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mopar cam 557?

Posted By: onebadstepside

mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 12:50 AM

Whats the scoop on the mopar cam 296...557?What are ya shifting at?Combos and ET's are welcome...I know there are better cams out there,just wondering if its still a decent choice for a low buck 360
Posted By: Ari440

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:02 AM

for a small block ,do you happen to know what this cam is at *50 ?
Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:03 AM

252 degrees at .050
Posted By: D-50

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:05 AM

Should be 251@50

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Posted By: PUNK

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:18 AM

Thats a fantastic budget camshaft! We used it in my brothers first small block. It shifted at 7200rpm with a 3.79 stroke. It also had box stock edelbrock cylinder heads and an M1 manifold. The car went 11.09 @ 118mph with that cam. With a 3.58 stock stroke 360 it should be more like 7400-7500 RPM with the similar parts used. It sounded great as well. Im not sure how well it would work in a heavy vehicle though.
Posted By: Ari440

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:29 AM

what compression would be mininum for the 557 cam ?

10.1 good ?
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:33 AM

Since I believe the DC/MP Solids all come from the same lobe "family"........

First the advertised duration is incorrect (for what we're all used to)

The seat to seat duration is given @ .015" not .020"

To find duartion @ .020", subtract 8º from what MP tells you.

To find duration @ .050", subtract 32º(intensity)from the answer you got from above.

So, a 296º-.557" is really 288º @ .020"/256º @ .050"

312º-.590.........304º @ .020"/272º @ .050" and so on.

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Posted By: onebadstepside

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:49 AM

Sounds like this cam is actually bigger than the advertised numbers.What makes cam pull so high in the rpm?
Posted By: Sport440

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 01:52 AM

In the MP book they say to use .850 x advertized duration to find approximate .050 numbers for cams in the mild range.

It works pretty good for the most part up to the MP .590 cam

For me the MP cams below matched the .850 math

.484 @ 284 = 241 @ .050
.509 @ 292 = 248 @ .050
.557 @ 296 = 251 @ .050

and actually measured the same or very close.

But the MP .590 didnt

.590 @ 312 = 265.2 @ .050, it actually measured 272 @ .050


Reguardless, I like the All the MP cams above, the MP .557 is a good one. My measurements above were on the BB cams only. I assume, the SB lobe profiles would be the same. mike
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 02:02 AM

My old 284º/.528" measured 244º @ .050"

The last 296º/.557" I checked was 255 and some change.

I have a 284º/.484" hydraulic but, I never plotted the lobes on it.

Posted By: DaKuda

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 02:45 AM

I had this cam in a 340. TRW stock replacement pistons. Box STOCK edelbrocks with 1.5 rockers. Went NO faster over 6000 rpm. Anything over that was just revving. Went 7.20's in the 1/8th in a '68 Barracuda. 3170lbs with 4.56 gear and 5000 stall. Good bracket cam.
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 03:43 AM

Used it in a low compression 440 and went 11.30's.Still have the cam and will use it again in a new engine.Shifted at 6500.
Posted By: 383man

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 03:44 AM

My son and I both use the .557 Mopar cam in our cars. My buddy gave me mine and my brother gave us the one in my boys Dart which is a stock stroke .030 over 400. I shift at 6200 with my 906 headed 440 as it pulls nice up to that and I trap about 6400. I use 4.30's with a 30" tire. My son has Eddy heads on his 400 and he shifts at 6700 and traps about 6800 as he could use more gear (3.91's with a 26" tire) but it is a street car so we wont change the gears. His Dart weighs about 3550 with him in the car and my 63 goes just over 3700 with me in it. Both cars have run 11.40's. It is a nice street/strip cam for a mild build. Ron


Posted By: Dunnuck Racing

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 04:17 AM

Quote:

for a small block ,do you happen to know what this cam is at *50 ?




The one I put in a 360 a couple years ago measured 255 @.050.
The car was shifted @ 6000 and went through @6200.Went a best of 11.78 in a 3400 pound street car.360 with ootb Edelbrocks.
The best street/strip small block cam I have personally ever used.
Posted By: Ari440

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 04:26 AM

I will be putting a 340 together for a freind

10.1 comp , 540/235 (not sure), J head 2.02 m1 750carb

would the 557 be a good upgrade for this 340

its on a budget / low key combo


557 with 1.6 ratio rockers ,whats the lift ?
Posted By: W2DODGE

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 04:28 AM

Quote:

Thats a fantastic budget camshaft! We used it in my brothers first small block. It shifted at 7200rpm with a 3.79 stroke. It also had box stock edelbrock cylinder heads and an M1 manifold. The car went 11.09 @ 118mph with that cam. With a 3.58 stock stroke 360 it should be more like 7400-7500 RPM with the similar parts used. It sounded great as well. Im not sure how well it would work in a heavy vehicle though.




thats a bunch more RPM than that cam likes

my 69 dart 2970 lbs W-2 318 only turned 6,700 RPM to run 10.9s @ 121 the same cam in my 360 liked about 6,600 RPM ran 6.6s @ 104 1/8th its a nice cam makes good power for what it is and is verey mild manered if you want to run it on the street
Posted By: W2DODGE

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 04:29 AM

about .594
Posted By: Ari440

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 04:32 AM

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about .594





thank you JOHN
Posted By: Dunnuck Racing

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 04:47 AM

Quote:

I will be putting a 340 together for a freind

10.1 comp , 540/235 (not sure), J head 2.02 m1 750carb

would the 557 be a good upgrade for this 340

its on a budget / low key combo


If you already have it,I would definately use it.
Mine was 10.3 to one,for what it's worth.
Posted By: bill_greenwood

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 05:06 AM

An alternative is the 284/528 with 1.6 rockers. I'm super tickled with mine.
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 03:52 PM

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So, a 296º-.557" is really 288º @ .020"/256º @ .050"



That sounds pretty good. The 557 in my street 440 I measured 288º @ .020", 257º @ .050", 165º @ .200 "
Posted By: maximum entropy

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 04:06 PM

Quote:

Whats the scoop on the mopar cam 296...557?What are ya shifting at?Combos and ET's are welcome...I know there are better cams out there,just wondering if its still a decent choice for a low buck 360


i ran that cam for years. it acts smaller than it looks on paper. the wide (110) lsa really tames the idle and makes it a little to soft down low for my taste, but the sky was the limit as far as revs. mine was installed at 108, iirc, and liked to be shifted at 6500. i put a 509 cam in it, and it went faster, fwiw.
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 05:44 PM

Good cam, I made a little over 450 hp with a 9 1/2 to 1 340 with ported J heads. I went as fast as 11.34 at 117 in a 3150 lb Dart with 8 inch convertor, 904 and 4.56 gears.

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Posted By: Cheatham

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 06:19 PM

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An alternative is the 284/528 with 1.6 rockers. I'm super tickled with mine.


I liked this cam too in my 340, it pulled hard as hell, idled almost smooth and very responsive, i replaced it with the .557 296 mopar cam and i took it right back out it didnt pull as good as the 284.
Posted By: 11secondC

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 06:38 PM

The 557 was good for another 2 mph over the 528...
Posted By: Leigh

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 07:06 PM

In a X headed +.030, 10.5-1 340, the .557 cam won me a ton of rounds, at very little expense. 11.80's @3125 lbs. As stated earlier, off idle, tip in driveability is exceptional.
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 07:09 PM

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An alternative is the 284/528 with 1.6 rockers. I'm super tickled with mine.


I liked this cam too in my 340, it pulled hard as hell, idled almost smooth and very responsive, i replaced it with the .557 296 mopar cam and i took it right back out it didnt pull as good as the 284.




I ran the 284-.528" w/1.6 in my 340 for 5 passes.

11.84:1, iron heads, 4600 stall 9 1/2" Dynamic, 727, 5.38 x 32"

11.65 @ 118.4 MPH (1.73 60 ft. )

I brought it home, tore it down and changed practically everything in it.

MP could have done all us SB guys a favor and stuck with 106º LSA.

Like the scoop?

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Posted By: abodiesonly1

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 07:28 PM

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MP could have done all us SB guys a favor and stuck with 106º LSA.

Like the scoop?





Which is why, as we discussed, Im going from the .557 to the Comp 20-633-5.

Dur @ .050 260/266
.558/.555 w/ 1.5 Rockers
106 LSA


We'll see how it works.
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 07:31 PM

Quote:

Dur @ .050 260/266
.558/.555 w/ 1.5 Rockers
106 LSA





Put it in 100º-102º
Posted By: abodiesonly1

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 07:32 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Dur @ .050 260/266
.558/.555 w/ 1.5 Rockers
106 LSA





Put it in 100º-102º




Posted By: Rapid340

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/24/09 08:26 PM

Quote:

Since I believe the DC/MP Solids all come from the same lobe "family"........

First the advertised duration is incorrect (for what we're all used to)

The seat to seat duration is given @ .015" not .020"

To find duartion @ .020", subtract 8º from what MP tells you.

To find duration @ .050", subtract 32º(intensity)from the answer you got from above.

So, a 296º-.557" is really 288º @ .020"/256º @ .050"

312º-.590.........304º @ .020"/272º @ .050" and so on


Keep in mind when comparing duration at .050 on a hydraulic verses a solid, or two solids with different lash specs, that the lash must be taken into account. I have found that 1/2 degree per thousanth of lash is a decent rule of thumb.

Most of the solid cams I use have lash specs of .018 in. so I would subtract 9 degrees off the solid cam duration at .050 to compare to a hydraulic (with no lash). The mopar cams the lobes are designed with a .028 lash so I would subtract about 5 degrees at .050 to compare it to solid cam with a .018 lash.

If you want to know the actual valve seat timing you could set the lash and then measure crank degrees from when the valve/retainer first moves off the seat to when it rests on the seat. Or you could divide the lash by the rocker ratio and measure the duration at the lifter with that lift (rocker ratios do not remain constant throughout the lift range but this would be a good rough approximation).

Could do the same thing for effective lifter duration at .050 by measuring duration of valve lift at (.050 x rocker ratio) after setting lash.


Merry Chistmas
Posted By: Ari440

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/26/09 08:16 PM

did any one use the 590 cam in a small block ?
Posted By: Valiant_Showoff

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/31/09 12:30 AM

I'm running the 557 solid in my street/strip '63 Valiant and love it. Good street manners but still enough lope to let you know it's not a daily driver.

My set up is pretty basic:
junk yard 360
stock bottom end
Eddy heads (OOTB)
Victor 340 intake
750 Holley double pumper
8" ATI convertor and 904 tranny
Doug's 1-5/8" headers
full length 2-1/2" exhaust
8-3/4" with 3.91 gears
27"x8" M/T ET Radials

Shift at 6,200

Best ET of 11.68 was this summer at the Mopar Nats in 80+ heat.

60' times are in the 1.62-1.64 range depending on the weather.
Posted By: cbarracuda

Re: mopar cam 557? - 12/31/09 01:18 AM

I do, 590 mopar sb 408 w2 11.8 compresion 10.16 best for 11 0 less compresion. The 557 is better.
I have used both.
Posted By: Demon340GSS

Re: mopar cam 557? - 01/02/10 02:25 PM

I have this cam in my 68' 340 yellow dart and have yet to race it at the track, But it runs great on the street so far.
My combo is made up of old left over parts from other peoples projects that never got finished and I bought, and I did not want to get rid off the stuff years later, and so I am building this 68 dart 340 just for fun.

I am using this cam with matched springs, etc the original X heads,& 340 block, .030 trw forged 12 1/2 to 1's, 727 with 4200 stall, hooker headers,& full flowmaster 40's exhaust with factory exhaust tips, 8 3/4 rear with 3.91. Holley strip dominator intake and 780 holley vac.sec....
This is a car of mine that will sit parked more than it is driven as I have the blower car and my GSS's to play with too.

I am curious what the dart will do, but plan to race it as soon as we can at orlando speedworld ( my closest track)

I have used the 557 profile in my big block 440 demon 340 car also for awhile before switching to a roller cammed blown race motor and went a best of 11.30 et with the 557 cam and 11:1 comp ratio.
I attatched a pic, hope it comes thru...
Grant Eaton 407-947-9005
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: mopar cam 557? - 01/02/10 02:58 PM

363 ci 11.2 to 1 comp.56cc W2 Heads,590 M/P cam 550hp 10.40 best 3150 lb Dart
343 ci 9 1/2 to 1 comp. ported J heads 557 M/P cam 450 hp 11.34 best in same car

Posted By: Demon340GSS

Re: mopar cam 557? - 01/02/10 03:10 PM

trying a picture again.

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