Posted By: a408swinger
Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/22/09 01:07 AM
Just wondering if it would be worth the trouble to switch over from gasoline (93 octane) to E85 in a street/strip car with a 418" smallblock. Will E85 make any more power?
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/22/09 01:29 AM
i bet it would with your car...
although ..is the scamp still running the same motor?
it still should make some more power...fwih.
cheapst
Posted By: hemiiroc
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/22/09 01:34 AM
on 6-7 engine i've done it has been a minimum of 10 hp and up to 40 on several
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/22/09 02:11 AM
It should make a slight gain, but it depends.
What is your engine/car combo now? What does it run? Is E85 available near you? Do you plan on running it in the winter? Winter mix (70-75% ethanol) should not cause you any detonation issues due to your "low" CR and octane requirement, but it will require a tune-up adjustment (mixture) when you change from 80-85% to winter grade.
Posted By: nss guy
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/23/09 02:25 AM
Has anyone encountered any long term effects of E-85? The new "Flex Fuel" cars mention more maintenance and degrade of the fuel system with the use of E-85 in their owners manuals.
Posted By: 69dart
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/23/09 10:00 PM
I switched my racecar to E85 last year but I really don't see any benefits of switching a pump gas engine to E85. Its not much cheaper than 93. It is absolutely worth the swap on an engine that is using racing gas at $7 per gallon.
My car runs exactly the same on E85 as 110. If I can just get used to the smell.
Posted By: Bakaruda432
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/23/09 10:46 PM
Wouldn't E-85 show a biggier improvement in Boosted engines?
Posted By: oldtimer5151
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/23/09 10:59 PM
E-85 will run a bit cooler and cost less than race gas. The btu is less than gas so more has to be burnt to equal gasoline. The carb. will have to be opened up.
Posted By: street_dart
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/24/09 12:12 AM
I run my 499 13.7-1 engine on the same dyno same day.
60 more Hp on VP 109 unleded comperd to E-85 from the pump.
And this was full tuned on e-85. We tuned it for two days on e-85. The last thing we did was putting the old gas carb on and pick upp 40 on the first run. After some tuning we pick upp 20 more.
E-85 is not as good as race gas!
Comperd to pump gas I dont know?
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Any power gain going from gasoline to E85? - 12/24/09 04:15 PM
FWIW, on my 511 CID, using runs in comparable weather condition, the E85 was quicker by about a tenth. The torque improvement may be more than the hp improvement, but I just use the timeslip.
110 Gas: 83F, 47%RH, 29,84"Hg, 9.51 at 139 mph
Pump E85: 85, 50%RH, 29.79"Hg, 9.39 at 140 mph (worse conditions than gas)
110 Gas: 83F, 23%RH, 30.11"Hg, 9.43 at 139 mph
Pump E85: 83, 39%RH, 30.06"Hg, 9.34 at 141 mph (worse conditions than gas)
And in cooler weather, the difference will be smaller.