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W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!!

Posted By: DemonDust

W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 11/28/07 05:46 PM

Ok guys I got quotes on header flanges.

3/8" $25/piece

1/2" $30/piece

These will have 1 7/8" primary holes.

Since I have to order a large quantity to get these prices I need to know if these prices will suit you guys. Schoenfeld sells them for 24.95 for 1/4" thick. I will also be only ordering one thickness.

Let me know what thickness you guys need. And I'll get the order in.

Not sure on the complete headers yet. The company that will be doing the tube bending is unsure if they want to do a small job like this. And I really don't want to cut all my own bends out of u and j bends. Very time consuming.

I'm leaning more toward the 1/2".

If I could get a rough estimate on numbers that would be great. I want honest numbers not guys saying I'll take a set then comes time to buy them and oh I don't want them.
Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 06:22 PM

For that price, anyone who owns a set of W8/9 heads should be buying a set of 1/2's....

I sent you a PM.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 06:29 PM

Quote:

For that price, anyone who owns a set of W8/9 heads should be buying a set of 1/2's....






I thought it was a good price. If I can get more people interested they could be even cheaper. The more pieces the cheaper they get.
Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 07:28 PM

& Anyone interested in W9RP 1/2" header flanges PM me..... Only need one more person & I'll have enough to do minimum run.
Posted By: MoparSprinter360

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 08:13 PM

Ryan - have you dealt with Zemco Headers over there in PA?
Posted By: catman408

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 08:14 PM

i'll take a set please let me know where and how to pay you ok

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Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 09:20 PM

Quote:

i'll take a set please let me know where and how to pay you ok




You looking for W9 or W9RP?

I'm thinking money orders. Paypal costs too much and I'd have to charge you guys xtra to pay by paypal otherwise I'll lose money.

If anyone feels the need to pay by paypal you'll have to add 3% to the total with shipping.
Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 10:06 PM

Quote:

Ryan - have you dealt with Zemco Headers over there in PA?




I've seen alot of Zemco stuff at Rider's where we dyno at, Rider's builds Zemco's 410 Motors.... Their stuff looks very nice. Kaliher does most everyones custom drag stuff around this part of PA.

My W9RP turbo headers are being done by a local in State College.
Posted By: Leon441

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 10:50 PM

I am not in this deal but after building some headers I would rather use 3/8 flanges. The reason it takes less heat in the flange to weld the thin tube to it. The main reason is some cars are quite difficult to fit and the thicker the flange the more chance you have to weld in closer clearances. Like I said not in on this and there are plusses to thick flanges in cars with plenty of room.

Leon
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 11:04 PM

One set for me 1/2"
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/28/07 11:15 PM

To make this easier for me to keep track. Everyone that wants a set of the 1/2" please PM or email your name and address and I will in return PM or email you my name and address to mail your money orders to. Shipping will be calculated by your zip code.
Posted By: dizuster

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 01:35 AM

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Schoenfeld sells them for 24.95 for 1/4" thick.




Not knocking you at all, but for $24.95 they are already stubbed and machined with the primarys for that cost. You're just talking about making the laser cut blanks with no primary tube stubs right?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:03 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Schoenfeld sells them for 24.95 for 1/4" thick.




Not knocking you at all, but for $24.95 they are already stubbed and machined with the primarys for that cost. You're just talking about making the laser cut blanks with no primary tube stubs right?




No they are not. They are blank flanges! You better check your resources.

Check for yourself

http://www.schoenfeldheaders.com/mflanges.htm
Posted By: dizuster

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:12 AM

Yeah my resources are that I'm an idiot. . .

I don't know where I got that idea from, sorry not like me to post without checking. . .
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:24 AM

Quote:

Yeah my resources are that I'm an idiot. . .






I wouldn't go that far. I did the research on this stuff. I'm not trying to rip anyone off. I had a hard enough time learning about all the wedge 5,7,8,9 stuff myself. The least I can do is use what little knowledge I do have and help the guys that don't have the resources.

Just like you posted about header primary length. Thanks for that info I had no idea. But I think it would be impossible to squeeze all 4 2" tubes through that small area so that tube has to be longer.
Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:34 AM

Is there a difference in the std W9 and W9rp ex. flanges?
I've got my eye on a set of non rp heads,and I think I would want 3/8".FWIW
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:57 AM

Quote:

Is there a difference in the std W9 and W9rp ex. flanges?
I've got my eye on a set of non rp heads,and I think I would want 3/8".FWIW




Yes there is actually quite a difference they won't inner change.

W9


W9RP


If there is enough interest in 3/8" flanges I could do a run of them but more people want 1/2". So the run of 3/8" might cost a little more.
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 03:01 AM

You know I was just going to ask how you were going to make the flanges, In three pieces or one piece. The 1/2" will grow at different rates than the aluminum heads. sometimes they will shear off the bolts if not given enough room to expand
Posted By: Plumb Wired

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 03:04 AM

I got my W8 flanges from SPD, www.spdexhaust.com
Available for most all SB Mopar heads in mild steel or stainless, 3/8" or 1/2" thick. Very nice pieces!

Mike Gray
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 03:05 AM

Quote:

You know I was just going to ask how you were going to make the flanges, In three pieces or one piece. The 1/2" will grow at different rates than the aluminum heads. sometimes they will shear off the bolts if not given enough room to expand




They will be one piece or we can split them up. What do you guys want?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 05:18 AM

Quote:

I got my W8 flanges from SPD, www.spdexhaust.com
Available for most all SB Mopar heads in mild steel or stainless, 3/8" or 1/2" thick. Very nice pieces!

Mike Gray




They might be nice but at those prices

Racer $81 for one side ($22 a piece for a left and right port $37 for the center ports)

Dealer $69.66 ($18.92 a side $31.82 center)

Jobber $56.70 ($15.40 a side $25.90 center)

These will be just as nice at almost half the price.

Do you guys want three piece? We can change the CNC program to trim them out.
Posted By: BobsProFab

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:10 PM

Quote:

I got my W8 flanges from SPD, www.spdexhaust.com
Available for most all SB Mopar heads in mild steel or stainless, 3/8" or 1/2" thick. Very nice pieces!

Mike Gray



Mike which ones did you order , they list 2 different ones for the W8 head, i need the stainless ones.
Bondo
Posted By: moparacer

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:34 PM

There are 2 W8 flanges. Kaliher showed them to me when he made my dragster headers.

Better make sure what you have before you order....
Posted By: catman408

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 02:57 PM

i need to know which one i need? the part # is P4532933 ON THE HEADS I OWN
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 03:02 PM

Quote:

i need to know which one i need? the part # is P4532933 ON THE HEADS I OWN




Any other numbers on the heads? I'm pretty sure they are W9's. Maybe Ryan will see the post and know.

Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 03:44 PM

If it is a W9 it uses a standard W8 circle track bolt pattern. Only the Drag W8 has a larger bolt pattern... & then W9RP is it's own seperate entity.
Posted By: catman408

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 03:45 PM

IT HAS W8 RIGHT ABOVE THE NUMBER
Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 03:54 PM

On a W8, on one of the outer cylinders the bolt spacing will be 3.06" CL to CL if it is a circle track casting, which shares same bolt pattern with all "normal" W9's. If it is wider than that, it is a Drag head.....
Posted By: catman408

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 04:13 PM

ITS 3.06" CL to CL YOU THE MAN
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 04:17 PM

Quote:

ITS 3.06" CL to CL YOU THE MAN




So I should mark you down for a set of W9's then
Posted By: Plumb Wired

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/29/07 08:58 PM

Bob,

The truck series heads use the small pattern 4.750" as measured between the bolt centers on the center ports, the NHRA Pro Stock or Drag Race as SPD refers to it uses the larger pattern 4.875".

Mike Gray
Posted By: catman408

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/30/07 02:06 AM

YES YES YES
Posted By: BobsProFab

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/30/07 02:22 AM

Quote:

Bob,

The truck series heads use the small pattern 4.750" as measured between the bolt centers on the center ports, the NHRA Pro Stock or Drag Race as SPD refers to it uses the larger pattern 4.875".

Mike Gray



THANKS
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 11/30/07 02:29 AM

I'll take them one piece as long as they have thin strips in between.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/03/07 01:33 PM

Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 05:40 AM



Ok guys I got the time off. We'll prolly get around to burning the parts next week. I can do 1/2" and 3/8".

Guys on the list for 1/2":

Dizuster
Catman 408
Dos Snails

No one for 3/8"

Besides how many people tell me they want them. I will only make a 2-3 sets more a piece. So if you are not on the list and want some please PM me your shipping address and what type you want. I will then send you a PM with my address to Ship the MO or cashiers check to. If you guys insist on paying by paypal 3% will be added to the total.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 06:07 AM

Quote:



Ok guys I got the time off. We'll prolly get around to burning the parts next week. I can do 1/2" and 3/8".

Guys on the list for 1/2":

Dizuster
Catman 408
Dos Snails

No one for 3/8"

Besides how many people tell me they want them. I will only make a 2-3 sets more a piece. So if you are not on the list and want some please PM me your shipping address and what type you want. I will then send you a PM with my address to Ship the MO or cashiers check to. If you guys insist on paying by paypal 3% will be added to the total.






Can you burn a couple of sets out of 304 stainless
for the standard W-9 if so I'll take 2 sets in
either 1/2 or 3/8, I prefer 3/8
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 06:17 AM

Quote:

Can you burn a couple of sets out of 304 stainless
for the standard W-9 if so I'll take 2 sets in
either 1/2 or 3/8, I prefer 3/8




If we have some drop laying around we could do it. I'll have to see.
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 12:17 PM

I'm in for a set w9 3/8" SS, if possible also, PM terms address, etc Thanks
Posted By: LA360

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 01:36 PM

My W8 CFE heads have a bolt flange of 4.975" between centres of the centre exhaust ports
AL...
Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 08:01 PM

Would 1 7/8" be possible? 3/8 ss.

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Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 08:03 PM

...

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Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 08:35 PM

Will the .125" make much difference?
Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/23/07 10:49 PM

It looks like on the heads I have, a 2" hole is not going to leave much surface for sealing.
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/24/07 12:30 AM

Quote:

Can you burn a couple of sets out of 304 stainless




Why 304? Cost? Hi temp is better? Expansion less? Or what?
Posted By: Mike Swann

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 12/24/07 03:31 AM

I'm good for a set of W8's
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group - 12/26/07 06:25 AM



Anyone else?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/26/07 02:33 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Can you burn a couple of sets out of 304 stainless




Why 304? Cost? Hi temp is better? Expansion less? Or what?




The only reason is I like 304, its good quality but
if he has a different SS thats fine also... just
as long as its stainless, this time around I'm
building stainless headers
Posted By: theclutcher

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2"??? - 12/27/07 01:01 AM

Did you get my pm? If not, 2 sets 1/2" please.
Thanks
Posted By: 440W8 Duster

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 12/27/07 01:06 AM

Jess I'll take a set of 3/8" and 1/2".
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 12/27/07 03:54 AM

So, do you have enough to make a order and did you
have any SS
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 01/04/08 02:54 AM

Yes there is enough to make a order. We have some 304 and 316 stainless drop. We will burn them out of 304. The stainless flanges are going to be a bit more expensive though. your looking at $37 a piece (because of the material and because of the small order.)

Everyone please email me your information and I will give you the address to send money orders to. The flanges will be done by the end of next week. So you can have them 2 weeks from today :banana:

Cluthcer I did get your info.

Thanks for your interest guys
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 01/04/08 03:02 AM

Here is a list people. Let me know if I missed anyone.

1/2 Mild Steel Flanges

Dizuster
Catman408
Dos Snails
TheClutcher x2
440W8

3/8 Mild Steel Flanges

440W8

3/8 SS Flanges

MrPBody
JCClark

Please let me know ASAP if I missed you. I am only lasering a few more sets than the order.
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 01/04/08 03:50 AM



Update
Quote:


JCClark X 2




Thank you for following thru on this project
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 01/04/08 06:05 AM

No problem. I'm glad I can help.

If anyone else needs flanges let me know. We will be cutting them sometime next weeek. These are top quality laser cut.

Thanks to all who participated
Posted By: STEFF

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Sale Orders Group Buy - 01/04/08 02:24 PM

Sent ya' a PM. Put me down for a set of 3/8 mild steel flanges for a W8.

Thanx!!
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/04/08 05:34 PM

I'm getting lots of W8 questions if these flanges will fit or not. So here's the dimensions.

Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/04/08 06:18 PM

Quote:

I'm getting lots of W8 questions if these flanges will fit or not. So here's the dimensions.






Yo.... I hope that is not the drawing you are using to have your W9 flanges made from.....

That is Schoenfelds 2" W9 flange. Well guess what, like Aaron Yates suggested there in another post, they don't fit good at all. The shape & size of the "port" on the flange leaves aprox .020" or less in some cases of sealing surface on a W8/9 head especially in the corners around where the notch is to access the head bolt holes.... I have a set of thsoe Schhoenfeld 0408 flanges sitting here on the desk & just had them on a W9 & W8 head..... There is no way I would ever run that flange.

Now, yes that IS the correct bolt pattern for all W9 heads (NON RP) & all "circle track" W8 heads like Steff has etc. So yes it will bolt on, but it will not seal.

You shoudl be looking at Schoenfeld 0407 to make your flanges from. This fits the port/head much much better....

If you want to see some pics of Why the 0408 flange does'nt work well I can go take some.
Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/04/08 06:19 PM

0407 flange

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Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/04/08 06:34 PM

OOOPS

My bad I posted the wrong pic. Thanks for catching that Ryan

I'll fix it quick
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/05/08 02:43 AM

Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/05/08 03:55 PM

Just making sure everyone who wants a set get them!



I don't want to leave anyone out.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/05/08 04:28 PM

So you are going with what print, the 0407?
Posted By: Mike Swann

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/05/08 04:52 PM

I would prefer mine to be individual flange pieces, not tied together.

Thanks,
Mike
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/05/08 06:05 PM

Quote:

So you are going with what print, the 0407?





Yup going with the 407 with the round holes, not the rectangular ones. I pulled up the wrong one when I posted it. Luckily Ryan caught it....
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/05/08 09:42 PM

Yup going with the 407 with the round holes, not the rectangular ones. I pulled up the wrong one when I posted it. Luckily Ryan caught it....




Cool, I forgot to send out the MO today, I'll get
it out Monday
Thanks
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Cal - 01/06/08 04:40 AM

Anyone else???? I want to have all the numbers by tuesday at the latest. I don't want to leave anyone out
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/06/08 10:51 PM

One more bump for the daydreamers.....

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/06/08 10:54 PM

I dropped your MO off at the post office today
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/06/08 10:57 PM

Quote:

I dropped your MO off at the post office today





Thanks! If all goes well the flanges should be shipped out by Friday the 18th.

Thanks to everyone again for participating.
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/06/08 11:19 PM

Thanks Jesse, I'll shoot mine out tomorrow ...Dave.
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/26/08 03:00 AM

Jesse ,check your p/m's. I screwed my bank account up & I'm just now starting to breathe again. Sorry...dave
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/26/08 03:32 AM

Ok, that makes sense. I was trying to figure out where that set was supposed to go...

There still here waiting for you
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/26/08 03:37 AM

I found a Century ski boat that had a 440 in it ,So I pulled the money out to grab it and bounced a lot of stuff. But at least I have a 440 mopar ski boat now!

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Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/26/08 04:44 AM

That thing must haul a$$... That must be custom? Never seen anything like it
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 01/26/08 01:21 PM

They come from your neck of the woods. http://www.centuryboatclub.com/decade/fiberglass/fglcoronado.html .They made 54 of these in 1971 It does not have any interior right now, So I'm going to make a wakeboard boat out of it.
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 04:22 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I dropped your MO off at the post office today





Thanks! If all goes well the flanges should be shipped out by Friday the 18th.

Thanks to everyone again for participating.





So I am still waiting on my 2 SS sets, right?
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 04:46 AM

Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 05:10 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

I dropped your MO off at the post office today





Thanks! If all goes well the flanges should be shipped out by Friday the 18th.

Thanks to everyone again for participating.





So I am still waiting on my 2 SS sets, right?




JC Clark right???

If so we are waiting on laser time. When the original sets were cut they were only 5/16". You guys paid for 3/8 so thats what your gonna get. I am told they should be done by this weekend.

I put a post up about 2 weeks ago stating we had to recut the SS. Sorry if you missed it.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 05:10 AM

Quote:






Your 1/2" went out today
Posted By: theclutcher

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 01:32 PM

Hi Jesse
Not to be a pain.What is the thickest you can do in SS, thinking turbo...
Posted By: STEFF

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 02:14 PM

Jesse, I recieved my flanges. Very nice!! Thanx again!!
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 03:48 PM

Quote:

Hi Jesse
Not to be a pain.What is the thickest you can do in SS, thinking turbo...




To be honest, once I recieved the flanges the 1/2" looked rediculously thick to me. I think 3/8 would be plenty for any engine. But if you wanted thicker it can be done.

I just don't think its needed
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/08/08 10:50 PM

1/2" is the standard for Turbo headers. You have to remember that there is allot more heat than a regular header.
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 02/20/08 11:51 PM

Received the flanges, They look great.
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/12/08 02:09 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

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I dropped your MO off at the post office today





Thanks! If all goes well the flanges should be shipped out by Friday the 18th.

Thanks to everyone again for participating.





So I am still waiting on my 2 SS sets, right?




JC Clark right???

If so we are waiting on laser time. When the original sets were cut they were only 5/16". You guys paid for 3/8 so thats what your gonna get. I am told they should be done by this weekend.

I put a post up about 2 weeks ago stating we had to recut the SS. Sorry if you missed it.




Jesse, is this going to happen?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/12/08 02:31 AM

Yes... Sorry for the wait. We had issues with the SS getting laser time. When I put the order in for the W9RP there was a 35 day lead time. The SS are being shipped to me tomorrow. I should get them Thursday. So at the latest I will have them shipped to you and everyone else by Monday the 17th I don't hae plans on Saturday so I should be able to get them all sent out then.

The stainless have been a nightmare. First they were cut out of 5/16. Then they cut them out of the wrong alloy. Finally now they are cut out of 304 3/8 SS. Sorry for the long delay on these.
Posted By: BobsProFab

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/12/08 02:39 AM

Jess, did you get a set cut for 340Ricks W9RP's
his car is coming in this weekend for the headers and front coil overs. his was mild steel 3/8 im thinking Ryan might of order them from ya.
Bob
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/12/08 02:44 AM

Yeah I put his order in. 3/8 mild steel. I actually had to do a run of 20 or 10 sets to get a decent price. Don't know what I'm gonna do with the extras.

The hard part is gonna be making 1 set of SS for Ryan.

They are gonna try to get them burned this weekend. They have been runing the laser 24/7. My buddy is getting another laser in at the end of next week. They are so busy I can never even talk to him, and he owns the place
Posted By: BobsProFab

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/12/08 02:46 AM

are they done and did they ship.
thanks Bondo
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/12/08 02:47 AM

So we should see the 3/8" SS sometime next week,
thats fine by me
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/12/08 02:52 AM

Quote:

So we should see the 3/8" SS sometime next week,
thats fine by me





Yeah you should. When I shipped all the mild steel ones it took around a week for people to recieve them since I only charged like $8 to ship I used USPS. I never looked into shipping but I ended up paying shipping. The gas prices are driving everything up. It's redicoulous. The one set i sent to Dos Snails cost a little over $16 and took like 8 days to get there. That was USPS. I'm pretty sure thats the cheapest way to ship. Live and learn I guess.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 03/31/08 03:34 PM

Have you shipped the 3/8" stainless flanges. I havent
seen any thing yet..... still waiting
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/08/08 01:15 AM

Jesse, have you shipped the 3/8" SS flanges yet.
I havent heard from you
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/08/08 04:25 AM

I think maybe Jesse you should just go ahead and return my $138? I debated making this request privately, but everything else has been out in the open, and I don't want to appear to be going behind anyone's back, and no need to go into any detail, I would just like to move on. OK?
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/10/08 05:05 PM

Jesse, giving you the most benefit of the doubt I can, something important must be going on for no responses, no return emails, and no posts since 3/24. Many would think this is starting to not look so good. Where are you good buddy?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/10/08 05:30 PM

Quote:

Jesse, giving you the most benefit of the doubt I can, something important must be going on for no responses, no return emails, and no posts since 3/24. Many would think this is starting to not look so good. Where are you good buddy?





I am in the same boat as you... I would like to
hear from him OR just send my money back
Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/10/08 06:01 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Jesse, giving you the most benefit of the doubt I can, something important must be going on for no responses, no return emails, and no posts since 3/24. Many would think this is starting to not look so good. Where are you good buddy?





I am in the same boat as you... I would like to
hear from him OR just send my money back






Me too.
Posted By: Dos Snails

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/10/08 10:21 PM

Jess is a stand up guy, I'd be more concerned that something happened to him....dave
Posted By: 440W8 Duster

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/12/08 04:18 AM

Guys I spoke to Jesse and he is in New Mexico for 1-2 months for his job because there is no work in Wisconsin so he had to go where work is.The guy that is making the flanges is suppuse to be making some more and when he is done with them Jesse's brother will send them out to you guys.He said where he's at he has no internet.
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/12/08 06:46 AM

How's the tequila? OK we wait
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 04/12/08 12:29 PM

Quote:

Guys I spoke to Jesse and he is in New Mexico for 1-2 months for his job because there is no work in Wisconsin so he had to go where work is.The guy that is making the flanges is suppuse to be making some more and when he is done with them Jesse's brother will send them out to you guys.He said where he's at he has no internet.




Thanks for the update.... at least we know where we stand
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 05/23/08 12:07 AM

Quote:

I dropped your MO off at the post office today






Has anyone heard from Jesse or the machinist that was
going to do the job.... I was told that the machinist
would do them and send them out..... WELL ITS BEEN
just short of 6 MONTHS since I placed and PAYED for
my order. I think I've been patient enough... I want
my $160+ bucks back or a product
Signed
1 Pissed off person
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 05/23/08 07:51 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I dropped your MO off at the post office today






Has anyone heard from Jesse or the machinist that was
going to do the job.... I was told that the machinist
would do them and send them out..... WELL ITS BEEN
just short of 6 MONTHS since I placed and PAYED for
my order. I think I've been patient enough... I want
my $160+ bucks back or a product
Signed
1 Pissed off person




I am in exactly the same boat, this does not look good,
Posted By: Laurent

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 05/23/08 01:00 PM

I leave in France and 3 month ago, I replied to an add of Jesse in this website (parts for sale) for a complete and new set of w9 jesel rockers. I paid 1050 usd (1000 for the parts and 50 for the shipping) 2 month after, i received an used and incomplete kit. I wrote to Jesse to explain how upset I was and he replied that he didn't know how a complete jesel rocker set can be and he saw the set was used just before he sent them to me... It seem they came from another supplier... I asked him to supply the missing parts (hardware) or reimbourse me. It was 15 days ago. No news... It's not easy when you live outside USA.
Some supplier are very honest like Ryan J. and some aren't like Jesse............ It seem...
Sorry for my poor english, I just wanted to talk about my bad experience with this supplier. I still hope he will correct this situation....
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 05/24/08 05:58 PM

Very sorry to hear about your W-9 rocker experience. I Only know Jesse from online, and he and I and a few others were burn't for thousands by Kelly out of Texas a couple of years back. He mae some pretty strong accusations here on moparts, as did I towards Kelly. Jesse was pretty upset with the whole mess, I even more so. Therefore to think Jesse would do the same is really difficult for me to believe. But right now he needs to man up and fix this mess that is festering.
Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 05/24/08 09:42 PM

I paid for 2 sets not recieved yet also. It's kinda holding up my head swap.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 05/24/08 11:48 PM

Quote:

I paid for 2 sets not recieved yet also. It's kinda holding up my head swap.





Yeah, I paid for 2 sets also. Would have been nice
to get them and get working on my project
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/06/08 11:23 AM

Quote:

Ok guys I got quotes on header flanges.

3/8" $25/piece

1/2" $30/piece

These will have 1 7/8" primary holes.

Since I have to order a large quantity to get these prices I need to know if these prices will suit you guys. Schoenfeld sells them for 24.95 for 1/4" thick. I will also be only ordering one thickness.

Let me know what thickness you guys need. And I'll get the order in.

Not sure on the complete headers yet. The company that will be doing the tube bending is unsure if they want to do a small job like this. And I really don't want to cut all my own bends out of u and j bends. Very time consuming.

I'm leaning more toward the 1/2".

If I could get a rough estimate on numbers that would be great. I want honest numbers not guys saying I'll take a set then comes time to buy them and oh I don't want them.





Jesse, not sure why you dropped the ball on this one, you have a number of member's money, offer no response, and its been almost 6 months. You have left a mess.

Guess maybe the Moparts group buy is not such a hot idea afterall.

Do I have a bull's eye on my back?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/06/08 11:39 AM

Jesse, not sure why you dropped the ball on this one, you have a number of member's money, offer no response, and its been almost 6 months. You have left a mess.

Guess maybe the Moparts group buy is not such a hot idea afterall.

Do I have a bull's eye on my back?




If anyone knows Jesse's brother's phone number I
would love to get in touch with him.... he was
suppost to follow through with this(to my understanding)
I wants parts... or my money, right now I dont care which
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/11/08 08:00 PM

Anyone know a phone number for Jesse or his
brother? I'd like to get my money back... I'm sick
of this BS.... he ripped a few of us off
Posted By: Plumb Wired

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/12/08 01:19 PM

Mike,

I bought a set of W9's off of Jesse back at the end of March with no problems. I have his number somewhere, I will look and PM you if I can find it. We are in the process of moving and I don't have internet access at home yet so it may be a few days.

Mike Gray
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/12/08 04:57 PM

Hi, please post it here, because there are more people around waiting for their flanges (or money back). I still did not get my stainless W9 flanges, he claimed they were cut of 5/16" instead of 3/8" as ordered, I told him I could get along with the 5/16" but he told me; not possible, they would be redone in 3/8".... Smelling fishy? I think money back is the right solution. I also sent him my R5/P7 files for information as he intended to make an engine, however, I did not get any comment on it.
Thanks,
O. Mostad / Norway
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/18/08 10:19 AM

So Jesse, one day when you finally read this, get my NEW address ( as of 7/1/08) before you send back my money.
Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/18/08 04:16 PM

I paid for 1 set mild and 1 set ss. Never got either. Guess I'm about to order another set from schoenfield so I can swap heads an build some pipes.
Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 06/18/08 04:47 PM

Quote:

I paid for 1 set mild and 1 set ss. Never got either. Guess I'm about to order another set from schoenfield so I can swap heads an build some pipes.




Just make sure you don't get the 2" ones, they will not fit.

You could get SPD's if you want thicker flanges.....
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 11/22/08 03:50 AM

I found this old post. Just wanted you guys to know I am back. For the guys I didn't talk to yet please get in touch with me.

Thanks,

Jesse
Posted By: Laurent

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 11/22/08 10:40 AM

Well Jesse...

Do you remember you sold me a complete set of new jesel w9 rockers ? Supposed to be new but arrived USED !
Supposed to be complete set but the ardware is still missing...


For memory help, that's your words in april08 :

"Sorry for the delay I am working very far from home due to no work in my home area, and it is very hard to find internet access. I have never bought a new set of Jesel rockers so I had no idea what all comes with them. I'll get in touch with the guy and see if I can get you the rest of the stuff. I know they were used for mock up. I wasn't told they were used. I'll get in touch with him as soon as I can. Sorry for any inconveinience."

Since... No news from you....

Glad you're back. What do you think to do to correct this situation ?
Regards,

Laurent.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 11/22/08 04:00 PM

Well the guy I bought them from told me they were new. I had never purchased a set before, so I had no idea what all came with them new.

They looked new to me. The reason they didn't come in a Jesel box is because the guy I bought them from told me he buys the stuff in bulk from nascar teams. So I took his word for it.

I don't know what to do. The guy I dealt with took me for $6300. And no one can reach him. Last I heard the FBI was looking for him.

I think I may have found him on ebay but I'm not sure.

Besides the stands, hold down hardware, and rockers, what else comes with these kits? I don't know what else it would be missing. My P7 heads run jesels and thats all that consist of those rockers.

What would you like done?
Posted By: Laurent

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 11/22/08 05:43 PM

Please supply the specific Jesel bolts that fix the 02 rocker stands to head and it will be ok.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 11/22/08 06:14 PM

I will find them, and get them to you. I totally forgot about those. Are they ARP 12 pt for that application?
Posted By: Laurent

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 11/22/08 07:24 PM

Right, they are 12 pt ARP.
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/24/08 05:07 AM

Anybody got this matter resolved lately?
Posted By: Laurent

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/24/08 06:22 AM

On my side.... NO ! I'm still waiting for these arp bolts and no news...
Posted By: W5Dart378

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/24/08 11:32 AM

Still waiting for my flanges. I sent a pm a couple weeks ago when I saw cuz was back in town.( no responce though).
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/24/08 04:39 PM

Still NO FLANGES HERE
Posted By: jcc

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/26/08 04:39 AM

Just for the record, Jesse reappeared here on Moparts out of the blue a little over 4 weeks ago, he was pretty vocal about trying to make amends and clear this matter up, and i even recieved a few emails stating the same. one said he would try and sell "My" flanges in order to get me my money returned, I informed him that sending the flanges would actually be preferred and said I was waiting to post on Moparts the satisfactory conclusion to this whole year long ordeal. I notice he has not posted once since 12/1/08 on Moparts, and wondered how long it might take to ship the flanges that he said he had, and then wondered if others were in the same position, guess so.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/26/08 04:53 AM

I sent him a PM also with no return on the PM
JESSE I"M STILL WAITING TO RECIEVE MY 2 SETS OF SS
3/8". Right now I'd like to get a PM on this subject
Posted By: Bill_G

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/28/08 02:20 AM

He last posted at www.yellowbullet.com on 12/15, his user name is XRP7Duster.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/28/08 02:39 AM

Quote:

He last posted at www.yellowbullet.com on 12/15, his user name is XRP7Duster.




Thanks
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/28/08 03:11 AM

Quote:

He last posted at www.yellowbullet.com on 12/15, his user name is XRP7Duster.




Bill do you know what post he was on or watching?
Posted By: goldmember

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/28/08 03:22 AM

He may be chiming in on an Eddy Miller "my ex goes JW on my azz" post? I'm sorry I haven't paid enough attention to say where he is,sorry you guys haven't gotten your situation resolved.Maybe he'll check in here before long and help.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/28/08 03:44 AM

Quote:

He may be chiming in on an Eddy Miller "my ex goes JW on my azz" post? I'm sorry I haven't paid enough attention to say where he is,sorry you guys haven't gotten your situation resolved.Maybe he'll check in here before long and help.




I sure hope he would like to square this away, but
If I dont hear from him within a week I'm going to
start the bad mouth direction, here and on YB and
any other boards he might go on. This could have
been handled in a better way, but as of now he ripped
me off
Posted By: goldmember

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/28/08 03:51 AM

Sorry for your situation. In the past he and I have had a few run ins,his PM's and lack of knowledge really kept me Hope it comes out well for you.
Posted By: Bill_G

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/29/08 01:35 AM

Quote:

Quote:

He last posted at www.yellowbullet.com on 12/15, his user name is XRP7Duster.




Bill do you know what post he was on or watching?





Here are a few;

FYI he was on today at 10:45am.


http://yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96214&highlight=XRP7Duster

http://yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100549&page=2

Good luck!
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Header flanges 3/8" or 1/2" Group Buy Last Call!!! - 12/29/08 02:11 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

He last posted at www.yellowbullet.com on 12/15, his user name is XRP7Duster.




Bill do you know what post he was on or watching?





Here are a few;

FYI he was on today at 10:45am.


http://yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96214&highlight=XRP7Duster

http://yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100549&page=2

Good luck!




Thanks Bill..... I was on there this morning but I
didnt see him.... but thanks for the help
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