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No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip!

Posted By: Mopar Racer

No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/19/10 11:12 PM

Without running antifreeze and just straight water will just turn the water rusty brown.What are some of you guys running in your water as a rust inhibitor and lubrication? -Thanks for any suggestions.
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/19/10 11:15 PM

I put Water Wetter in mine. First season without antifreeze so I can't give you any feed back yet.
Posted By: chryco

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/19/10 11:20 PM

I drain mine after every event . Never store an engine with water in it. Or antifreeze for that matter.
Posted By: Bigcube

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/19/10 11:21 PM

Water wetter for me also. No rust in mine But I cheat, alum block
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/19/10 11:22 PM

Water Wetter... or you can use water soluble oil but
you need some lube in there for the pump instead of
straight water
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 12:15 AM

I use distill water.. 3 gal and 1qt anitfreeze..then in the winter ..I put mix of 70/30 aintfreeze in it.. No rust.
Posted By: sg66mopar

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 12:23 AM

Alum. block, heads, water pump, radiator = NO RUST.

Just jerking your chain a little. I use Royal Purple, except at Vegas where they don't allow anything but straight water!
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 01:08 AM

Justice Brothers makes a Cooling System Protector and a Radiator Cooler. I used the Protector for years, it does a good job of preventing rust.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 01:13 AM

after ruining a $25,000 motor a few years back running only water in november. it was 67 degrees that day that night it dropped to 10 degrees and cracked my block, ruined my motor, i'll run a little antifreeze all year long.just to play it safe.
Posted By: '72CudaRacer

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 01:36 AM


Not a lot, just enough to keep it from freezing or rusting. Sometimes here in the spring and fall, we race in 60*-70* weather, but by the next morning it can be below freezing. I don't like to drain it because air causes rust and seal dry-out quicker than staight water, plus its so hard to get all the air out of the system.
Brian
Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 01:41 AM

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after ruining a $25,000 motor a few years back running only water in november. it was 67 degrees that day that night it dropped to 10 degrees and cracked my block, ruined my motor, i'll run a little antifreeze all year long.just to play it safe.




Thats what they make light bulbs for
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 01:43 AM

I run water wetter and distilled water, just drained the system when I pulled the motor out and it was damn near clear after two seasons: iron block alum heads

Rickster
Posted By: AndyF

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 04:01 AM

Use Water Wetter or Prestone Super Anti Rust or any similiar product.
Posted By: BobR

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 01:34 PM

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EVANS COOLANT DEBATABLE IF LEGAL




I use that in everything as well.
Posted By: cl440

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 02:30 PM

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Water Wetter... or you can use water soluble oil but
you need some lube in there for the pump instead of
straight water





I have always wondered about water pump lube? What does it lubricate? Isn't the bearing sealed?
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 02:31 PM

Water Wetter....works great.
Posted By: DavidDean

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 02:40 PM

I'm trying the pink RV antifreeze w/anti rust additive and water wetter.The RV anti freeze isnt slick like regular anti freeze and its basically clear when mixed.So far its worked fine.

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Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 03:16 PM

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Water Wetter... or you can use water soluble oil but
you need some lube in there for the pump instead of
straight water





I have always wondered about water pump lube? What does it lubricate? Isn't the bearing sealed?





I thought the same thing... but when I built 1 of my
engines with a electric pump I didnt have anything
but water in it... first day at the track the pump
seized ... was told to run the WW for lube... put
it in and turned the pump with a allen wrench to
break it free and havent had a problem since
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 03:31 PM

x2 on the de-ionized
de electrolized
reverse osmosis water..
or in a pinch distilled water.
w/ Water wetter.
much lest issue with rust and the galvanic/electrolosis
corrosion of steel block, copper head gasket and aluminum head...
fwiw
cheapst

ps you guys with "well" wter like my buddy in Ohio..keep that out of your block..that stuff is
rust maker on steroids...
Posted By: galen

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 03:33 PM

How many bottles of water wetter do you guys add with just distilled water?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/20/10 03:39 PM

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How many bottles of water wetter do you guys add with just distilled water?




I use 2 bottles... I have a decent size cooling system
(but not big)... I cant see it hurting anything
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 12:06 AM

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How many bottles of water wetter do you guys add with just distilled water?




1-bottler here

Rickster
Posted By: dvw

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 12:23 AM

I've always wondered. Why are we so worried about anti-freeze when the car has oil,trans,axle,and some times power steering fluid. They can all leak. they're all slippery. Just wondering.
Doug
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 12:49 AM

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I've always wondered. Why are we so worried about anti-freeze when the car has oil,trans,axle,and some times power steering fluid. They can all leak. they're all slippery. Just wondering.
Doug




Because the oil dry works only on certain things and
thats what the tracks use
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 01:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/user/SCATPACKTOM

Car before me blew the bypass hose off- straight antifreeze. Fluid is fluid, wouldn't have been any different if it was any other fluid a race car requires. Just clean up time
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 01:22 AM

water lube is a meaningless term by todays
standards
water pumps in all cars in say 58 up era isnt required
but in the old days when you had to 'pack' your'e
pumps it was
there is nothing you can use in todays market
that will lube a maintance free pump
water wetter works as a ph balancer for h2o
distilled water is the prefered h2o to be used in
cooling systems but not the 'cure all'
that is were water wetter comes in
and helps the ph balance,
there are others out there in the big truck
world that works even better
you can get ph strips at youre neighborhood drug store
or any big truck repair shop
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 01:25 AM

i would only hope they are not using oil dry
oil dry is just dirt
i would think ,, if they are up on the new
ground up corn cobb ' stuff
because not even the normal 'oil dry can pick up
sythec oils
just a thought
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 02:35 AM

a flame can pick up ...burn off whatever hydry cant..
but glycol...is nasty..it wont burn off..and still leaves a slick residue.
besides..
when water just dries up...why wouldnt you make removing it from the race cars manditory.
spill water on track..in mid day.
a few minuutes its gone...
drip a little it mops up..
one its gone its gone...dried up.
all the other stuff ..your talkin down time in the hour range...and that doesnt account for spots you missed...
when you can prevent something...with forethought..why wouldnt you...?
cheapst
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 02:53 AM

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i would only hope they are not using oil dry
oil dry is just dirt
i would think ,, if they are up on the new
ground up corn cobb ' stuff
because not even the normal 'oil dry can pick up
sythec oils
just a thought




They use oil dry... so does NASCAR... it brooms off or
use a blower
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 09:53 AM

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i would only hope they are not using oil dry
oil dry is just dirt
i would think ,, if they are up on the new
ground up corn cobb ' stuff
because not even the normal 'oil dry can pick up
sythec oils
just a thought




They use oil dry... so does NASCAR... it brooms off or
use a blower





gainesvilee uses ground peanut hulls not oil dry. I haven't seen anybody use the old oil dry in many years.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 12:23 PM



They use oil dry... so does NASCAR... it brooms off or
use a blower





gainesvilee uses ground peanut hulls not oil dry. I haven't seen anybody use the old oil dry in many years.




Never been down there but all of the places I have
been to in the north use oil dry... it always amazes
me how many bags they bring.... I worked with a few
different groups as a fuel expert for 14 years...
was a good time

Posted By: BobR

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 12:59 PM

The NHRA used to use rice hull ash.
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 02:18 PM

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The NHRA used to use rice hull ash.




This is what our track uses
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 04:22 PM

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The NHRA used to use rice hull ash.




This is what our track uses




here's what I use at home...

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Posted By: Scamp408

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 07:39 PM

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The NHRA used to use rice hull ash.




This is what our track uses




here's what I use at home...



If you bought the multiple cat formula you could use it on diff oils. LOL
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 08:40 PM

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They use oil dry... so does NASCAR... it brooms off or
use a blower





gainesvilee uses ground peanut hulls not oil dry. I haven't seen anybody use the old oil dry in many years.




Never been down there but all of the places I have
been to in the north use oil dry... it always amazes
me how many bags they bring.... I worked with a few
different groups as a fuel expert for 14 years...
was a good time






thats because yoiu guys up north are 20 years behind times
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 08:41 PM

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The NHRA used to use rice hull ash.




This is what our track uses




yea thats what I was talking about. thats what they use down here. I think they used peanut hulls for a while though.
Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: Quicktree

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 08:50 PM

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The NHRA used to use rice hull ash.




I think I smoked some of that back in the day


yea me too, thats why I can't remember anything
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 09:13 PM

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The NHRA used to use rice hull ash.




I think I smoked some of that back in the day




LOL .... I think I was there.... but cant remember
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/21/10 11:31 PM

OK, along those lines, I race a street driven car, the slow, ugly heap in the sig pic. I KNOW (from years of working at Norwalk) that antifreeze is horrible stuff on the racing surface. Will the water wetter type products keep me cool enough to drive to and from where I race? Sometimes it's 1 1/2 hours one way to the track.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/22/10 12:12 AM

Water with water wetter will cool better than a anti-freeze mix.

Anti-freeze reduces the heat capacity of water but obviously is better at protecting from freezing.
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/22/10 12:16 AM

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OK, along those lines, I race a street driven car, the slow, ugly heap in the sig pic. I KNOW (from years of working at Norwalk) that antifreeze is horrible stuff on the racing surface. Will the water wetter type products keep me cool enough to drive to and from where I race? Sometimes it's 1 1/2 hours one way to the track.




the antifreeze rule doesn't apply to street cars that I know of. the chances of them blowing up is slim. just about every unmodified street car probably has it in them.
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/22/10 01:14 AM

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OK, along those lines, I race a street driven car, the slow, ugly heap in the sig pic. I KNOW (from years of working at Norwalk) that antifreeze is horrible stuff on the racing surface. Will the water wetter type products keep me cool enough to drive to and from where I race? Sometimes it's 1 1/2 hours one way to the track.




the antifreeze rule doesn't apply to street cars that I know of. the chances of them blowing up is slim. just about every unmodified street car probably has it in them.



Yeah, but even though my car is stock, 99% of it's purpose is for racing. I'm thinkng of flushing the anti-freeze mix out, and storing it until I put it away for the winter. I'm more worried about a hose or clamp going bad than grenading my slant 6.
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/22/10 01:36 AM

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OK, along those lines, I race a street driven car, the slow, ugly heap in the sig pic. I KNOW (from years of working at Norwalk) that antifreeze is horrible stuff on the racing surface. Will the water wetter type products keep me cool enough to drive to and from where I race? Sometimes it's 1 1/2 hours one way to the track.




the antifreeze rule doesn't apply to street cars that I know of. the chances of them blowing up is slim. just about every unmodified street car probably has it in them.



Yeah, but even though my car is stock, 99% of it's purpose is for racing. I'm thinkng of flushing the anti-freeze mix out, and storing it until I put it away for the winter. I'm more worried about a hose or clamp going bad than grenading my slant 6.


well OK if it makes you feel better it's a race car
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer

Re: No antifreeze in the car at the dragstrip! - 04/22/10 11:17 AM

As I tell everyone who asks, ALL cars are race cars! I've taken over 50 different cars down the track in 25 years of racing, none quicker than 14.63...
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