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shifter position on a833 od

Posted By: Scott440

shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 04:14 AM

Does the shifter position here look correct? I wanted to confirm before drilling holes in my new bracket.

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Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 04:20 AM

Is it going to be the height you want it in the car? it looks like it is higher than any stock shiters I've seen in A,B or E body cars
Posted By: rowin4

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 04:31 AM

I don't know what your putting it in but the first thing I would do is turn the front 3-4 gear linkage arm so it face's up. Next thing you need is a bolt in the hole at the top of the shifter assembly . It's the main bolt for holding the shifter.

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 04:42 AM

the overdrive trannys come with the 3-4 arms reversed so third gear becomes overdrive when the shifter is in 4th gear position I have several of them and I'm thinking of reversing the reversed 3-4 arm so the gear shift lever will be in the third gear position when it is shifted into O.D., which will provide more room between the seats and the shifter which may also provide some entertaining conversations with some gear head passengers As far as the missing bolt, he is using a C clamp to hold the shifter and the mount in place before making the final decesion on the location, I think
Posted By: Jeremiah

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 12:47 PM

Years ago I bought a car that somebody had flipped the 3/4 lever back to it's normal orientation for a non OD unit...

Can you imagine the look on my face when I unknowingly downshifted when I thought I was upshifting... at 6200 or so.

Needless to say the motor had to come back out. I even remember thinking to myself how odd it was that fourth gear was smaller than third when inspecting the box. It's amazing how dangerous a few 17 year old kids can be with a Craftsman basic wrench and socket kit in mom and dad's garage!

With all of that said, what is that setup going into? Has the trans had any work done to it?
Posted By: Sixpak

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 03:11 PM

First off, what chassis is that going into - B body, A body, etc? The shifter mounting position is relative to the opening in the floor, and that varies by the chassis type.

Have you done any floor tunnel modifications?

That trans looks to me like one from a van. The tail housing has the dual mounting positions - forward position would be for a B Body, rearward for an E body. The van/truck application uses a plate unique to that use. Not sure if it would position the shifter for a pass car - even a B body.


If it were my trans I'd want those shift rods parallel to the ground, like they are for a stock setup. That means lowering the location where the shifter mounts to the plate.

Big Block Dart has some tech stuff to where a guy made a plate to use that same trans in an A body. Might help with your build. He did however use the A body shift rods. It looks like your shift rods are the original ones from a van or truck application.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 03:30 PM

Quote:

Does the shifter position here look correct? I wanted to confirm before drilling holes in my new bracket.




Just thinking out loud but like the others have said
it looks way to high.... I'm guessing you have about
3" of clearance from the trans to the tunnel and if
thats the case your shifter would be up next to the
seat.
Also as stated if you put the arms level with the shifter
arms it'll have a better leverage for the shift
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 03:37 PM

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That trans looks to me like one from a van. The tail housing has the dual mounting positions - forward position would be for a B Body, rearward for an E body. The van/truck application uses a plate unique to that use. Not sure if it would position the shifter for a pass car - even a B body.







Yes that is a pickup/van trans , the pickup used the forward mount with an adaptor (not sure if the van did also?) that raised it up and back and had it's own rods. Those look like B body NON OD rods , I can't see it working that well at that angle .
Posted By: Scott440

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 05:06 PM

i just want to know if the rod position looks feasible. d100 truck trans/tailshaft; b/e body non-od links; going into an e-body car (but i will put a short shifter if needed so disregard height/car).

i dont think the a-body od links would work
Posted By: Jerry

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 05:34 PM

you do know that ebodies use the rear shifter position on the tailshaft and not the front one. using that position will put the shifter way too far forward for you.
Posted By: 64dodge572

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 06:43 PM

That is going to be a mess in the E body. Way to far forward. It's not even a Hurst shifter, does it have ITM stamped on the side of the main housing? It would be best to use all stock E body 4-speed shifter and linkage and then modify the 3/4 rod to work with the flipped arm.
Posted By: Thread Ender1

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/01/09 10:23 PM

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i just want to know if the rod position looks feasible. d100 truck trans/tailshaft; b/e body non-od links; going into an e-body car (but i will put a short shifter if needed so disregard height/car).

i dont think the a-body od links would work


Wow from the looks of that mess you might need to take a sledgehammer and swazall to the dash to be able to make your shifts.
Posted By: Scott440

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/03/09 06:40 AM

i have both an itm (came w/trans) and hurst (because itm isn't so good). i just picked up the itm because it has the shift arm already installed. i agree it's way too high and forward, i'll move it.

as for b position, it is in a highly modified race car where the engine sits well aft of the usual position..that's why i didn't want to focus on the application. it's also been in the car with the forward shift bolts and fore/aft position was not too bad. i'll see if lowering it gives the shifter more authority on the gearbox. as for the sawzall, thanks but i'll pass.
Posted By: Chi_Town_Runner

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/04/09 01:33 AM

Here's a post that might help.


Shifter

FRank
Posted By: Scott440

Re: shifter position on a833 od - 09/04/09 05:35 AM

thanks...i was just about to seek out some more installation pics. up to now, i had seen only how chevy trucks did it:

http://www.customclassictrucks.com/techa...n/photo_01.html
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