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Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten.
Posted By: plasticfantastic
Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 07:37 PM
Force was fined $10,000 for physical contact with the NHRA official at top end.
pocket change, pay before next race, show up with a quarter of the field, qualify, maybe drop a race to pick up points for hight, flip off the camera becuase he can, sell some t shirts...
GO FORCE...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 08:01 PM
Who really thought they were going to do anything serious to the nhra poster boy
..i hope Tony P. kicks all of Forces teams butts and sticks the trophey right up Forces..
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 08:49 PM
Pendragon's = Cry babies....
I heard they are slime balls, had some old Guy build them a replica car, and stiffed them in the end.....
Posted By: 2DoorPost
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 08:50 PM
That's nothing to Forces pocketbook,Tony is just a big whiner.
Posted By: Otherlane
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 09:12 PM
Tony should be thanking J.F for a championship title.I don't care for tony just because he left J.F after winning a title maybe if he was still on team force we mightve had 2 titles.
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 09:12 PM
John Force has earned the respect and notoriety that he receives
Rickster
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 09:14 PM
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 09:29 PM
I was at Pomona sitting at the top end when Tony beat Force on a holeshot and handed the championship to Gary Scelzi. Great time that was.
Personally I'd rather see Tim Wilkerson win the championship this year. The chase kinda screwed him last year, maybe this will be his year.
Just asking, but if it comes down to one pass for either Ashley or Hight to win the championship, which one will have to take the dive?
Posted By: supercomp
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 09:37 PM
If Tony knew about it for so long why didn't he say something while he was participating in it.
Didn't care until his bull got gored.
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/10/09 10:00 PM
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If Tony knew about it for so long why didn't he say something while he was participating in it.
Didn't care until his bull got gored.
Force admitted there was diving going on the year that Tony won the championship. Remember his big speech about "from here on out it's all heads up"?
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 12:43 AM
On a whim I drove by Force's shop to thank them for letting me park in front at his Mopar car show couple weeks back. Of course could not see him of course but the shop guys said as a whole they are fired up and as a good measure may make Coil sick again so as not to break there luck. I thought that was funny then asked what about tee shirts. Got the wait and see.
To be honest I am long time Force fan and watched him grow his shop from one side of Yorba Linda to it's current spot. I also like the Pedregons especially for there work on Drag Race high. All this drama is like the old days of Snake and the Mongoose, Bernstein, Garlits, Kalitta and many more. It's not the old days but what is.
Posted By: DaKuda
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 01:51 AM
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John Force has earned the respect and notoriety that he receives
Rickster
Posted By: plasticfantastic
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 02:48 AM
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Tony should be thanking J.F for a championship title.I don't care for tony just because he left J.F after winning a title maybe if he was still on team force we mightve had 2 titles.
he does have 2 titles....
Posted By: Keith Richards
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 03:15 AM
I have the utmost respect for Mr. Force. Really if the tables were turned the same thing would have happened had one of the Pedregons were in the same situation or one of the Schumacher cars were involved give me a break.
Posted By: mike s
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 05:47 AM
I agree.NHRA has decided that only Nitro cars and Pro stock are viable TV and live event options.Force can do as he pleases.I have followed all the posts and yes, both sides of the argument have merit.Was Force right? NO but it isn't about that... only business.Integrity be damned in the name of business and the show.All of Drag Racing is very viable for TV (Pinks proves it)but NHRA will never pay sportsman racers real money, so forget it.One last thought,I suppose we should be happy that Force or a team car doesn't win every race.
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 06:24 AM
Yep, 10 thousand to Force is chump change and in this case a bargian...
He's had 10 MILLION worth of "ink" since Indy!
I'm hoping the Force cars finish 1 through 4 and the cry baby blows up everthing he owns or can borrow from his brother. I bet Flamin' Frank Pedregon wasn't a whiner...
Posted By: BobR
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 12:55 PM
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John Force has earned the respect and notoriety that he receives
Rickster
An idea that many seem to forget. Force has done more for NHRA drag racing than Garlits, Muldowney, Prudhomme and Schumacher combined. Without his 4 car team there would be 1st round byes in most races due to less than full qualifying fields. The Pedregons are whiners but there are also a few haters on this board regarding JFR.
Posted By: therocks
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 01:57 PM
Tony seems to cry Im the little guy.You cant run 2 cars with no money.They all seem to forget Force going to races to just get beat in matbe the second round because he didnt have money to have extra parts in the trailer.Ask Bernstein how many races he won because Force couldnt run because of lack of funds.The guy worked his a-- off to get what he has.Look at his pit sometimes you will see more people there than any other at an event.The man respects his fans and he demands his employees do the same.Why wasnt anyone crying when team Kallita was laying down for Doug to get points for the championship?I guess Tony wasnt worried about that because he drove a dragster.Rocky
Posted By: 74RR
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 06:11 PM
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John Force has earned the respect and notoriety that he receives
Rickster
I agree!
Posted By: BobR
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 07:22 PM
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John Force has earned the respect and notoriety that he receives
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And is allowed to cheat because of that.. 
And you are allowed on a Mopar board even though you are openly GM oriented.
Posted By: 10secchallenger
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 07:31 PM
And you are allowed on a Mopar board even though you are openly GM oriented. [/quote
i couldn't agree more
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 07:33 PM
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John Force has earned the respect and notoriety that he receives
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And is allowed to cheat because of that..
And you are allowed on a Mopar board even though you are openly GM oriented.
And self appointed into Sainthood 
Posted By: plasticfantastic
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 07:35 PM
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John Force has earned the respect and notoriety that he receives
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And is allowed to cheat because of that..
CHEESE AND RICE... You act like this is the FIRST TIME, and the ONLY TIME it has EVER HAPPENED by ANYONE ever in the entire history of racing regardless of who it is.
Get a grip dude, IT HAPPENS, BOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO it happens wiether you or anyone else aqrees, or feels its immoral or no integrety, if you think that it tarnishes whatever, IT STILL HAPPENS, and not only or exclusively by JFR, booo hoooo, build the bridge and get over it.
Posted By: 10 o to go
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 09:03 PM
nice car 340srule
NHRA then needs to change the rules on multi car teams .Whats the $$$$ figures it takes to get sponsors for 4 cars . Alot of work .Same as the N.Y yankees pocket book to a smaller team .
Why does a pitcher walk Albert P go CARDS
percentages of the next play .Local pt series do it .
We didn't like BUYBACKS now their excepted .
Its not cheating use the rules NASCAR racers do.
don
Posted By: BobR
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 09:49 PM
"Hows that??"
Anybody that's been on this board for any amount of time knows what I'm talking about-and you do too.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 10:11 PM
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"Hows that??"
Anybody that's been on this board for any amount of time knows what I'm talking about-and you do too.
Just because i don't drink,sleep,eat,and wear mopar underwear like so many of you..doesn't mean i'm not a Mopar guy...
Posted By: maximum entropy
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/11/09 10:18 PM
you don't eat mopar underwear? shame!
Posted By: fasteddie
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 01:01 AM
Let's see. Force clearly dives, drives the car out of the groove on purpose to spin the tires creating a very dangerous situation by nearly putting the car into the wall and putting everyone nearby in danger if he lost control, and he almost did when it went sideways and snapped back, lies about it to everyone because he knows it is against the rules, gets up in Pedregon's face when confronted with the truth, screams and hollers on national tv, acts like an ass in front of Pedregon's children, and had to be physically restrained. To me it makes all his sponsors look bad and it makes my favorite sport look like it's full of rednecks, and some of you people admire him for that?
I used to be a big Force fan but not any more. I am boycotting ALL sponsors of Farce racing.
Posted By: 383man
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 02:47 AM
I did not see it as I dont watch much of the nitro cars on tv because they are boring on tv. I love them live but prefer the sportsman racing anytime. That said I have always admired John Force for what he has done. But that dont give him the right to act like that. I will say this that if I had a 2 or 3 car race team myself and two of the cars raced with one of the cars having a chance of winning the championship you can bet that car would win that race.
Ron
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 04:49 AM
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"Hows that??"
Anybody that's been on this board for any amount of time knows what I'm talking about-and you do too.
Just because i don't drink,sleep,eat,and wear mopar underwear like so many of you..doesn't mean i'm not a Mopar guy...
Why do you gotta poke the bear so much on here, it is clear to see from most of your snappy responses you try to hit peoples hot button. Seriously can you just take a deep breath and try to not stir it up or do you think it serves a purpose. Man I do not know you but come on act more age approiately before a Mod says vacation time if you even care.
Posted By: DoubleD
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 01:14 PM
The whole thing got everybody talking as planned.
Just like WWE and Nascar - a little conflict feeds the press and gets everybody watching again - Force is the master of self promotion - and the rest follow his every direction - Pro-Racing might as well be 75% acting - cause the talent pool is getting very shallow! Real Racers are dying off - these were the guys that settled there issues back in the pits out of the public view and then had a couple of cold ones together after the fight!
Posted By: justinp61
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 01:35 PM
I've always respected Force for his accomplishments. He started with nothing and built a racing empire. That said, the classy thing to do would be to walk away form the camera and settle up with Pedregon in private. He put his self on Pedregons
level with his actions.
Posted By: therocks
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 02:44 PM
Yeah settled in the pits.Kind of like when Capps hammered Whit a few years ago.Id still like to see that.Im just suprised someone dosent have that on tape.Hey I remember Force giving his arch enemy Al Hoffman a body so he could race him in the next round.He could have said tough no body no run but didnt.Seems people forget that.Tony must have picked up the crying from brother Cruz.He cried Force was cheating even when he only had his car because Cruz couldnt beat him.Rocky
Posted By: jcc
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 03:55 PM
Anybody else think $10,000 is a little much for "contacting" a civilian? Gimme a break. Its not a law. Punching, yanking out hair, shoving to the ground, fat lip, black eye, but touching, Oh my!!
Posted By: plasticfantastic
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 05:01 PM
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Anybody else think $10,000 is a little much for "contacting" a civilian? Gimme a break. Its not a law. Punching, yanking out hair, shoving to the ground, fat lip, black eye, but touching, Oh my!!
especially when the official was touching force first?
he wasnt going out of his way to touch or push anyone, the people, all the people, who were touching or restraining force got shoved off by him, i dont think he was paying attention to who it was,
$10,000 a bit much? yeah maybe, what if this is thier way of saying, we know you took a dive, and you're gonna pay somehow, what was his fine for the Beard incident?
be prepared though, next race it'll be all about Force and Pedregon, the rest of the year anytime a JFR car pulls up with a Pedregon Brother it'll be all hype... be prepared.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 08:00 PM
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Anybody else think $10,000 is a little much for "contacting" a civilian? Gimme a break. Its not a law. Punching, yanking out hair, shoving to the ground, fat lip, black eye, but touching, Oh my!!
especially when the official was touching force first?
he wasnt going out of his way to touch or push anyone, the people, all the people, who were touching or restraining force got shoved off by him, i dont think he was paying attention to who it was,
$10,000 a bit much? yeah maybe, what if this is thier way of saying, we know you took a dive, and you're gonna pay somehow, what was his fine for the Beard incident?
be prepared though, next race it'll be all about Force and Pedregon, the rest of the year anytime a JFR car pulls up with a Pedregon Brother it'll be all hype... be prepared.
And i hope Tony kicks Forces cars butts every run...
Posted By: slippery440
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 08:32 PM
Here is what is going to happen.With almost 50% of the cars that will be racing for the championship.I will bet money that all force cars will lay down everytime Asley races against them.This will hand the title to her and she will be now be the 2nd women to have it.
I hope also everytime one of his cars line up it blows the motor into peices.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 08:37 PM
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"Hows that??"
Anybody that's been on this board for any amount of time knows what I'm talking about-and you do too.
Just because i don't drink,sleep,eat,and wear mopar underwear like so many of you..doesn't mean i'm not a Mopar guy...
Why do you gotta poke the bear so much on here, it is clear to see from most of your snappy responses you try to hit peoples hot button. Seriously can you just take a deep breath and try to not stir it up or do you think it serves a purpose. Man I do not know you but come on act more age approiately before a Mod says vacation time if you even care.
Excuse me but your talking to the WRONG person,why don't you reply to the one that made the statement towards me first..if you or others can't take it don't dish it out!!! 
Ohh man are you for real, I try to offer some advise and true to your form off you go. well I for one am not gonna use those silly icons about bawling cause you really don't get it. Maybe one day you will grow up and stop being the kid in class who needs attention, thru the years we all seen em. Or maybe the mods will get tired of you again and give you a viva elvis vacation, good luck fella.
And this Force and Pedregon thing I say may the best team in California win. 
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 08:57 PM
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"Hows that??"
Anybody that's been on this board for any amount of time knows what I'm talking about-and you do too.
Just because i don't drink,sleep,eat,and wear mopar underwear like so many of you..doesn't mean i'm not a Mopar guy...
Why do you gotta poke the bear so much on here, it is clear to see from most of your snappy responses you try to hit peoples hot button. Seriously can you just take a deep breath and try to not stir it up or do you think it serves a purpose. Man I do not know you but come on act more age approiately before a Mod says vacation time if you even care.
Excuse me but your talking to the WRONG person,why don't you reply to the one that made the statement towards me first..if you or others can't take it don't dish it out!!!
Ohh man are you for real, I try to offer some advise and true to your form off you go. well I for one am not gonna use those silly icons about bawling cause you really don't get it. Maybe one day you will grow up and stop being the kid in class who needs attention, thru the years we all seen em. Or maybe the mods will get tired of you again and give you a viva elvis vacation, good luck fella.
And this Force and Pedregon thing I say may the best team in California win.
When i need your advice i'll ask for it,,so i guess i'll never be talking to ya'....
Posted By: moparniac
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/12/09 08:57 PM
$10,000 Fine... Big Deal..... Force has that in his center console change cup
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: Force fined for Indy, High still in the top ten. - 09/13/09 01:55 AM
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He cried Force was cheating even when he only had his car because Cruz couldnt beat him.Rocky
Cruz was the last one to win a championship when Force only had 1 car, so I think Cruz could beat him.
Posted By: 74DusterP457
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/13/09 01:12 PM
Force was fined because he pushed the NHRA Official out of the way to get into Tony's face. I agree with that fine completely. Watch the video again, there's no doubt about this. The Official was doing his job to keep Force and Pedregon apart.
Let me sum this up. IMO, NHRA and their BS is the reason that Force took the dive for Height. NHRA does NOTHING for the good of the sport. Drag Racing is Force's livelihood. John did what he needed to do to make sure his business (Sponsors) were taken care of.
I also believe that John Force is a man of good character and he knows his decision was based on doing what was right for his BUSINESS. I have no doubt that Force knows - deep down inside - that he would loose credibility in the eyes of his peers by making the decision to take the dive for Robert.
NHRA is a joke. Its probably worse that WWE because the guys who race at NHRA National Events are smart enough to know they are getting screwed and nobody is making any money racing NHRA except the suits in Glendora.
NHRA isn't doing anything good for the sport. Their attitude is like our local North Texas Tollway Authority "Gee, fewer people are using the toll roads, so we need to INCREASE the toll to pay for the road".
NHRA needs to DROP ticket prices and Sportsman Entry fees at National Events and work on securing PUBLICITY/ADVERTISING and Securing SPONSORS like a GOOD Sanctioning body would do.
I Hate multi-car teams, but they can't regulate how teams spend their money or share information. We're stuck with it. We don't need NHRA to institute unenforceable rules regarding multi-car teams. The present Test rule is bogus enough.
Official Flame Proof MOPAR Undergarments in place
Paul
Posted By: therocks
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/13/09 03:57 PM
Tony is a hoot.I guess when he said he was laying down for John it was OK because he was getting a patcheck.If he had that much morals he would have said no and you can keep your paycheck.Lets see Force has 14 titles and Cruz won 1 in that time.Go back and look every time Force beat him with one car.He says the same thing.Fotce is cheating.Cruz and Tony should hire Whit then they can all cry together.Rocky
Posted By: cupcake
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/13/09 08:25 PM
yes the hole thing will be handed to ashley.she is not hot she looks like a drowned rat & needs a boob job
Posted By: SomeCarGuy
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/13/09 11:39 PM
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yes the hole thing will be handed to ashley.she is not hot she looks like a drowned rat & needs a boob job
Wow, tough crowd.
Posted By: jcc
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/14/09 12:03 AM
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yes the hole thing will be handed to ashley.she is not hot she looks like a drowned rat & needs a boob job
Please put your brain back in before you type.
Posted By: DrCharles
Re: Force fined for Indy, Hight still in the top ten. - 09/14/09 12:37 AM
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yes the hole thing will be handed to ashley.she is not hot she looks like a drowned rat & needs a boob job
Please put your brain back in before you type.
I think he needs to put his eyes back in too.
She's cute. So what if she doesn't have 48GG udders giving her bruised kneecaps!
BTW, I wonder why both of his son in laws are smaller than him 
