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Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth

Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 12:09 AM

I want to get a new set of headers for my Savoy and I really like the fit and look of the Hedman Elite series headers.I also have seen some nice fitting headers from Doug's I like TTI but they have issues with an 11" flywheel starter position.
Any opinions
Gus

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Posted By: 52savoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 12:44 AM

I can't vouch for Doug's headers now but way back when they were Doug Thorley's I had a set. I couldn't find a set that fit in a '63 Plymouth without hitting somewhere. Ordered a set of DT from The Rod Shop and they fit like a glove.. oh yeah..John Holt was the saleman there!
Fred
Posted By: 383man

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 12:55 AM

These are Hedman Elite that I run but they are only a 1-3/4 tube. They fit great and I believe they make them in larger tubes also. Ron

Posted By: wyoming

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 02:28 AM

I run the Husslers by Hedman, guess I'm not sure what the Ekites are? Have to take a look at that, but the Husslers are good headers IMHO
Posted By: orangemonster

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 02:57 AM

I am running a set of davis stepped headers,the #7 and #8 tubes exit the engine comp. and run around the frame and back under.It's like putting together a puzzle.Look cool though.
Posted By: RussW

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 03:28 AM

Dougs
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 03:48 AM

Quote:

I can't vouch for Doug's headers now but way back when they were Doug Thorley's I had a set. I couldn't find a set that fit in a '63 Plymouth without hitting somewhere. Ordered a set of DT from The Rod Shop and they fit like a glove.. oh yeah..John Holt was the saleman there!
Fred


Headers by Dougs and Doug Thorley headers where not and are not the same company now or ever where, if my memory serves me correctly
Posted By: max_maniac

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 03:56 AM

Gus, check with DoubleD as he has a set of the Doug's on his 65 Dodge and he is running a 4 speed too along with the EZ heads. I'm pretty sure they fit really nice.


Russ
Posted By: 52savoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 04:05 AM

you may be correct. I was looking for header flanges a couple weeks ago and I did see something about 2 different Doug's but..being an ol' fart too I forget what it was about.
Posted By: R70RUNNER

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 04:10 AM

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I can't vouch for Doug's headers now but way back when they were Doug Thorley's I had a set. I couldn't find a set that fit in a '63 Plymouth without hitting somewhere. Ordered a set of DT from The Rod Shop and they fit like a glove.. oh yeah..John Holt was the saleman there!
Fred


Headers by Dougs and Doug Thorley headers where not and are not the same company now or ever where, if my memory serves me correctly




Doug Thorley...BECAME two companies AFTER the divorce YEARS AGO(local CO. out here).. SHE became Thorley... HE became Doug's.(the better of the two) Doug's was bought by PROTONIX(sp) I think the CO. was retained IE same people, but Doug is out now


EDIT for spelling
Posted By: DoubleD

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 10:19 PM

The 2" Dougs I have are nice and fit well on my 65 dodge coronet with the EZ-1 heads with an RB block & 4-speed. I don't have an 11" clutch - just the 10.5. They are almost identical to the tti's only much better quality. I also have my motor in the stock location - if you have a newer k-frame then the Dougs probably will not work.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/30/09 11:26 PM

Dave alot of Doug's headers I have seen are fender well design and thats how they list them on the website.You don't happen to remember where you got them or what the part number is do you? I really would like to see them if thats possible. I still have the factory K-member but I am using one of AndyF's motor plates.
Gus

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Posted By: DoubleD

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/31/09 03:04 AM

They are #D452 I got them at summit - I should have them back in the car tomorrow - I had the motor out to fix an annoying oil leak
Posted By: dvw

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/31/09 01:17 PM

Stay away from the 2 1/8" Hookers if you have heads with raised exhaust ports. I made mine fit but had to modify 2 tubes on the left side. My mottor is on a plate so I could put it where ever I wanted. They still wouldn't make it. I had to twist the #1 tube to miss the steering shaft.
Doug

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Posted By: dvw

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 05/31/09 01:21 PM

I had to dimple the #3 tube for torsion bar clearance. I may cut and twist it as well. I'm undecided. The right side fit perfect.
Doug

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/01/09 12:29 AM

I wish I had this header info. a few weeks ago. I am not very happy with SUMMIT right now as they did not show ANY headers for a 65' Coronet with a RB in their on-line look up, nor did calling them turn up any headers. After firefighter3931 linked this thread to me this morning, I checked with the posted numbers and sure enough, Summit has them. After calling them and raising hell about it they offered to ship out the new Doug's set without S&H fees. The story goes much deeper, but I will tell you I am DONE with SUMMIT.

If anyone here knows someone at Summit that gives a damn enough to try to change my mind about this you can give them my email address. cor.500@verizon.net

Sorry for the rant guys and gals. I don't post much here, but I do read allot and have been a member for many moons.

Steve P.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/01/09 01:18 AM

Yes sometimes everyone gets the "Summit experience"
I have been escorted out of the store before when had a "spirited" conversation with the counter idiot.
Glad you were able to get the number you needed though
There is a member here that works at a Summit
Gus

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Posted By: DoubleD

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/01/09 01:19 AM

To make life easy when installing the D452's remove your drag link and raise the engine up on the passenger side about two inches - then slide the header up from underneath. The drivers side you can slip right in from underneath without the starter inplace - then you have to fiddle getting the starter in not impossible but two people make it go easy. You have to use the mini-starter by the way. Other than that they are an easy header to put in! Thanks to Max-Maniac today for all the help -I should be back up and running in a couple of weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/01/09 01:34 AM

I have fought headers on my 65' with an RB block and 572-13 raised port heads..The 2-1/8 Hookers are on it now but like Dave said fabbing is a must on the left side to make them fit...Dave you will have to drop down the #2 tube 1" to clear starter..

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Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/03/09 12:41 AM

Well I bought the D452's today and all I can say is I love the way they look.Nice packaging and no chance for them to get dinged up or finish rubbed off during shipping if you need that.Now all I have to do is get the heads on the block and engine in the car.
Thanks guys
Gus

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/03/09 05:20 AM

Hey Gus, Let me know how you like the fit and finish in your car.

Steve P.
Posted By: wildcargo

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/03/09 11:03 AM

If you have the heads off I would put the headers in first
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/03/09 10:50 PM

Well I will probably run the engine on a test stand first with a different set of tubes.I will install the headers in the body first then lower the engine in with the bell and starter assembled while I guide the headers into place on the way down.
Gus

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Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/03/09 10:51 PM

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Hey Gus, Let me know how you like the fit and finish in your car.

Steve P.



Steve I will try to get a few pics of the install for you
Gus

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/03/09 11:42 PM

Thanks buddy. I am about 2 months out of major back surgery and right now I am living through all you guys that are building and changing your cars.

I'm hoping to be able to get back on my tools before the end of summer. The one nice thing about living in Florida is that our winters are normally great for working on cars. I can't wait. My 65' Coronet 500 has been calling my name for the last 2 years. It's about time I answer..
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Doug's headers for 62-65 Plymouth - 06/04/09 12:08 AM

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Thanks buddy. I am about 2 months out of major back surgery and right now I am living through all you guys that are building and changing your cars.

I'm hoping to be able to get back on my tools before the end of summer. The one nice thing about living in Florida is that our winters are normally great for working on cars. I can't wait. My 65' Coronet 500 has been calling my name for the last 2 years. It's about time I answer..



I hear ya man
I had a new left hip installed(clutch leg)and had to sit out a few years pre-and post surgery while in pain and recovery.
Now I am very excited to have a "REAL" engine between the rails
Gus
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