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collapsed lifter, what causes it and is it repareable??

Posted By: 383duster

collapsed lifter, what causes it and is it repareable?? - 07/26/09 10:45 PM

So i went driving today and as always no problems, but after about 40 miles cruising and some "getting away at green light as fast as possible" moments that i pushed the pedal a bit deeper the engine suddenly got a ticking noise (I did NOT revved it to high, limiter is set at 6000 and did not kicked in) But engine performed good and was running on 8 cilinders.

So i cruised to my shop and diagnosed the noise was from under the valvecover on the 2-4-6-8 bank, removed the cover and the cilinder #2 intake rocker was loose, removed the rockers and pushrods and al looked good, put everything back and adjusted #2 rocker to zero lash and ½ turn preload.

Started up and perfect, no ticking anymore so i went driving, after about 10 miles i could feel that it was running on 7 cilinders but no ticking, so i went back and removed the intake, what i found was that #2 intake lifter was easy to push to the bottom and the other lifters were rock hard.

So i'm gonna replace the lifter and test again, what could be the cause of this and what is wrong / broken in this lifter??

In a few weeks i'm going to the track and then i don't wanna have this problem, what can i do so that this does not happen again?

Thanks for your time!
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Post deleted by Defbob - 07/26/09 11:01 PM

Posted By: 383duster

Re: collapsed lifter, what causes it and is it repareable?? - 07/27/09 01:21 AM

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plugged oil port ?




could be possible, tomorrow after work i'm gonna pull the lifter for inspection, allready pulled the intake tonight and while cranking the engine i could see that the #2 lifter did stay "soft" while all the others were "hard"

hope it is just a simple fix like a plugged oil port!

is there anything else that can make a lifter stay "soft"?

Thanks!
Posted By: Anonymous

Post deleted by Defbob - 07/27/09 01:41 AM

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: collapsed lifter, what causes it and is it repareable?? - 07/27/09 01:45 AM

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A piece of foreign material or a component failure has allowed the check valve in the lifter to remain open.MAKE SURE THE OIL FEED HOLES AREN'T PLUGGED WITH CRAP........if you can access them you may be able to clean them out with compressed air, carb cleaner and a wire and avoid having to take it all apart again




this is where I would look
Posted By: 383duster

Re: collapsed lifter, what causes it and is it repareable?? - 07/27/09 02:22 AM

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MAKE SURE THE OIL FEED HOLES AREN'T PLUGGED WITH CRAP




My thought is that i take out the lifter and then crank the engine so that i can see if there is oil coming out the oil gallery, must be as that is a pretty big hole

I will take the lifter apart at a clean white surface so that i can see what is coming out.

Will update tomorrow when i know more!

Thank for the advise!
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: collapsed lifter, what causes it and is it repareable?? - 07/27/09 04:47 AM

Look closely at that cam lobe I hope it is okay You can take that lifter apart and fill it with oil and reassmeble it to make it work Look very closely at the little flapper valve in the top where the pushrod cup rides
Posted By: 383duster

Re: collapsed lifter, what causes it and is it repareable?? - 07/29/09 03:26 AM

So i took it apart and got a lifter with a hole in the bottom......But what is funny is that the cam lobe looked perfect, after measuring the lobe against the others it is wore down but only 0.65mm (0.025") can't see that there is something wrong!

So now the engine is allready out for cleaning and inspecting, everything looks very nice and almost no metal in it, luckely i teared it down quick i think.

will update soon when i measured and cleaned everything.
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