46 PM
Holy crap 10.18 !!!!
Unbelievable and a big congrats Dave.
Ron
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 05:02 PM
Posted By: ademon
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 05:16 PM
The mustang came with those wide rears when new?
Am I seeing things or does that Mustang appear to have some non original tie rods? Stock suspension parts are the only parts allowed right?
Posted By: ademon
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 05:22 PM
I see that to, but do you have to run the stock tire size? those rears seem wide, but i'm no expert i was just a baby when these cars were new.
Posted By: Rapid340
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 05:30 PM
I am not a FORD fan but that is one nice F.A.S.T. launch picture.
The tire rules are posted on the FAST site, I believe he's within them with those tires. Funny side note, when I was in High School in Vacouver Washington (1981) I had a stock 318 auto gold Duster, there was an IDENTICAL looking red 1971 Mach1 Mustang accross the street, it was bone stock and owned by the mother of a guy I went to school with, it had a 351 and an automatic, he'd take it out all the time when his 69 Mach1 was broken (often). True story, we raced a few times and I beat that thing (by a couple fenders) with my Duster! It would do awesome burnouts but was a slug in a race.
*Jeff, what do you think about the Mustang suspension?
Starting with a disclaimer of being a visual artist myself and not to blatantly discredit my Mans Mustang approach, but he had the high tech fuel pumps and fuel cell in plain view once the trunk was opened. I was not feeling that because it kind of threw the wrench into the visual fantasy that these cars are stock by appearance.
I still was shocked at his persistent knock on the Hemi's door, ET wise.
I thought that over all, the cars would have to look stock as from the show room floor and I gather that most do, but this one was confusing me as to the looks. I could be foul on my thoughts but,I mean there are cars there that have all that stuff on board but there is a concerted effort to keep it covert. I guess some one can mention in defense that once the trunk lid is closed, it's STOCK appearing.
I hung out with Tom, Harry and Dwayne Porter in the trailers and had a blast talking shop and politics. Great guys with a lot of knowledge.
I love these cars and the Family feel. At the end of the day, it is a magic Art to make those things hook and scoot the mail on those tire size and compound limitations. I especially give a salute to the very few STICK drivers in the field.
Very nice....
Get that thing to ATCO on a "good air" night and lets see the number.
Yea, I too am impressed that the Mustang made such an awesome run, but the slight visual clues I see in those pics made me wonder if he went though the same pains as some of the others went through in keeping everything looking stock appearing (see Dave's hidden fuel cell-lots of work!). Maybe the Mustang would have trouble passing a technical inspection if called on the carpet after making such a run? I think it should have been inspected if it wasn't. I'd hate to see the FAST cars begin to look like retired Stock Eliminator cars (fuel cells, etc.) with a fresh paint job and some stock wheels and tires to make them look "Stock" on the outside only.
Posted By: moparniac
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 06:02 PM
Hope I did not start a witch hunt. LOL.
Serious, I'm impressed with all the makes, but crucial to my Pentastar loyalty.
Posted By: DaveDudek
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 06:26 PM
THANKS Everybody!!! Just got home from the long drive back, I had a great time and it was nice meeting everybody. I have to give most of the credit to Jeff at Modern Clyinder Head for the ET improvement. He pushed me into a piston design that paid-off very nice.
Lots of guy asked me who does my machine work, Automotive Machine in Fraser, Mi.
BIG "thumbs up" to Lane Carey in his Mustang, she`s FAST and she`s gonna be faster.
That bad boy kept me on my toes and he`s just a great guy to boot... We pitted right next to each other and talked smack the whole time, it was great.
Our Martin race is gonna be killer this year! Big thanks to Hemmings for the $1000 "record breaking" bounty check.
Here`s my ET`s for weekend:
10.31
10.34
10.28
10.25
10.25
10.18 and mph`s were high 135`s and mid 136`s. First time out with new engine....
So Dave, I'm sure you know so I gotta ask, is Lane's Mustang running legal? I know the deal is that you can "run what ya brung" and don't have to pass any pre-race (FAST Legal) tech, and that typically you only get inspected if you run a big number or someone calls you out. So what's the story with that Mustang? If that thing is running legal, holy smokes! How did he do it?
Posted By: moparniac
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 06:33 PM
Dave update your sig
Posted By: ZIPPY
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 05/31/10 06:50 PM
Absolutely amazing. All that horsepower disguised so well is one thing....but I can't imagine the level of finesse required to get something like that off the line.
Posted By: Streetwize
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 05/31/10 07:25 PM
Looks like a great race, glad to see all the major brands now are in the hunt
Parity is what will keep EVERYBODY interested in F.A.S.T.
I'm really digging the Mustang, looks just like the one Sean Connery drove in the 007 Diamonds are Forever flick!
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Yea, I too am impressed that the Mustang made such an awesome run, but the slight visual clues I see in those pics made me wonder if he went though the same pains as some of the others went through in keeping everything looking stock appearing (see Dave's hidden fuel cell-lots of work!). Maybe the Mustang would have trouble passing a technical inspection if called on the carpet after making such a run? I think it should have been inspected if it wasn't. I'd hate to see the FAST cars begin to look like retired Stock Eliminator cars (fuel cells, etc.) with a fresh paint job and some stock wheels and tires to make them look "Stock" on the outside only.
http://www.runboard.com/bfastracingmessageboard.t612
any videos of these cars running? or will they be uploaded on their youtube page?
Thanks Pettyblue....Still seems unfair to the guys that want to keep them looking original (even in the trunk) Oh well, it is what it is I guess.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 08:19 PM
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So Dave, I'm sure you know so I gotta ask, is Lane's Mustang running legal? I know the deal is that you can "run what ya brung" and don't have to pass any pre-race (FAST Legal) tech, and that typically you only get inspected if you run a big number or someone calls you out. So what's the story with that Mustang? If that thing is running legal, holy smokes! How did he do it?
Scott , my understanding is once you pass 11.70 you get looked at closely for casting numbers and such , but also that there is a tech of sorts , there are a few things that that car seems to have that should be corrected , some things are allowed to slide in the name of SAFETY , like WILWOOD brakes ...
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Re: 383man - 05/31/10 08:22 PM
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Yea, I too am impressed that the Mustang made such an awesome run, but the slight visual clues I see in those pics made me wonder if he went though the same pains as some of the others went through in keeping everything looking stock appearing (see Dave's hidden fuel cell-lots of work!). Maybe the Mustang would have trouble passing a technical inspection if called on the carpet after making such a run? I think it should have been inspected if it wasn't. I'd hate to see the FAST cars begin to look like retired Stock Eliminator cars (fuel cells, etc.) with a fresh paint job and some stock wheels and tires to make them look "Stock" on the outside only.
http://www.runboard.com/bfastracingmessageboard.t612
Moved to the PRIVATE forum ... nothing to see here , move along ...
Posted By: cjfordman
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 08:43 PM
They are a bump steer kit.
Did they come stock with a bump steer kit? Anything else that's not factory appearing under there?
Posted By: cjfordman
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 08:57 PM
Why don't you quit making trouble and whinning about them not being stock in the trunk he passed tech with the bumpsteer kit.The trunk is where many of the racers put there non stock looking pieces.It not a concours show its a race and cars dont run 10's stock,A show car is lucky to run 12's
Who's whining? Just asking questions. Did it pass safety tech or the FAST legal tech?
Posted By: cjfordman
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 09:20 PM
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Who's whining? Just asking questions. Did it pass safety tech or the FAST legal tech?
It passed both techs valve cover off ,carb off ,casting #s corect just like Dave did.
That's great! That's all I was asking. Very impressive!
Posted By: HPMike
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 10:12 PM
I agree with Steve(cjfordman). I missed Musclepalooza, but I had a chance to see Lane's car at several of last years events and was VERY impressed. Anyone who finds fault with it from an appearance standpoint needs to get their eyes checked. It's every bit as legit as anyone else that is running.
Then again, what do I know. Congratulations Dave!
Sorry I missed you out there.
MB
HP, agree with what? No need to take sides, I didn't form an opinion of the car, I simply asked some (IMO quite legitamate) questions concerning how it accomplished such a quick time all the while staying legal. Yes, I also questioned the fuel cell mentioned by another poster, and the obviously non original tie rods that made one wonder what else might be unique about his suspension.
Concerning the comment about me "Starting Trouble", well if there's nothing wrong, then there's no "trouble", where's the crime in making a simple observation or asking questions? Seems more like someone is being overly sensitive about my questions, guilty conscience perhaps?
Posted By: cjfordman
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 10:46 PM
Concerning the comment about me "Starting Trouble", well if there's nothing wrong, then there's no "trouble", where's the crime in making a simple observation or asking questions? Seems more like someone is being overly sensitive about my questions, guilty conscience perhaps?
There you go trying to stir things again .You don't know what your talking about on this FAST racing I know all the racers and have a car also.You think the Ford is cheating for running so fast but never say anything about the hemi.Well they are both legal as well as the other cars.Only a couple GM cars have been caught cheating.
First of all you need to relax. Yes, THIS time I meant to do a little tonque in cheek
but it was all in good fun. You are preaching Fords on a Mopar site, you will need thicker skin than you are displaying at the moment. Who'd question that Ford running with a Hemi? Oh I don't know, maybe
EVERYBODY? ......As to what I know or don't know, well that's debatable
, but I've been following FAST since it's inception, I didn't just get interested while reading this thread this morning, we likely know quite a few of the same people.
Posted By: 383man
383man - 05/31/10 11:13 PM
I think its great to see a Ford in the thick of it challenging the top guns. I mean we have a Ford , GM and of course Dave's awesome Hemi all running 10.30's or better. This is like the Pro Stock wars of 1970 and its good to see. I gotta say that Mustang is one sweet machine and you have to like how well Lane has it running. But it sure is good to see Dave's sweet Runner kicking butt and in the #1 spot.
Ron
Posted By: ademon
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 11:33 PM
ok read the rules closely and you can up size the tire. Nice Ford, but the Hemis the one to beat.
Posted By: toplescuda
Re: 383man - 05/31/10 11:59 PM
well to me what is the differance in it not being stock looking under the trunk lid and it being stock looking under the hood? by that reasoning i guiess every one can put there battrys and other ballase weight in the trunk for weight and for everyone to see? and just a plastic shell under the hood
Sounds like the streets all over again. Your average Hemi out of the box show room ran just that, average, but a well tuned HEMI set on kill was the one to beat.
I personally like that the class has a bunch of makes gunning to fasten their flag on mount F.A.S.T.
That Mustang is on patrol to win the hearts and minds of many, but we're sleeping on the GM boyz at the moment. I suspect they are watching and wrenching in a dark garage with an eye for the prize. Has any one heard of the L88 or Zl's where abouts lately?
I love it, though my money will always be on that Black car. Sorry I am bias, but I love cars that are any color as long as they are BLACK LOL.
I loved and respected that Pesky Ford, shoooo, it sounded darn nasty when idling in the pits.
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I loved and respected that Pesky Ford, shoooo, it sounded darn nasty when idling in the pits.
Oh really? 
Aren't they supposed to sound "stock"
Posted By: DaveDudek
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 02:21 AM
The Mustang passed the most through FAST mandatory tech we ever did.
Nothing major was found!
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Did they come stock with a bump steer kit? Anything else that's not factory appearing under there?
To be honest I think the Mustang is KILLER, along with the awesome times, but I kinda take exception to a "bump steer" kit on the car if it is SUPPOSED to look "factory correct".
The problem being (as I found out a few moons ago) that there are certain "interpretations" allowed.
I wish the Mustang owner would try stock looking tierods and see if it really does affect his times, cause if it truly looked all stock there would be nothing to "whine" about as some say.
And where is Wayne and his Mustang? I miss Wayne, he was a cool guy, even if he WAS driving a Chevy...
The guy with the red Mustang owns Waynes Mustang now
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The guy with the red Mustang owns Waynes Mustang now
Wellll sonofa....
What happened to Wayne? Is he building something, or did he move to another vehicle, or?
Posted By: DonnyBrass
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 03:09 AM
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The guy with the red Mustang owns Waynes Mustang now
Wellll sonofa....
What happened to Wayne? Is he building something, or did he move to another vehicle, or?
Wayne is shopping for something Pure Stock, he'll be there this year in a 427 tri power Vette loaner.......
Dave, I think you need to update your winningest ET-MPH proclamation.
While you're at it, just jump skip to a 9.99 ET cause we know it's in the cards.
All the best.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 03:41 AM
Honestly, if a bump steer kit helps him be safe in the mid to low 10 second zone, who cares!?!
Would you rather him take out a himself and even a competitor if the car got squirrley down track?!?
At the MOST I might suggest Kryloning them flat black to hide them a bit more and being done with it!
All of this is just mental masturbation on our parts if we're not part of the F.A.S.T. series tech anyway...
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The Mustang passed the most through FAST mandatory tech we ever did. Nothing major was found!
Glad to hear it Dave......That's all I wanted to know. That is one heck of a fast Mustang! to the builder!
Posted By: ademon
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 06:12 AM
I'm going to have to check out the Martin race, way cool !! you going Scott?
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Posted By: Dave Watt
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 01:56 PM
The Martin race is always awesome. If you haven't been before, you don't know what you're missing. FAST and Factory Stock both put on a great show.
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The Mustang passed the most through FAST mandatory tech we ever did. Nothing major was found!
WOW!!!
Serious stuff going on in this pic. I guess they aren't fooling around with the cam & valvetrain......or anything else I'd gather.
Posted By: 67Satty
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 03:05 PM
Congrats on the low 10s!
A question for the F.A.S.T. guys about their tires. Maybe it's a dumb question but are you guys soaking them in some kind of traction compound? If so, care to divulge which brand, how long?
I think it would be cool for some of us with street/strip weekend warrior/cruise night cars to start applying some of the F.A.S.T. tricks and techniques to our cars. Thanks!
Awesome Job Dave! I'm sure we will see a 9 before seasons end.
Posted By: ccdave
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 05:28 PM
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The Mustang passed the most through FAST mandatory tech we ever did. Nothing major was found!
Just curious, who techs Daves car at the F.A.S.T. events?
Posted By: F1Scamp
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 06:00 PM
Just curious, who techs Daves car at the F.A.S.T. events?
Greg Gessler, Lane, Tom C. and few others I believe were there when Dave torn his car apart.
Why do you ask?
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 06:30 PM
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Just curious, who techs Daves car at the F.A.S.T. events?
Greg Gessler, Lane, Tom C. and few others I believe were there when Dave torn his car apart.
Why do you ask?
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What is the weight on the Road Runner with driver?
Posted By: DaveDudek
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 07:47 PM
Between 3680lbs and 3720lbs depending on a few different things... Unless the track is slippery than it might go up another 150lbs or so.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 08:03 PM
Hey Dave arn't you at work??????????????????????????
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Between 3680lbs and 3720lbs depending on a few different things... Unless the track is slippery than it might go up another 150lbs or so.
Congrats....
That is really moving in that air. Or any air for that matter.
Posted By: DaveDudek
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 11:47 PM
Yea I'm at work logging on with my blackberry..
Posted By: 67Satty
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 11:47 PM
So are the tires run as purchased or???
Posted By: F1Scamp
Re: 383man - 06/01/10 11:58 PM
Yes. They work better the more "heat cycles" they get. Mine still had reminance of the stickers on them and I went 1.74 a couple times on the new combo.
We tried some tire softner crap with the poly's on the AAR. Didn't do a damn thing for them other than make them smell horrible when heated.
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So are the tires run as purchased or???
I'm sure there is some type of tire prep.
Posted By: 67Satty
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 12:02 AM
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Yes. They work better the more "heat cycles" they get. Mine still had reminance of the stickers on them and I went 1.74 a couple times on the new combo.
We tried some tire softner crap with the poly's on the AAR. Didn't do a damn thing for them other than make them smell horrible when heated.
Cool! Thanks. What kind of pressure?
I'm thinking about getting some L60s or G60s instead of drag radials for my street/strip car.
Posted By: Runner
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 12:08 AM
what do the faster cars sound like at idle? does it sound like a race car, street car or stockish?
Posted By: F1Scamp
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 12:13 AM
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what do the faster cars sound like at idle? does it sound like a race car, street car or stockish?
I went 1.74 in the duster with 32psi g70-14, so far. There is much more in the car when straightened out.
I went 1.71 in the AAR with 23psi g60-15.
They may not sound exactly "stock" but I will garuntee they are the quietest, least lopey, 10, 11, 12, 13 second cars out there by far.
It would be cool to print a F.A.S.T manifesto with a semi menu of tricks from the top ten cars.
This movement deserves it own full magazine feature story.
I can see it now,
"How to run F.A.S.T and stay married"
By Al Kirschenbaum and Tony Defeo with photos by FMJ and Hemi-itis.
Posted By: 493_DART
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 07:07 AM
i noticed in that in -car video , the reverse manual valve body ,
and the car leaves soft..pretty much like a near stock set up ...obviously to keep it from boiling those bias tires . pretty cool
but how are they not spinning the tires after the car is out of the gate?
I love these cars--wish i had the $$$ to get into this class
Posted By: DaveDudek
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 11:33 AM
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The Mustang passed the most through FAST mandatory tech we ever did. Nothing major was found!
Just curious, who techs Daves car at the F.A.S.T. events?
Here`s who tech`s my car: Pictures of RoadRunner TECH
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 11:42 AM
How awesome is that
congrats Dave
that should put the rumors to rest.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 01:44 PM
Very cool Dave... CONGRATS on your new passes
Posted By: ccdave
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 04:32 PM
Wow Dave!! Cudos to you for pulling your motor apart just to quench the rumor mill
I would have kept them guessing
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 04:56 PM
Awesome job Dave!
Posted By: ZIPPY
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 06:18 PM
I guess everyone remembers the megablock but not the other one....yep, it's OEM stock all right
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: F.A.S.T. Breaking News! Dudek shatters ET & MPH record! - 06/02/10 06:31 PM
Incredible feat for sure..........that mph is AWESOME.
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: 383man - 06/02/10 06:35 PM
Dave, way to go buddy. Congrats on the hard and tedious work. Squeezing what you do out of your car is amazing. Your work is well-appreciated. Love the videos. Team FireCore50's Flagship F.A.S.T. car, plus it could compete and win any neighborhood car show.. Congrats, Dave.
Posted By: F1Scamp
Re: 383man - 06/03/10 11:52 AM
Lets see if this works.
Dave's 10.18 run.
Thanks for posting that F1- Freakin awesome Dave!
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: 383man - 06/05/10 03:12 AM
That mustang looks like a handfull off the line
Posted By: MRVCODE
Re: 383man - 06/05/10 04:21 AM
Holy Mother of God!!!.....10:18!! That's unbelievable. Dudek, well done.
