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where do u shift your big block??

Posted By: moparmattkos

where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 03:48 AM

I have a 451 stroker what kinda rpms do these like the most with a solid flat tappet cam? I am shifting at 6200 now and a few people say the 451 pulls the best it like 7200 any thoughts on this?
Posted By: 540dust

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 04:16 AM

6800 here
Posted By: rtstreet

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 04:19 AM

depends on set up, back in the ezstreet days i ran lots spring pressure and about 700 lift, shifted at 7600 on lots of nos (cross bar with two 85 nos and two 82 fuel).
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 04:41 AM

8200:p Well that is where we shift the Cuda but it is a 525"er

FWIW my ole 451 in the Belvedere worked best at 6700. Steel rod SR head ran mid 10's at 3770lbs with a Scott Brown cam.
Posted By: goldmember

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 04:45 AM

10,500? You really don't offer enough info to possibly help you,what do you want? A lucky guess?
Posted By: sixpakdodge

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 04:51 AM

My 452 liked 6600.
Posted By: Big B

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 05:27 AM


6800 here too
Posted By: RemCharger

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 05:54 AM

Quote:

I have a 451 stroker what kinda rpms do these like the most with a solid flat tappet cam? I am shifting at 6200 now and a few people say the 451 pulls the best it like 7200 any thoughts on this?


Either you got a real small cam, or you're sandbagging......
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 01:03 PM

Quote:

I have a 451 stroker what kinda rpms do these like the most with a solid flat tappet cam?


The key part of that is solid flat tappet cam. Although with extreme setups it can rpm sky high, most valvetrain setups will need attention over 7000 rpm. And between 6500 and 7000 valve spring surge can be an issue unless you take some steps to avoid it. With a few tricks you can go 7500, but the spring pressures risk wearing/wiping a lobe, unless you use ceramic faced lifters (Schubeck style)

Ofcourse, your head flow, cam duration, etc. all play a role on what to shift your engine at.
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 01:41 PM

More engine/trans info needed to help figure out a starting shift point for your specific combo.
Posted By: Dartman928

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 02:36 PM

5800rpm runs 9.7's
Posted By: Lil Wedge

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 02:52 PM

A guy we was pitted with at Norwalk had 500 cid in a Demon and he had bought the engine already together out of a dragster, Indy heads and intake , roller cam, dominator carb, He was told by original owner shift at 7500, He was conservative and was shifting at 6800 and was running 9.95. wanted to slow down for 10.0 shootout so backed it down to 6000 and car went 9.90, backed it down to 5500 and car went 9.84. Decided if He was going to slow down this way, He was going to have to shift at 7000,lol
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 04:52 PM

I have ran a lot of different BB combinations, the 451 is a 440 stock stroke crankshaft in a low deck, it is the same as a 440 with .060 overbore. I ran one of those with a set of M.W. heads, intake and 750 carbs, we could slow that car down a tenth by moving the shift points in 1st and 2nd gear from 6400 RP to 7000 RPM. That was with a Isky 616-590 grind with all Isky valve train parts with the springs set up the way they wanted them My point is you will have to take the car out and try different shift points to find out what works best in your combination Converter, car weight, rear gear and trans ratio, tire size and so on all play a part on what works best on shift points BTW, I shift my 518 low deck pump gas stroker at 7300 for the best ETs
Posted By: MoparJoe

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 06:03 PM

It depends on heads/cam/gear/shift recovery etc every combo it a different - A 400 with MW heads, roller and 5.38's like 8200-8400.
Posted By: 67HEMI

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 10:29 PM

I shift my 501 at 6500 and cross at 6800 with lil ez 295's. My head and cam combo are easy on springs and parts and makes good torque. Best of a 10.22 @ 129 in a 3800 pound sled.
Posted By: blownzoom440

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 10:43 PM

i was shifting at 6800 but after the bigger carbs i am trying 6500.it works pritty well so far.i just need the 60' to stick.
Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 11:07 PM

557" aluminum wedge .800 cam 15:1 compression on alky. launch at 6K and shift at 7400-7500 rpms.
Posted By: blownzoom440

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/27/09 11:10 PM

Quote:

I have a 451 stroker what kinda rpms do these like the most with a solid flat tappet cam? I am shifting at 6200 now and a few people say the 451 pulls the best it like 7200 any thoughts on this?



maybe advance the cam 4*
Posted By: B1KILLER

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 12:24 AM

499 B1 @ 7200 9.50 @ 137mph with 488 gears. crossing traps @ 7600 with a glide, car really pulls ontop

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Posted By: rebel

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 03:35 AM

512 indymaxx B engine with 4.88 gears. change gear @ 7k cross the line @ 7200 doing 9.5@139mph with TF.

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Posted By: BDS871Cuda

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 03:49 AM

5900 RPM's
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 03:55 AM

6800 rpm
Posted By: rowin4

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 04:01 AM

when the front tires come down in about 1 1/2 seconds. never look at the tach .

Posted By: rtstreet

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 04:09 AM

the 522 thats in it know i shift at 8500 and cross at about 8400 with the 456's
Posted By: larry890

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 04:59 AM

451 w/scott brown solid cam. I shift at 6500 through traps at 7000, 10.23 128mph.
Posted By: Dartsport540

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 09:51 AM

505 cu. in. Shift at 6300rpm, cross the stripe at 6900rpm. 9.48et at 140mph.
Posted By: ProSport

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 11:32 AM

451 in my previous car liked a 6300 shift and 6500 trap. It had Eddy heads and the 590 purpleshaft, ran high 9's.
Posted By: 3404

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 12:04 PM

New 540 with glide likes 7400 shift and I go through at almost 7800. 2800# with me in it. 4:56 gear, thinking about dropping to a 4:30.
Posted By: RoadRnnr69

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 01:54 PM

I shift my 496 at 6100
Posted By: Jacob Pitt

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 02:27 PM

I shift my 499ci at 6700. This is with mw EZ-1 heads and a .640 roller. Runs low 6.0's in 1/8th.
Posted By: ben1692

Re: where do u shift your big block?? - 09/28/09 05:19 PM

6800 1st to 2nd 7000 2nd to 3rd 7200 rev chip 572 cu all 440 source bottom end 440-1 heads 5.52 1/8 mile 8.80 1/4 mile
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