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Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar

Posted By: 412 SB Duster

Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 03/04/10 07:12 PM

Does anyone make a undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar?

Or is a tensioner my only choice.

Thanks
Al
Posted By: Bill_G

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 03/04/10 08:03 PM

I got an undersized Rollmaster for mine 3-4-5 years ago.
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 03/04/10 10:32 PM

Al....put a gear drive on it and be done with it, Milidon makes a real nice one
Posted By: wldtm

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 03/04/10 11:48 PM

small block magnums have one. i used it on my 408. no problems that i know of.

justin
Posted By: ahy

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 03/05/10 04:08 AM

I run a .010 under Cloyes on a BB. They probably have them for SB also, but I'd be happy to run a tensioner. I think its a better setup and avoids the trial and error (in my case) of finding the exact right length chain.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 03/05/10 04:32 AM

Quote:

Al....put a gear drive on it and be done with it, Milidon makes a real nice one




plus you wont be changing chains all the time,
I run a KB gear set up on both of my SB... both of
them have been on for a long time(more so with my
W-2)
Posted By: domingo

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 08/31/18 11:01 PM

how come will a gear drive setup compensate for a block thats been align bored?

I have this same problem with a 340 in which a new timing chain fits with a lot of slack.

This is not a race engine, but a restoration build, and even though I could use a chain tensioner, it really doesnt give me peace of mind....specially if the new chain has so much slack on a fresh build....i fear it might pound the tensioner till failure. not good.

I also read that those Milodon gear drives are the "quiet" type. Are they really quiet as they advertise them to be?
Posted By: WHITEDART

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 09/01/18 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By 412 SB Duster
Does anyone make a undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar?

Or is a tensioner my only choice.

Thanks
Al
. I had a 408 that had lots of work done to the mains. That work moved the crankshaft up. I opted for a tensioner it was the first time I had ran one I beat the snot out of that motor forever it performed flawlessly.. now I will not assemble a small block Dodge with a chain without using a tensioner.. this was my experience
Posted By: Chargerfan68

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 09/01/18 03:23 AM

The way im thinking about this in my miind, i like the idea of a tensioner, but i still think a properly sized chain will keep cam timing in sync with crank /piston position. I would think the flexing of the tensioner would allow for movement on decelleration compared to acceleration. I could be wrong, but this seems possible.
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 09/01/18 03:54 PM

Gear drive for a normal cam MUST have an idler, or the cam would turn backward.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 09/01/18 04:49 PM

Yes my gear drive has a idler gear on it.. thats
the part thats adjustable(it can move some to
take up for a crank being turned down).. love that
gear drive set up(this is a single idler gear set
up) unlike the dual gear this is quiet on the street
EDIT
I have a tensioner on my 416 with a chain.. I was
concerned about the chain on the tensioner and how it
would wear but I have had it apart a few times and
that doesnt seem to be a issue.. the most that can
happen is the chain will wear down enough so the
tensioner will spread out the load and the chain
will be on more surface area but it hasnt got down
that far.. yet
wave
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 09/01/18 10:14 PM

I read some scary comments about the "dual floating idler" drive, sounds like the self-centering effect causes violent changes in lash and tooth contact.
Anyone make a chain drive with an adjustable (not spring loaded) tensioner to avoid the slack loop on decel?
Posted By: WHITEDART

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 09/02/18 12:12 AM

Originally Posted By polyspheric
I read some scary comments about the "dual floating idler" drive, sounds like the self-centering effect causes violent changes in lash and tooth contact.
Anyone make a chain drive with an adjustable (not spring loaded) tensioner to avoid the slack loop on decel?
chances is if he's got plenty of p2v what happens on decel is not that important.. unless he is talking about. A ton lash in the chain.. if you can take the whip out of the backside of the chain.. usually it will not stretch very much.. most of this stuff is not rocket science nor does it need to be that complicated.. put it together and have fun
Posted By: domingo

Re: Undersized timing chain set for a SB mopar - 09/02/18 08:17 PM

thanks for the replies guys_°
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