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What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA???

Posted By: Blucuda413

What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/23/09 10:03 PM

As many of you know AHRA is in the process of re-establishing themselves as a viable Drag Racing Sanctioning Body. They already have several tracks under their sanction umbrella and even has taken over the operational running of the Northwest Louisiana old Red River racetrack. This arrangement is supposedly a multi-year arrangement with the track owners. Their rules and classes are outlined on their website.

Think they'll make it??? I certainly hope they do and I'm looking forward to some big races for North Louisiana.
Posted By: Runner

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/23/09 10:26 PM

looking at the people involved it should be interesting.

i really doubt it will ever compete with nhra, or ihra or rise to the status it once was.


do a little research on spokane raceway park and youll see a few of these peoples name mentioned.
Posted By: Steve1118

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/23/09 11:00 PM

I don't know. Looking at their rules, there seems to be a lot of emphasis on grass roots and nostalgia racing.

They've got to be a bit different....they can't go head to head with NHRA for the fuel cars and the dog and pony show. They don't have the venue, and there is simply not enough cars to support three organizations.

To me, their rules are promising. I'm rooting for them...but we'll see.
Posted By: sixpakdodge

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/23/09 11:10 PM

I think it's great. It gives those who can't afford NHRA and don't like the new IHRA format a place to call home.

I also look for a lot of people to run both AHRA and IHRA.
Posted By: Bigbeep

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/23/09 11:14 PM

Our local track just signed with the AHRA last week. Ihra wasn't bringing anything to the table for the track and with such high fees for the Ihra banner, it was back to the Ahra. Thats what our track started as so it might be a nice change.
Posted By: chryco

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/23/09 11:46 PM

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Our local track just signed with the AHRA last week. Ihra wasn't bringing anything to the table for the track and with such high fees for the Ihra banner, it was back to the Ahra. Thats what our track started as so it might be a nice change.




I see a lot more of that happening too . The NHRA / IHRA have to stop and consider the little guy racers and their needs to a far greater extent. It would be OK with me if AHRA filled that void.
Chryco

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Posted By: Michael

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 12:15 AM

I see Quaker City Raceway went AHRA. I hope they do well.
Posted By: moparguy7074

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 12:17 AM

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Our local track just signed with the AHRA last week. Ihra wasn't bringing anything to the table for the track and with such high fees for the Ihra banner, it was back to the Ahra. Thats what our track started as so it might be a nice change.




What track is this? Trails?
Posted By: DoubleD

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 12:47 AM

I think it will survive - IHRA is about done the new owner only wanted the Monster truck deal and will let the rest die a slow death. NHRA is on the brink of financial collapse due to poor management - unless some of the pro racers step up and take control it may not last either.
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 12:48 AM

Well, I wish Rod and the AHRA all the best in this new endeavor and hope they get something going out this way....would love to participate...

Rickster
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 01:06 AM

NHRA owes trails...so nothing is going to happen there...I hope it makes it..NHRA is geting old holding their hand out for more money..
Posted By: Runner

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 01:22 AM

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NHRA is geting old holding their hand out for more money..




do you think these guys will be any different? we almost lost our place to race with greed. and the ceo of ahra was a key player in that happening.

the old saying carful what you wish for it may come true come to mind.

like all tracks i wish you guys all the best.

i think the track managment means more to the well being of the track than who's sign they hang out front
Posted By: moparguy7074

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 01:29 AM

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NHRA owes trails...so nothing is going to happen there...I hope it makes it..NHRA is geting old holding their hand out for more money..




So Vern, which track is John talking about?
Posted By: KD800X

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 01:40 AM

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I see Quaker City Raceway went AHRA. I hope they do well.




That's Awsome!
Posted By: mloboda

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 02:17 AM

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NHRA owes trails...so nothing is going to happen there...I hope it makes it..NHRA is geting old holding their hand out for more money..




So Vern, which track is John talking about?





Marion County International Raceway in LaRue.
www.mcir.com
Posted By: moparguy7074

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 02:37 AM

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NHRA owes trails...so nothing is going to happen there...I hope it makes it..NHRA is geting old holding their hand out for more money..




So Vern, which track is John talking about?





Marion County International Raceway in LaRue.
www.mcir.com




That's cool! Now hopefully I will get my car together and be able to get down there and support them!
Posted By: Defbob

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 02:53 AM

It would be interesting if they covered a track near me. I am more into Outlaw racing than NHRA bracket and Professional

They're 10.5 class appeals me
Posted By: Chad Bittle

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 03:01 AM

Track being built in Mansfield, OH.....

Haven't heard who they are covered by??? Edit:Nevermind, just read IHRA.
Posted By: Crizila

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 03:14 AM

They got my vote! I hope they make it. Grass roots racing needs them. Cattering to the few with big $ will eventually catch up with NHRA. Just a matter of time. Maybe AHRA can speed the process along.
Posted By: DakFink

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 07:36 AM

Will be interesting to see?? I will keep my eyes open.

I like the way ORSCA did things in the SouthEast.
Posted By: Bigbeep

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 08:48 AM

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NHRA owes trails...so nothing is going to happen there...I hope it makes it..NHRA is geting old holding their hand out for more money..




So Vern, which track is John talking about?





Marion County International Raceway in LaRue.
www.mcir.com




Yep. MCIR
Rumor has it, they may even be posting some decent payouts this year.

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Posted By: StripeHOG

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 09:32 AM

didn't they start mansfield like 2 or 3 years ago???
Posted By: Defbob

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 12:46 PM

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Will be interesting to see?? I will keep my eyes open.

I like the way ORSCA did things in the SouthEast.




Posted By: 440Jim

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 01:37 PM

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i think the track managment means more to the well being of the track than who's sign they hang out front


I agree with that.
Since I am a bracket racer, I just need a good, safe, track to race at. Big events really help a track pay the bills and make improvements. Insurance comes to mind as a track cost that might be influenced by the sanctioning body.

For us bracket racers, the IHRA also brings the Summit Super Series (SSS) and the track champion money, along with the shot at the SSS World Championship $10k (Congrats Davey Boyd, a.k.a. 65racer)
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 04:09 PM

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didn't they start mansfield like 2 or 3 years ago???




The day I make a pass down that track.Will be the day I beleve it will ever happen !
Posted By: rt66jim

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 04:33 PM

Well they have a race scheduled in Tulsa in Sept. I hope it happens. The Old AHRA Springnationals there was a fun race with a huge spectator turn out for the track. I'm sure track owner Dan Gutterman is hoping lightening will strike twice at TRP. Jim
Posted By: b1dartsport

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 05:34 PM

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I see Quaker City Raceway went AHRA. I hope they do well.




That's Awsome!


I second that emotion!!
Posted By: sleepyhead416

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/24/09 06:36 PM

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I see Quaker City Raceway went AHRA. I hope they do well.


Doe's AHRA require a Ambulance & Paramedic's ?? I think this has something to do about it. Have you any idea what their service cost for 1-Day or Weekend ? (not cheap). Last time I went to QC DAN was sitting in a old ambulance @ end of track. YEA thats were I want to race.
Posted By: blue_stocker

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 07:10 AM

I just joined the AHRA forum. Did you see how many members are on their forum already? LOTS!! I browsed the rules section and seems pretty standard but let's see how they handle the Sportsman racers?! Hopefully, loads better that the NHRA crowd...
Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 08:48 AM

Jim,
I'll be watching very closely to see if that race takes place with Tulsa now under the NHRA umbrella...my guess is it won't happen...

As for the new AHRA...let's ask this question in five years, and see if it's still viable..
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 02:01 PM

IHRA is circling the drain. ADRL has no real sportsman classes at all. AHRA is a shiny website and not much more so far. I really hope they can make a go of it, but without the Pro racers and the fans that pay the money to see them it's gonna be a tough row to hoe. Sounds like the management may not be the best either.

NHRA has already outlived them once, and that was when the same Pro cars ran both sanctioning bodies.
Posted By: Steve1118

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 02:22 PM

They can't go head to head with NHRA for a Pro show.....there simply is not enough cars in existence.

I do disagree that drag racing has to focus on spectators to survive. Focusing on spectators at the expense of the rank and file is what got it in the shape it is in now. This sport is a participant driven sport....always has been, always will be.
Posted By: rt66jim

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 02:50 PM

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Jim,
I'll be watching very closely to see if that race takes place with Tulsa now under the NHRA umbrella...my guess is it won't happen...

As for the new AHRA...let's ask this question in five years, and see if it's still viable.. quote] I have that same concern Billy. I just hope they are able to have that race in Tulsa. Jim
Posted By: KD800X

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 03:01 PM

Did anyone notice this?

For the 2010 American Hot Rod Association Reunion Tour we are looking at a variety of “old” style classes, as well as classes incorporating “new” technology. We are open to any combination that racers in the various regions want and would support. Our goal is to give sportsmen racers a place for their cars to be competitive without having to burden them with any additional expenses. If you have any suggestions, we would welcome your input. We are open to incorporating parts from the various listings



When have you ever heard NHRA asking for racer input?
Posted By: W2DODGE

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 03:32 PM

Lets hope it makes it and becomes a good (SAFE) sanctioning body for the sportsman racers to run under NHRA has little to offer unless you run at divisional or national event level Runner with Orvile Moe out of the way it may actualy have a chance how is SRP these days since spokane took it over have they cleaned up the pits resurfaced the track and actually use VHT on regular race days it could have been a nice place back in the late 80's early 90's when I raced there but like you mention MANAGMENTmakes a big difference
Posted By: John

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 10:52 PM

W2: Bucky Austin had the contract to manage Spokane County Raceway. He put a ton of money into the track including a complete resurface, cleaned up the pits and rest rooms,. installed a new timing system and readerboard, and remodled the concession stand. The track surface is the best I have ever raced on.

Unfortunately, Bucky forgot to pay for the improvements so his contract was cancelled and Spokane County is being sued for a million dollars. The County is trying to find a new manager but rent of $275,000 a year will be a tough nut to crack. We racers are hoping the County will cut a good manager a better deal so that we will have a track in 2010 but we are all worried at this point.
Posted By: chris3

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/25/09 10:54 PM

I saw their rules on their site and really like to Modified Production. Rule are similar to the old AHRA Rule Book.

Hope they get a North Carolina Track.
Posted By: W2DODGE

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 12/26/09 12:12 AM

It's good to hear the much needed up grades happened sorry to hear about all the money troubles I hope things work out I had alot of fun there even with Orville screwing things up

good luck with 2010 season Boisie Yakima and the coast are a long tow to race
Posted By: triplenickel

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 01/19/10 12:11 AM

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Jim,
I'll be watching very closely to see if that race takes place with Tulsa now under the NHRA umbrella...

my guess is it won't happen...




Good guess.

Last week Tulsa was dropped off the list of tracks to host an AHRA Reunion Tour event.

Also (announced in the AHRA message boards by an AHRA official, but still awaiting an update on the front page of the website) the opener scheduled for March at San Antonio has been pushed back to May.

That makes the April 30 event in Louisiana the first one on the 2010 AHRA 'tour'.
Posted By: Runner

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 03:02 AM

http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php...hreveport-track


hmmm wonder what happened here.
Posted By: blue_stocker

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 03:09 AM

I'm looking forward to the AHRA being a viable body. They're racers for racers, something you can't say about the other HRA/sanctioning bodies. I truly believe after they get up and running they'll be a gigantic step-nthe-right-direction for the sortsman/little guy racer but like anything else in this world...time WILL tell!

AHRA...land of the racers.
Posted By: camdog440

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 03:16 AM

That sucks!

Posted By: sixty9bee

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 03:30 AM

rumors are flying here locally (in shreveport )about the parting, everything from the owners have a buyer and wanted to sell not lease in the first place to rent being behind. hate to see this facility close again. first race was supposed to be saturday
Posted By: go green

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 04:29 AM

Just another sanctioning body that wants to get in on the cash grab.

If any of these money hungry clubs wanted to make it better for the racer they would have a SFI drivers licence and a SFI chassis tag that was good anywhere.

The only thing you would need is a membership or a non member fee for racing at a track that you are not a member of.

That is way to easy so it will never happen.
Posted By: Super Scamp

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 01:48 PM

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Just another sanctioning body that wants to get in on the cash grab.

If any of these money hungry clubs wanted to make it better for the racer they would have a SFI drivers licence and a SFI chassis tag that was good anywhere.

The only thing you would need is a membership or a non member fee for racing at a track that you are not a member of.

That is way to easy so it will never happen.





We all just want a safe place to run our (Kids Collage funded Race Car).. For the Grass roots Racer that wants to take his or her car to the track at a major event,and try to win the big bucks (Winner $1200) thats big for the average racer.
It cost to much to race at NHRA major event, that I welcome the NEW AHRA..

We as racers need to support the local tracks to keep Drag Racing alive.. bring in the Young Guns to keep it going.. Not sure If Ohio and Michigan have any tracks under that umbrella yet but I invite them..

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Posted By: hemicop

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 02:07 PM

While they'll never match NHRA in terms of drawing the Pros, I think it's a great idea so long as they keep the little guy in mind & form the rules accordingly. I haven't been to their website but I know several guys here have voiced a desire for a return to things like Modified Production & as long as AHRA accomodates "us" they'll at least be viable, if not thrive......
Posted By: savoyracer

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 02:18 PM

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http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php...hreveport-track


hmmm wonder what happened here.


.................Just a guess.... ......they tried operating out of someone elses wallet ...
Posted By: Blucuda413

Re: What's Your View on the Rise of the AHRA??? - 03/04/10 02:20 PM

Don't know but the AHRA site and the Thunder Road track site both basically said the same thing that they terminated the agreemen so who knows. The racetrack site says their looking again for a track manager so I hope they are going to be able to keep it open.
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