NEW BEST-CC event Columbus

I am sure there will be several "new bests",,,thought i would post mine.

I blew the motor up LAST YEAR at Bowling Green ,,,,and had it re-done over the winter,,nothing fancy,,,re-used my E heads,,,,and changed the cam.

Previous motor was awesome,,(440, solid cam, E heads, 13:1) ,ran well,,,low maintenance,,,and i had tons of runs on it,,,,no complaints,,,

Porter Racing did the new motor, short block,,,451, solid cam, 13:1 E heads,,,made 650 HP and 580 tq on Dwaynes dyno..........

Best ET LAST year was 10.26 @129 @ Norwalk with a DA of 600,,,so i was hoping to get close to that with the new motor.

Just got the "new" motor installed this week,,,and fired it up 2 days before leaving home............

Got to the track Friday,,,for the first run ,,,, Car went 10.21 off the trailer,,,, woo hoo...NEW BEST ,,, first run,,,,MPH was about 130....

Second run,,,,10.23 with a drop in 60',,, very happy,,,,

Saturday AM,,,,nice and cool,,,,,,did some minor adjustments....expecting some more 10.20's.......

First run............ 10.12 @ 131.3 !!!!
Second run 10.14 @ 131 YIKES,,,,,,,,, didnt see that coming....

This was with a 1.44 60',,,, ( best 60' in the past was a 1.40)........ so.......there might be a little more.


Was with Mr P body and Labratt,,,, got some suggestions on the suspension,,,that might help....(Thanks Mike and Randy)

Also noticed my slicks are SHOT......... no wear hole to be seen,,,,,,

so,,,,new set of slicks,,,and some front end "tweeking",,,might help even more....we'll see....

Very happy with the results,,,,was hoping the new motor would run a 10.26 or close,,,,,,but thrilled to get a 10.12 @ 131MPH

I put all the motor specs,,,,,(FYI),,,if anyone is interested,,,,nothing to hide,,,,

1965 Plymouth Belvedere
(updated 4/2010)
-New motor from Porter Racing 451, tall fill with hard block. .055 over.
Ross dome pistons
BME rods
Ohio crank, stock stroke 4340
Comp Cams flat tappet cam, nitrided, 304/304, 272/272, 108 LSA, 650 lift w/1.6 rockers
Cam lash = .020 HOT **
Compression around 13:1 (
Indy 1.6 rockers
Victor 440 intake
Holley Dominator 1050HP
Supersucker 4 hole spacer
TTI 2” x 3.5 nickel plated headers
MSD digital 6plus ignition
MSD crank trigger
MSD billet distributor
Edelbrock heads (ported by PRH)
Made 652 HP @ 7200 RPM,,,,and 564 tq at 5800 RPM on PRH dyno 38* timing
NGK plugs (V power 9 R5671A-9 ) **
Firecore wires
Dana 60 w/ 4.56 gears
Wilwood disc brakes x 4
Caltracs, rancho -9 shocks, QA-1 front shocks
Bondo Bob K frame, motor ears, limiter, steering link, modification
CRT trans with Griner valve body, CRT clutchs, (installed 8/09)
Turbo Action 8” 5800 STALL re-done by TA 6/07
31 x 10.5 x 15w M/T slicks (13-14 lbs)
29” front runners 30-35lbs
Timing 38*
Weight of car 3260 w/out driver
Oil Filter Wix
Brad Penn oil ( 20/50)
NOTE: plugs are INDEXED *******

ps,,,,THANKS DWAYNE,,,,,,

Awesome, congrats Doug!!

It was good to see you Doug, glad to see the car out performed your expectation's,,new best's alway's make you feel good.

Good to see you Doug,

Those are some stout #'s for "small motor 451"
131mph , I think some high 9's are coming.


Good Job

Nice job,Doc!! You can always count on Dwayne to do a good build!!

NICE...! You will tickle the 9.s before the season is over.

must have been those Firecore 50's and the super sucker.....

wont be long now till youre knocking on another door!!(9's)


congrats Doug on your new bests

Good to see you doug,,,That good running hot rod you got

Lookin good and you know the drill....test,test,test....

Congrats Doug

It was good to see you guys

wow that is awesome Doug.How was the 1/8 mile ET/mph. wow between you, wild bill, tom, Ron all building new and awesome engines. it looks like i better just leave my car at home lol.Bobby

Was good Doug.... good to see you again... a few little
tweaks and you will be in the 9s

Congrats Doug! Can't wait to see it run.

That is too funny that your car is 3260 because that's what mine weighed exactly a few weeks ago on the scales. I am hoping to get it lightened up a bit with some wheels/brakes in the near future.

Congrats Doug, I saw your car there but didn't get a chance to talk to you....Good looking car!

Nice work Doc..

You deserve it...Work Hard, Play hard. .

Nice work Doug, you'd have broke into the nines with a couple of bottles of that sure grip lube I had....

The Doctor is knocking on the 9 second barrier !!! Awesome.. I see that happening this year at Norwalk, if not sooner... Nice job.. Your list of friends helping should be on everyones list... Great guys.. Congrats, Doug. You've worked VERY hard for it.. Congrats..

I stopped by your trailer in the pits and didnt see ya....Wanted to say hi...so ......HI....LOL
Congrats on the new best, car looked great. I put both hands on the roof as I gazed into the driver window, after that you was rewarded with a new best...what can i say
Later
Bob

sweet!!!

Dougie,I really think if you can get some .840" race bars,running the Calvert shocks,and puttin' on a new set of slicks,you'll be seeing some 1.35 60' times and most likely high 9's! Your new motor ran great! Kudo's to Dwayne! As always,it was great hangin' with you(and Raff)this week end! We had a GREAT time! Now if I can just curtail that snoring of his!!!... I'll get in touch with Gary Jacob and see if he can dig up a set of those bars for ya! Talk soon,Buddy! RandyB BTW...the part # on those bars is P5249156.

Hey Doug, it was nice meeting you, thanks for all the info.

Bravo Doug! You need to slow that thing down...LOL.

Congrats Doug....the new PRH bullit is making some nice power.

At 3400# raceweight and 131 mph it's kicking azz.

What was the DA ?


Ron

We watched most your runs

Congrat's on the new best Doug!

Congrats on the new bests. It's always great when a plan comes together.

Nice, give that man a beer

Congrats Doc! Dwayne get's the job done, he was a tremendous help to me to get my car where I wanted it to be.

Great job Doug, congrats!!

BTW thanks for posting up the specs....
I was going to put a post up about stock stroke Ohio cranks (I need one for a project), but I guess I won't bother now....if that works for your application it's going to work just fine for mine too.

Congrats.
What rpm do you cross the finish line at. I've just bought some 31" slicks to keep the rpm down.
My motor is similar spec to yours.
Mick

Thanks everyone.
I wasnt sure what to expect. I didnt get a chance to do anything to the car before I left Louisville to head to Columbus,,,other than setting the timing,,and checking for any leaks.

I am going to replace the slicks,,,they are shot,,,(3 years old this spring),,,so, we'll see if that helps,,,i think it might with the 60'

The other plan is to put in some lighter torsion bars, have to measure the current ones,,,but think they are the "stock" bars,,hopefully i can get the car to transfer better....

My 60' were 1.44,,,,so,,if i could get that down to a 1.40 i would be pleased,,,,doubt i'll hit a 9' but i'll try and keep chipping away at it.

Thanks for all the comments,,,,

DOUG

looks like the right prescription, doc! Well done!

Hi doug yes those are the factory 318 bars that cam with the car when i bought it. Thanks Bobby

hey doug how about a set of these?

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Congrats Doug,

Sounds like the new bullet you loaded in
the gun is going to do the job, with some tweaking I don't see high 9's being a problem with
your set up.

Keep after it small changes, sometimes brings
the most gains, just keep up with what you do, so you know what happens, and if it doesn't work you can go back and try something else.

Definately need to work on the 60's, there are gains to be made in that area, my car will go 1.40 flat in the 60, when the track is gooood, just so so, it will go 1.42's regularly, and my engine is no where near the engine you have, that would be where I would start looking for gains.

By the way, mine has the stock torsion bars, and those old junk comp engineering front shocks, so don't over think the front end.

dave

Thanks Dave,,,,
1.40's would be great,,,,,i'll keep working at it,,,,

New slicks on the way soon,,,,and just some minor stuff to play with on the front end.......
When i bought the car,,,it was running 10.60's,,so....im getting to my goal slowly,,,with the low 10's
DOUG.....

How essential is it to use or buy a "torsion bar removal tool" ?

Will a BFH do the same thing ?

what do you guys normally do,,,,,,,,,,,

I found some lighter torsion bars,,,going to give them a try,,,,,with some new slicks,,,,,and some Calvert shocks,,,,

(ps,,i know Dave,,,not trying to over think it,,,but I have to keep messing with stuff,,,lol)

DOUG

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How essential is it to use or buy a "torsion bar removal tool" ?

Will a BFH do the same thing ?

what do you guys normally do,,,,,,,,,,,

I found some lighter torsion bars,,,going to give them a try,,,,,with some new slicks,,,,,and some Calvert shocks,,,,

(ps,,i know Dave,,,not trying to over think it,,,but I have to keep messing with stuff,,,lol)

DOUG

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its very crucial. get the miller tool. dont use vise grips and bang away. you'll ruin the torsion bar.
use the correct tool.