Data Loggers -Innovative Motorsports

Does anyone have any experience with Innovated Data loggers? I see they don't carry a drive shaft sensor. Kinda thought this was odd?


https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/pl1.php

Very interesting platform. Never seen one of those in use before. Myself, I went with Holley Pro-dash and I will try logging this summer. They also do not currently offer a drive shaft sensor.

check out motion raceworks

I got all my innovate gear from Greg Kelley which included a driveshaft collar at MotorsportsInnovations


Speed Sensors

He no longer sells the Innovate gear but I'm sure he should be able to help you out.

I built one last year with this system. We used a speed sensor mounted in the transmission. Used the park gear as the wheel. Also mounted an accelerometer. Used a SSI4 and the pocket logger to tie it all together. So far it hasn't worked. The sensor is sending a signal as tested with a scope. We have used this method in Dizusters turbo car (different operating system) and in y buddy's Camaro with a TH400. Both work. I can watch the G's go positive and negative when the G meter is tilted. The Pocket logger records data. But no useful data. Inovate has been contacted numerous times. ZERO help, ZERO info. I'll chase it again this spring.
Doug

I could never get their LMA-3 AuxBox to work. None of the 5 channels could ever read-off any values, despite the fact that the RPM/Tach signal was easily handled by the much less sophisticated LMA-2 RPM Converter. Go figure...and yeah, I spend time playing around with the different -ve and GROUND signals, making sure they were noise free, etc, etc.

I finally gave up on my LM-2 and SSI-4 this year. I had similar results with the SSI-4 trying to read a wheel speed sensor and I also tried to use the Duty Cycle function to read my solenoids while progressing the nitrous. Neither gave me a signal that made any sense. Way too much noise. I have a clean power and ground right to the battery and all the sensor cables are shielded,
Just wiring in my new Computech DataMaxx system.

Should not be in a NSS car anyway

Use a separate battery pack for your data logger - the alternator in the car makes too much noise in the system - the pocket data logger is just way too sensitive to noise - not that I would ever use a Data Logger in an NSS car ........

I run plenty of other stuff besides N/SS. Hell the last time out I foot braked 4 rds in Super Pro/Top. The logger is completely removable. My car has been checked at NMCA more than once.
Doug

If you are running heads up, get every ounce out of the car type events, I am all for the sensors and data they can provide.
If you are bracket or index racing I do not think they should ever be in the car. All you need them for is one good weekend of data gathering and then use the data with todays ignitions to make or write the "perfect map" or timing curve to achieve the perfect run over and over. Is it a full proof science? No. I believe it is a hell of a lot better than reading weather from day to day, tuning and dialing or setting up for your index without it. To each his own I guess. I just dont agree with the sensors ever touching a car that is in a bracket type event.

Agreed. The reason we built this thing in the first place was to sort the car. Once its done. Its set and forget unless a different combo is tried. We regularly run against cars with starting line chips, trans brakes, air shifters and Racepac.
Doug

Yeah, I'm going to spend over a $1000 for a data logging setup, then only use it once... LOL.

Doug, don't you know if you enter a NSS race once, you can never race another class again?

All I am going to say is as long as MSD Grids are allowed in NSS what does it matter.

Thanks,
Casey FJ

Plenty of logging capability in a Grid. I know everyone thinks they are a great way to "cheat" but if laying dots is cheating then you can use plenty of other things besides a grid to do that. Most the EFI controllers out there will data log and can be made to ride dots and repeat as well. The only way around it is gonna be a mandatory rule for something like a 6 or 7al box with no piggy back boxes or any logging data. NHRA actually just amended the rulebook to include things like laptops and ignition/efi tunes to be a random teched item for all classes. It no doubt is happening by racers lots of ways to "hide" programming in the software of any digital style controller.

IMO if I am data logging I prefer racepak stuff. Simple to use and pretty reliable as well. Where they are legal. If a grid is allowed then I see ZERO reason to not allow a racepak

Yea Al, that is what I am saying... The Grid is legal, but a stand alone data logger is not within NSS rules. Makes no sense.

Casey FJ

only the ignition module of the grid is legal in NSS - really no point in using the grid unless you can use the whole thing

Why so dead set against data logging?? A Racepak sportsman is under 1000.00 and once you have one, you wonder how you ever raced without it. Yes im a heads up type racer, but i see plenty of 10.00 and 8.50 guys repeating and i mean 8.500 with data loggers. Or is that your point? amkes it too easy for bracket racers to dial in a car. Whatever the case, you see so much useful info that you would never learn otherwise..

I'm not deadest against data loggers. In fact, I have a RacePak in my car. Not sure why some classes are against them, when the rules say no delay boxes, or trans brakes. If it's just doing the basic stuff, what's the big deal? I have one to monitor clutch slippage. I know one series of racing that will not allow the racers to enter multiple classes, because it gives them an "unfair" advantage.