Posted By: Moparnut426
1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/29/09 08:57 PM
there was some guys over on the general side, asking if they cheated or not?? What has been said about this, were they cheating, who really isnt anymore??
Kasey
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/29/09 09:30 PM
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Posted By: Jeffaary
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/29/09 10:29 PM
This has been beat to death and we will probably never know for sure. The facts don't look good, though:
1) When the Dodge Boys came back they weren't able to dominate like they had before. In 1994-95 Alderman, Geoffrion, or both of them were in almost every final round. After the "break-in" they were also-rans.
2) Darrell Alderman was suspended for two years for cocaine use and was suspected of dealing as well. Would you put it past him to use NOS? Especially if he was trying to win more money to pay for nose candy?
3) Pretty much everyone in auto racing, and most other sports, is cheating. Steroids in almost every sport. The old NASCAR adage is "if you're not winning you're not cheating hard enough." Just look at how often NASCAR crew chiefs are fined and suspended. In the Mopar camp the AAR and TA teams cheated in 1970. Sam Posey readily admits the cars were acid dipped and the differential housings were made of magnesium and then spray painted to look like iron. I have Sam on video saying "we cheated from the nose of the car to the tail of the car." He also said they had to change cars one time when after passing inspection the tech inspector leaned up against the roof and it caved in.
As I always say, this would be a great world if there were no people and no money. Anytime big money is involved, people cheat.
My guess? Guilty.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 12:15 AM
Im not trying to start any crap on here again, Im just curious... I was only 16, and heavily involved in getting my demon project running so NHRA at the time was cool, I just didnt follow it too much. I heard about the foul ups, but never anything too indepth...
Kasey
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 12:19 AM
nothing ever found nothing ever proved. thats all there is to it.........
Posted By: proshiftcharger
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 01:13 AM
This is one of those questions that only the
"8 Ball" can answer.
Posted By: Steve1118
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 01:18 AM
There were a lot of accusations made.....but NOTHING was ever found or proven. So, to me, talk is cheap, seeing is believing, so for myself unless I see some sort of proof it's all just conjecture.
If you search you tube, there is a video interview with Dave Koffel, who developed the B1, that is very interesting and addresses the issue in depth.
It's funny, the only one actually caught was Jerry Eckman's Pontiac when it blew the oil pan off at Columbus and a bottle was found.
Posted By: sixpackbee
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 09:44 AM
From someone who was around back then, and before, most of them were indulging one way or another. After NHRA really started looking and cracked down it took two years for the speed record to be reset. Up til that time it was twice or more times a year. That says that they were down about two years worth of development at that time. It was not just one team. There is a laundry list of stuff folks used back then to gain an edge. Still goes on in some classes.
Posted By: BryanRad
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 11:19 AM
I dont know what a dry sump can does if it explodes but I was at Columbus and when Eckmans car exploded it sounded like a 1/4 stick went off.
Posted By: Dos Snails
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 03:28 PM
If we keep using the "N" word things will never change! can't wee all just get along.. We have to quit condemning it in the daytime & using it at night.
Posted By: bill_greenwood
Re: 1996 PRO STOCK NOS OR NOT?? - 05/30/09 09:09 PM
Definitely not a story worth pursuing for a definitive answer. On the other hand, there are some funny stories out there regarding the liberal interpretation of the rules that are worth sharing. For example, there was a S/S racer on the West Coast whose laughing gas addiction was exposed when a roll bar mounted "fire extinguisher" let go and blew out through the windshield of his SS/GT car while coming back up the return road. Now, having had a battery explode under the hood of my truck whilst driving it, and the "Holy ****! What was that?!?" (It was like a shotgun going off.) reaction, I giggle every time I think about a nitrous bottle going off inside a race car (underwear issues come to mind.). That's where this discussion needs to go. BTW, I also recall a West Coast SS/A car that didn't like to be parked near another one at a points meet, as it made it rather easy to spot (ahem) "firewall modifications".
don't even bother 
