Posted By: migsBIG
What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 04:03 AM
That old saying that saving 100lbs pounds of weight off a race car can be equal to tenth in the quarter. Kinda curious to when you did to reduce weight on yours and was it worth doing it. Trying to a feel for what my big old truck is gonna need to loose when the time comes for the build.
Posted By: DrCharles
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 04:05 AM
I eliminated the back seat from my '72 Dart, and replaced that heavy front bench seat with two seats from a Dodge Intrepid. If I was really serious about weight loss, those comfortable-for-a-short-time-only racing seats would have saved quite a bit more.
Posted By: scottb
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 04:50 AM
Fiberglass hood and bumpers CM cage over mild steel aluminum bumper brakets light weight wheels
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 05:15 AM
Fiberglass hood and bumpers CM cage over mild steel aluminum bumper brakets light weight wheels
Those were the first things on my list and racing seats. Figured with all that stock stuff gone, it would be easily 200lbs worth of savings. Added bonus of this also is less weight in the front.
Posted By: BloFish
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 06:00 AM
There is a rather lengthy thread on just this subject. If you search it there must be at least 10 pages on the subject. But the usual are hood, door, gut the interior, etc. I have gone as far as shaving bolts and using titanium.
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 06:57 AM
Posted By: dOoC
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 07:02 AM
.....and lose some of those heavier smilies
Posted By: GY3
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 01:30 PM
After scaling it a few weeks ago, not enough.
Posted By: polyspheric
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 02:34 PM
That old saying that saving 100lbs pounds of weight off a race car can be equal to tenth in the quarter.
Or not. Possible true by accident, not linear.
Posted By: 65 Hemi
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 03:01 PM
Lighter Lithium battery. Move battery closer to starter saves on battery cable weight. Ounces makes pounds! Pounds make hundreds of pound!
Posted By: DrCharles
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 04:35 PM
Fiberglass hood and bumpers CM cage over mild steel aluminum bumper brakets light weight wheels
Those were the first things on my list and racing seats. Figured with all that stock stuff gone, it would be easily 200lbs worth of savings. Added bonus of this also is less weight in the front.
Yup, I forgot the fiberglass hood with integral six-pak scoop
it also saved weight by lightening my wallet!
Posted By: JCCuda
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 05:56 PM
What do you have to do to make an E body weigh over 4000lbs?
Posted By: polyspheric
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 07:01 PM
Light wheels, especially if using D60. Reducing the unsprung weight makes the axle easier to control, may help launch.
Remember: weight subtracted behind rear axle is cantilevered. Drop 100 behind the axle loses more than 100 from the axle, and adds the same ahead of the axle.
Example only: remove 100 = car weight drops 100. Rear wheels drop 120, front wheels increase 20.
The amount depends on how far back the removed weight was. Obviously, a small weight or small distance hardly matters, but a bumper is major.
This is why ballast is added as far back as possible: the distance behind the axle increases the weight on the axle to more than the weight added. If it were legal, extending the bumper back 3 feet and making it of Mallory Metal would really help weight distribution.
Posted By: hemi-itis
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 08:06 PM
Posted By: 68rrunner
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 08:40 PM
What do you have to do to make an E body weigh over 4000lbs?
RIGHT!?!?!
My Road Runner weighs 3554.
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 08:44 PM
What do you have to do to make an E body weigh over 4000lbs?
Put 6 heavy weight people in it
Or a stock street hemi with 4 people
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 10:30 PM
I bought a car someone else had spent a ton of money on getting it light.
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/21/21 11:03 PM
That old saying that saving 100lbs pounds of weight off a race car can be equal to tenth in the quarter.
Or not. Possible true by accident, not linear.
Boff, is there an accurate formula or calculation that we can use?
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 02:07 AM
Loving this post, gotten a few more good ideas.
Steering column and box. Manual box is good, but I do prefer power steering as my shoulder is getting bad.
Would there be much difference with an aluminum or race column?
The stock 36 gallon tank needs to go. Thinking instead of a fuel cell, more like a stronger aluminum race one with an internal foam/bladder for safety.
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 02:24 AM
The list is almost endless. Some biggies:
Lithium battery on the framerail under the drivers floor. Save 60# at least of battery and cable compared to lead acid in the trunk.
aluminum calipers, aluminum hats, 50+# compared to stock
Aluminum flywheel and pressure plate 20#+
acid dip bumper brackets 12#
Posted By: A727Tflite
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 02:27 AM
That old saying that saving 100lbs pounds of weight off a race car can be equal to tenth in the quarter.
Or not. Possible true by accident, not linear.
Boff, is there an accurate formula or calculation that we can use?
Try the Wallace calculator.
Start with a given horsepower, then plug in weights starting at maybe 4k and work downward to maybe 2500.
You should see a decrease in e.t. reduction as you work away from 4K.
Chrysler used to use a tenth decrease per 100 lbs. removed. But that was typically for most doorslammers back in the day at 3300-3600 lbs.
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 02:34 AM
[quote=Hemi_Joel][quote=polyspheric]That old saying that saving 100lbs pounds of weight off a race car can be equal to tenth in the quarter.
Chrysler used to use a tenth decrease per 100 lbs. removed. But that was typically for most doorslammers back in the day at 3300-3600 lbs.
That was in the heyday of Jr. stock and Super Stock, 1960 to around 1974
Posted By: dvw
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 03:33 AM
My 64 Belvedere just under 3100 w/o driver. The heavy stuff; Mega block, Dana, all steel body stock floor and trunk pans, inner fenders, ect, except hood, std battery, stock steering wheel, steel bumpers. The aluminum parts; seat to floor brackets, brake hubs, calipers, master cylinder, radiator, fuel cell, driveshaft, trans shield, heads, intake, water pump, valve covers, motor plate, shocks, wheels, hood pins, carb air pan, trans drums, front clutch carrier. The missing stuff; heater, wipers, window regulators. The modified stuff; moly tube cage, steering shaft, strut rods, fender braces, center grille support. K frame is cut down, cast zinc cluster is 1/8"aluminum plate. The light stuff; Lexan windows (exc windshield) with nylon straps for functional door windows, vents are Lexan, small alternator. The trick light stuff; magnesium seat frames (seats and brackets together weigh 18lbs each) , carbon fiber bumper brackets (2.5lbs total for all), carbon fiber hood and scoop (17lbs). The extras; plenty of extra cage bars that weren't required for 8.50 cert, fire system, vacuum pump, large radiator, dual fans, 2 carbs, slick tubes. Stuff that I like but is heavy; stock steering wheel and horn ring, cast American 200S wheels, cast valve covers. Except for the safety equipment the exterior and interior appear pretty much stock.
Doug
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 08:29 AM
100# off a car with 100 horsepower makes a much bigger difference than 100# off a car with 1000 horsepower.
Posted By: INTMD8
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 01:39 PM
Look at it as a percentage of weight. 100lbs off of a 7000lb truck is a drop in the ocean compared to 100lbs off of a 2500lb car.
On one of my cars I dropped weight from 3199 to 2987 and picked up 3 tenths and 3mph on the rev limiter through the traps.
I've done nothing but add weight to my chubby 69 Charger with an iron hemi.
At the very least I plan to replace the steel wheels with aluminum look-alikes from Bogart.
Posted By: Bob Stinson
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 04:28 PM
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 04:35 PM
Best advice I can tell you is if you are serious about weight, then look everywhere and think in ounces. Gut the platform down to the 'studs' and don't put anything on that you can't live without having.
Posted By: moparx
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/22/21 05:08 PM
hows things goin' Itus ?
FMJ still chasing weight ?
Posted By: dOoC
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/23/21 12:15 AM
I’m gonna pull off that pesky heavy weight fuel tank ...
Posted By: 6PKRTSE
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/24/21 07:42 PM
Nothing. No lightweight. 3760 full race weight,, full cell, both bottles and me in it.. Okay, I do have aluminum Kirkey seats, lightweight racing battery, aluminum wheels, fiberglass hood. All else is all steel, factory windows, full interior, exhaust and street driven.
Posted By: CMcAllister
Re: What have you done to reduce vehicle weight? - 11/24/21 08:32 PM
That old saying that saving 100lbs pounds of weight off a race car can be equal to tenth in the quarter.
Or not. Possible true by accident, not linear.
It's not linear. Lighter the car, the more it matters. HP level also matters some. Depending on the weight & HP, it's close - within a few hun either way. Take it out of a wheel/tire or anything else reciprocating or spinning, it makes a bigger difference.
Where the weight is also matters. Front. rear, and/or how far from C/G in any direction, all make it work differently.