Posted By: dafixr
727 trans shield - 08/26/09 04:25 PM
Where can I get a carbon fiber 727 tran sheild, and what is the cost? Want to get rid of the trans blanket.
Thank's JIM
Thank's JIM
727 trans shield
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 04:37 PM
Pretty much any parts supplier has them. Mancini Racing, Jegs, Summit, etc. $315.95 for the CSR shield from Mancini Racing. CHIP
Posted By: dOc !
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 05:08 PM
If you get a billet drum in there ... just use the MINIMUM "protection" that is required. You do NOT need that super-high-dollar and/or fancy-stuff since with the special-drums there is no possiblity of the trans ever coming apart.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 07:09 PM
Quote:
If you get a billet drum in there ... just use the MINIMUM "protection" that is required. You do NOT need that super-high-dollar and/or fancy-stuff since with the special-drums there is no possiblity of the trans ever coming apart.
If it's man-made, then there's always the chance of failure. Saying there's no possibility of it ever coming apart is ridiculous.
I'd much rather have the CSR shield than a blanket.
CHIP
Posted By: dOc !
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 07:21 PM
Quote:
If it's man-made, then there's always the chance of failure. Saying there's no possibility of it ever coming apart is ridiculous.
OK Mr
..... tell us all here HOW that is possible. You would have to have a engine capable of RPMing like a F1 motor to explode an aftermarket billet front drum.
Oh ...and I never said NOT running any safety equipment ...I just suggested that you did NOT have to empty-your-wallet to protect yourself.
Posted By: 9SecRoadRunner
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 07:27 PM
I'll stay out of the p*ssing contest, but aftermarket drum or not I have a good shield on my car....the CSR are nice, and the blankets can be a pain, but if you have a stock firewall and are using stock type motor mounts the shields can be a real bear when trying install the motor...I hammered the firewall/floor seem-lip flat and it was still a real PITA getting it in, I had to remove the motor mounts and position the engine in, then re-install the mounts once it was all in place, not a real enjoyable job...while doin this I would have traded the shield for a blanket..lol....this is just my experience...
Posted By: dOc !
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 07:34 PM
P*issing contest ? ... not my intent at all. WHY NOT clear this matter up .. here and now. This has been discussed several times and I would like to know ... and I am SERIOUS ....
The fun-car that I am putting together (a FED) .. I am going to have a 727 BETWEEN MY LEGS ..and I want to build a trans that is bullet-proof(as far as exploding) ....
I ask this again ... How is any-type of explosion possible using an alum or billet-steel drum ?
The fun-car that I am putting together (a FED) .. I am going to have a 727 BETWEEN MY LEGS ..and I want to build a trans that is bullet-proof(as far as exploding) ....
I ask this again ... How is any-type of explosion possible using an alum or billet-steel drum ?
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 08:16 PM
Like I said, ANYTHING can fail. Whether it's billet or whatever, it CAN fail. Sure they are very strong and it's unlikely it would come apart, but saying it's impossible to blow one up is going out on a limb. CHIP
Posted By: dafixr
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 09:10 PM
Thanks guy's I order 1 from Summit early today.$328.00 with shipping.
We are planning to run in the 7.80 class next month, didn't have any problems with the blanket just think that the trans will cool down faster.
496 Preadtor head Duster running 8.50's motor only,
going to spray a 400 shot to run 7.80 or faster.
JIM
We are planning to run in the 7.80 class next month, didn't have any problems with the blanket just think that the trans will cool down faster.
496 Preadtor head Duster running 8.50's motor only,
going to spray a 400 shot to run 7.80 or faster.
JIM
Posted By: instigator
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 09:11 PM
And you think a glide won't explode...I have a co-worker/friend that has no case or drums left of a glide after it exploded...and this happened in reverse.
I too myself use a billet steel drum and CSI carbon-fiber shield to protect myself...though I did have the shield prior to replacing the drum...but I still use the shield also.
I too myself use a billet steel drum and CSI carbon-fiber shield to protect myself...though I did have the shield prior to replacing the drum...but I still use the shield also.
Posted By: instigator
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 09:14 PM
And from seeing his power level, can't be safe enough.
I thought eddies duster was purple!
I thought eddies duster was purple!
Posted By: dafixr
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 09:18 PM
Eddie's in Florida, were in Chicago and run at GLD and Byron in the IMSM series. For what it's worth the trans is from Keith 727 specialist.
JIM
JIM
Posted By: instigator
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 09:33 PM
Just crakin a little joke....I know you ain't elvis....hope your 7.80's comes around with a 400hit.
Posted By: instigator
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 09:34 PM
Wouldn't mind knowing what goodies you have in the 727.
Posted By: PC-CHARGER
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 10:06 PM
As Chip says, anything can happen. The billet front drums do not prevent the sprag from failing which is the reason the drum is spun up so fast in the first place. Along with the front drum, the sun shelll is also being rotated at 2.2 times engine speed. If the billet drum has a small flaw or the sun shell had a crack or a slight imbalance condition, either could explode after a sprag failure. The TCS testing shows their aluminum drum failing at a little over 22K which translates into an engine speed of 10K. Not that unrealistic if you have a sprag failure at launch when your right foot is planted on the floor. Sure, there's rev limiters, but there's always a chance that something may fail. Better safe than missing body parts!!!
Posted By: bonefish
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 10:27 PM
if you get the CSR sheild MAKE SURE THE BOLT HOLES LINE UP!!!
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/26/09 10:52 PM
Quote:
if you get the CSR sheild MAKE SURE THE BOLT HOLES LINE UP!!!
I went through 4 of them with my trans down at Summit trying to get one tha lined up. None were even close. And after seeing those pics that were on here a while back where the drum went through the sheild, I'll stay with my blanket.
Posted By: dusturbd340W5
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 01:37 AM
Quote:Quote:
if you get the CSR sheild MAKE SURE THE BOLT HOLES LINE UP!!!
I went through 4 of them with my trans down at Summit trying to get one tha lined up. None were even close. And after seeing those pics that were on here a while back where the drum went through the sheild, I'll stay with my blanket.
I must have got lucky had 1 shipped from CSR and it went right on to me the blankets are just to big and bulky and the CSR shield also acts as the flex plate shield and is cert for 5 years instead of the 2 years with a blanket
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 01:49 AM
I know, It's me 
Everyone else has them fit the trans with no trouble, I go through 4 and none fit
Everyone else has them fit in their B bodies with out having to do much more than smak the lip of the firewall flat. Only way I get it in there is by cutting the tunnel out and fabing a new one
Everyone else has them fit the trans with no trouble, I go through 4 and none fit
Everyone else has them fit in their B bodies with out having to do much more than smak the lip of the firewall flat. Only way I get it in there is by cutting the tunnel out and fabing a new one
Posted By: formula S
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 02:45 AM
Quote:I think you will need a shield no matter what is inside your trans in order to pass tech, it looks like 10.99 and quicker. Check out this link http://www.nhra.net/content/about.asp?articleid=34603&zoneid=101
If you get a billet drum in there ... just use the MINIMUM "protection" that is required. You do NOT need that super-high-dollar and/or fancy-stuff since with the special-drums there is no possiblity of the trans ever coming apart.
Posted By: 512 VALIANT
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 04:27 AM
I literally just received my CSR shield from Jegs today after nearly 3 months of backorder. It was $315 w/ no shipping and weighs nothing and is very thin. It will take up min. room to install. I returned a TCI flexplate shield for this reason and am very satisfied w/ the CSI.
Posted By: dOc !
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 04:33 AM
Quote:Quote:I think you will need a shield no matter what is inside your trans in order to pass tech, it looks like 10.99 and quicker. Check out this link http://www.nhra.net/content/about.asp?articleid=34603&zoneid=101
If you get a billet drum in there ... just use the MINIMUM "protection" that is required. You do NOT need that super-high-dollar and/or fancy-stuff since with the special-drums there is no possiblity of the trans ever coming apart.
f S .. I realize that .... hence my statement about the "minimum(NHRA legal)protection". I have a nice thick alum shield ...... and a nice lite-weight alum drum.
And how could the tech-guys KNOW what is really in the trans anyways ? .. they would have to assume you have the stocker-drum.
But anyways .. you guys with your CF shields ... you butter-your-bread any way you like.
Posted By: 451Mopar
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 07:28 AM
Is there a blanket that covers the bellhousing too?
I don't see much difference in cost?
$316 for CF cert for 5-years
$90 for blanket cert for 2-years ($225 for 5 years) + bellhousing/flexplate shield cost?
I don't see much difference in cost?
$316 for CF cert for 5-years
$90 for blanket cert for 2-years ($225 for 5 years) + bellhousing/flexplate shield cost?
Posted By: formula S
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 10:02 AM
Quote:NO, and that is the reason for a shield. If you have a stock floor and fire wall the CSR type is all that will fit, and fulfill nhra requirement. The "thick aluminum" type wont fit the stock trans tunnel, and then you still need a bellhousing shield. Generally these items are for tube chassis door cars and dragsters.
Is there a blanket that covers the bellhousing too?
I don't see much difference in cost?
$316 for CF cert for 5-years
$90 for blanket cert for 2-years ($225 for 5 years) + bellhousing/flexplate shield cost?
Posted By: bonefish
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 02:34 PM
Quote:they must think im you,i dont have any better luck with them,and i dont have the luxury of trying it first
I know, It's me
Everyone else has them fit the trans with no trouble, I go through 4 and none fit
Everyone else has them fit in their B bodies with out having to do much more than smak the lip of the firewall flat. Only way I get it in there is by cutting the tunnel out and fabing a new one
Posted By: dOc !
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 02:44 PM
Quote:
Is there a blanket that covers the bellhousing too?
I don't see much difference in cost?
$316 for CF cert for 5-years
$90 for blanket cert for 2-years ($225 for 5 years) + bellhousing/flexplate shield cost?
451 .....do you have a full explanation on the CERT-deals ? ... and how they figure out which one is good for a certain period of time or not.
THEN there is the cost of a re-CERT ? .. ??
Isn't this just another way for them to get into-our-wallets again and again ?
Posted By: S/ST 3040
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 03:33 PM
The CSI/CSR carbon fiber shield is also accepted
as a flex-plate shield.
Blankets, long or short do not and must have a
separate flex-plate shield to be legal.
A combination of flex-plate shield and blanket OR
the carbon fiber is required at 10.99 or quicker.
.......regardless of internals.
Don't forget CSR/CSI shields require removal of
OEM lugs on the bell housing.
as a flex-plate shield.
Blankets, long or short do not and must have a
separate flex-plate shield to be legal.
A combination of flex-plate shield and blanket OR
the carbon fiber is required at 10.99 or quicker.
.......regardless of internals.
Don't forget CSR/CSI shields require removal of
OEM lugs on the bell housing.
Posted By: sshemi
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 05:27 PM
Will the csr fit an a-body with bb trans?
Posted By: S/ST 3040
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 05:47 PM
I have no idea......I don't run BB.
A SB 727 just does fit my Barracuda. Switched to a 904.
A SB 727 just does fit my Barracuda. Switched to a 904.
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 05:50 PM
Quote:
Will the csr fit an a-body with bb trans?
I coudn't get it to fit in my B body w/ a BB trans.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/27/09 10:15 PM
Quote:
Will the csr fit an a-body with bb trans?
According to member Prosport...NO. He went with a blanket and a JW Utrabell. The ultra bell will satisfy the "flex plate, flywheel sheild" rule.
Posted By: 10 o to go
Re: 727 trans shield - 08/28/09 02:09 AM
remember to cut off those ears .Also the 727 big block and 727 small block look almost alike except the bell housing bolts are spaced apart a little .All those 2 piece trans bellhousing are crap even with a tunnel .
Watch the 904 jw bellhousing you have use a 727 ring ask me how i know
CSR
don
Watch the 904 jw bellhousing you have use a 727 ring ask me how i know
CSR
don