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New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection
Posted By: 440Jim
New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 03:38 PM
Oh my! This injection is awesome.
Throttle response is instant and wicked. Be careful doing the burn out. I hit the rev limiter once when I hit it too hard.
The bottom line:
1.25 sixty foot
5.76 at 118 mph at the 1/8 mile mark,
9.12 at 145 mph at the 1/4 mile finish line.
The air was mineshaft, about -600 to -1000 ft density altitude, but with the sunshine the track was hooking. In fact I need to do more work to calm the wheel stand. It tripped the sixty foot timers with the rear tires everytime I smacked the launch (footbrake). The 1.25 was a quick roll-on of the throttle. I did some things to try and stop it, but I need to do more.
Combo summary:
3190 lbs back half Dart with ladder bars and stock front end
4.250" Stroke Callies Crankshaft, 4.375" bore, 511 CID
Flat top pistons, 68cc heads, 13.5 CR
Comp MM305S-10 solid lifter cam (flat tappet, no roller)
305º/320º@.020", 279º/287º@.050", 197º/200º@.200", 110 LSA
.690"/.670" lift with 1.6 rockers (.650/.630 at 1.5)
Indy 440-1 Heads 350 cfm at .700", 368 cfm at .800"
Indy 400-3 intake
Ron's Flying Toilet fuel injection (4.1" dia, 1800 cfm rated)
Custom built headers, 2-1/8” tubes 32" long, 4” collector
I am running 4.30 gears with 32" tall tires, 727 standard gear ratios.
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 03:45 PM
I think you have a 8 second timeslip waiting....
How much do you think it will differ between the alky and the E85??
Posted By: greendart408
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:00 PM
Quote:
Oh my! This injection is awesome.
Throttle response is instant and wicked. Be careful doing the burn out. I hit the rev limiter once when I hit it too hard.
The bottom line:
1.25 sixty foot
5.76 at 118 mph at the 1/8 mile mark,
9.12 at 145 mph at the 1/4 mile finish line.
The air was mineshaft, about -600 to -1000 ft density altitude, but with the sunshine the track was hooking. In fact I need to do more work to calm the wheel stand. It tripped the sixty foot timers with the rear tires everytime I smacked the launch (footbrake). The 1.25 was a quick roll-on of the throttle. I did some things to try and stop it, but I need to do more.
Combo summary:
3190 lbs back half Dart with ladder bars and stock front end
4.250" Stroke Callies Crankshaft, 4.375" bore, 511 CID
Flat top pistons, 68cc heads, 13.5 CR
Comp MM305S-10 solid lifter cam (flat tappet, no roller)
305º/320º@.020", 279º/287º@.050", 197º/200º@.200", 110 LSA
.690"/.670" lift with 1.6 rockers (.650/.630 at 1.5)
Indy 440-1 Heads 350 cfm at .700", 368 cfm at .800"
Indy 400-3 intake
Ron's Flying Toilet fuel injection (4.1" dia, 1800 cfm rated)
Custom built headers, 2-1/8” tubes 32" long, 4” collector
I am running 4.30 gears with 32" tall tires, 727 standard gear ratios.
That is awesome Jim. I was waiting to here about your track test with the toilets as I am going to be running them for the first time also soon.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:05 PM
Great Jim... congrats... I am assuming this was with
meth for the time being
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:09 PM
Over achiever LOL
Man that Dart, seems to run about a second faster than it should...Very nice..
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:21 PM
Man, that puppy`s flying.......tame the wheelies and you just might see a 8-sec slip.
Sure wish I could race on that track in those conditions. Congrats.
Posted By: FY1TA
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:28 PM
That's flyin .
Posted By: Wv68charger
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:37 PM
Nice Jim
you gonna make back up to Pittsburgh for the classic this year?
Posted By: rt66jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:38 PM
Jim, that is awesome. As Mike suggested was it on Meth or E85. Again very nice numbers. It runs great with a flat tappet cam and by no means huge lift. I would expect it to be easy on the valve train.
. Jim
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 04:53 PM
Yes, this was on race alky (methanol). I plan to tune the system with the fuel it was intended and they have experience with. That way we know what the motor likes for a tune. Then I will recalibrate for E-85, maybe May? I need to get summer blend E-85 in the 82-85% ethanol range for my 13.5 CR (IMO). The last pass I was able to get 12.3 A/F ratio on the LM-1 wideband sensor (gasoline scale, actual Lambda=0.837, actual A/F=5.35)
I think the E-85 will be 0.10 slower than race alky. I am told that the race alky will not change ET as much with the weather going from spring to summer heat. So the difference between alky and gasoline will be greater in the summer. I am impressed with the alky, but I like the economy of the E-85. It is between alky and gas in performance, cooling, amount used, etc. But the E-85 at less than $2.00/gallon is the cheapo way to run high compression (13.5).
Although right now, the local track is selling alky for $3.95/gallon or $190 to fill your drum with 55 gallons ($3.45/gallon). I got a lead on a MD supplier for $145/drum ($2.64/gallon). I expect alky (methanol) to get cheaper as the summer comes (industrial reasons). If it gets close to $100/drum, I may run it longer...
I will try to get to Pittsburgh for the CC event.
Posted By: 70Dustmite440
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 05:01 PM
Posted By: RapidusMaximus
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 05:07 PM
Good job Jim...I switched from an alky carb to the Toilet years ago...they REALLY work well...added a Primer Plus system 3 years ago...now I get the best of both worlds...warm up on gas...race on alky...
Posted By: Dodgeman67
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 05:34 PM
What has to be done to run the E85 in the toilet system?
BTW good job on your new best.
How much did it pick your car up when it was all said and done?
Posted By: Bubba
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 05:58 PM
Too cool Jim..
Imagine... A Roller Cam & Vacuum Pump... 8.80's ? Regardless, I know you got it the way you want it so don't go changing too much. I want a fying Toilet.... What can those things be had for used? and what are all the components that make up the system .
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 06:10 PM
Jim I know you bought yours used but what do you think
you have into your system(dollar wise) with all the assorted parts
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Posted By: sixpackgut
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 06:42 PM
Posted By: cudabin
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 06:50 PM
Way to Fly Jim !!!
What nozzles and return pill were you using?? James Monroe provided 37 nozzles for my Terminator and said to start with a 87 pill.
Although i have the black gear pump which may affect the fuel curve???
Hope to learn from your experience so please keep posting
Cheers,
Arnie
Posted By: Bigcube
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 06:55 PM
Nice number Jim
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 08:29 PM
Posted By: tjmarcus1
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 08:32 PM
jim for the sake of info, can you post your old best on gas, then e-85, and now methanol? also, did you change the timing any? how about getting the motor to warm up?
Posted By: MegaDart
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 08:33 PM
nice job Jim. Were the gains pretty much what you expected??
I remember the throttle response, like liquid nitrous!!
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 09:14 PM
Whats the tune up? Bout 93 Pill, and 38 nozzles?
Which pump do your run 0-1/2? Anyways, what was your gain in 60ft?
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 10:12 PM
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What has to be done to run the E85 in the toilet system?
BTW good job on your new best.
How much did it pick your car up when it was all said and done?
I am told that the race alky will not change ET as much with the weather going from spring to summer heat. So the difference between alky and gasoline will be greater in the summer. It looks like 2 tenths in cold weather, 3 or 4 in hot weather (compared to a good Dominator carb).
Some people have reported just changing the bypass pill to run E-85. But I am expecting 8 smaller nozzle jets, plus the pill change. The kits come with about 8-10 pills, but they make a larger size range if you need it. There are various pump sizes too, so there are a bunch of factors to consider when buying a used system. When you buy it new, they size it all for you to get you started.
A new toilet system with the current (improved gear pump) is $1745. Then you need a front fuel cell and the braided lines. The kit comes with the #10 AN fuel filter. I got a good deal on a used system close to my needs for $800, then I bought the fuel cell and the #10 line from the tank to the pump (he gave me the filter and the two #6 AN lines from the pump to the Toilet and the return line to the tank. Then there are options like the primer system, or the primer plus system to both start and warm up on gas, while running alky down the track.
www.ronsfuel.com
www.killerrons.com (James Monroe - good company representative)
They have a good description on the system and its parts, read the FAQ and the other descriptive pages on both web sites.
Dave, my previous best was in mineshaft air too, so that is an even comparison. I expect the summer difference to be even more.
Arnie, this is what I am running, but James Monroe is the man to size it. There are factors I don't understand. 0.033" nozzle jets, 0.098" bypass pill, 0.5 vane pump. The previous owner gave me 3 sets of nozzle jets (36, 37, 38). He was making over 100 hp more than me however.
TJ, on gas with the Dominator carb (my car always liked the Dominator) it went 9.26 at 142 in similar conditions. On E-85 with a non-optimum 950 carb (small venturi 1.375") it went 9.30 at 138 mph. But in the summer the differences were larger and will be more comparing to alky/injected. I was only running 30 degrees timing while I tuned yesterday. I planned to go to 34, but ran out of time. So, there may be a little more in it, if I can control the wheel stand. I was able to warm it up by pulling out the shut off valve and idling back to the pits before shutting it off. I never used the electric fan to cool it down, it was mid 50's air temp.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 10:34 PM
James Monroe set my Terminators up with #38 nozzels with a #86 pill in the return.
It wanted to run a little hot more like it did on gas so I went to #39 nozzels and stayed with the #86 pill cured the problem. I had a needle bearing in the roller on a lifter go out at the last race and thought it was leaning out on the top end. When I talked to James I did not know that and he told me to go to a # 80 pill on the return. I hope in the next 2-3 weeks to try it again with the #80 but will also have my #86 with me just in case.
I am also thinking about trying about 20% Nitro in it with the Terminators. Should work also with the Flying Toilets. Has anyone else thought about this?
Last season was my first time trying alcohol with a New Engine also,but I am sold on the Terminators running alcohol the throttle respone is un-real.
Posted By: 540dust
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 10:38 PM
Cool, what was your finish line rpm ? Good numbers for sure, how long have you been running 1.6 rockers ? I've always been afraid of floating the valvetrain with the higher ratio.... Good numbers, what if you used a brake ?
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 10:46 PM
440Jim, If you cannot get it warmed up leaning it out fast enought. Take the rod that goes to the barrel valve and lengthed it about 2 slats. That would be like going from 32% down to 30%.
I also got off the topic in the above post. I brought mine used it was only run a few times. But after having to have the pump resize and all the other changes to match it up for my engine. I did not save much money at all.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 11:41 PM
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Cool, what was your finish line rpm ? Good numbers for sure, how long have you been running 1.6 rockers ?
It was around 7200 at the finish line, I need to check it a few more times. I have been running 1.6 rockers for 4-5 years. It does take better springs to control a higher ratio, and I am pushing the flat tappet with 150 seat, 440 open.
MRMOPAR570,
I am running a lean barrel valve setting (12-14%) even though many say to run richer. I have the gray barrel valve (not the purple one) and it flows more fuel than the purple (which likes a higher leak down setting at idle). No hesitation and great results with a weird (leaner) idle setting. But on my LM-1, the idle is not lean, but James Monroe says don't pay attention to A/F at idle, only at higher throttle settings. Set it to make it work at launch and throttle response.
Posted By: AndyF
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 11:48 PM
Wow, you're really close to a 8 sec time slip with a flat tappet cam. Some weight off the front end might be enough to get you there.
At 145 mph you might be able to pick up some MPH by improving the aero. Maybe a wing and/or a spoiler would help out a bit.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/22/09 11:59 PM
Yea this car is a flying brick!
Maybe I will try the lexan behind the grill again. It didn't do anything a couple years ago when I tried it, but it was slower then.
Posted By: afxcoronet
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 12:10 AM
That's awesome Jim...
Posted By: 540dust
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 12:51 AM
Have you got any adjustment to take any bite out of the ladder bar ? Do you run 1.6's all the way across or just the intakes , and what springs are you running ? Alcohol doesn't seem to favor the mineshaft air like gas does. 1.25 footin' it is gittin er done for sure.
???? Was that 1.25 with the back tires ???
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 02:04 AM
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Have you got any adjustment to take any bite out of the ladder bar ? Do you run 1.6's all the way across or just the intakes , and what springs are you running ? Alcohol doesn't seem to favor the mineshaft air like gas does. 1.25 footin' it is gittin er done for sure.
???? Was that 1.25 with the back tires ???
No, that was rolling the throttle on to avoid the wheel stand getting too high and long. The passes that tripped the sixty foot timer with the rear tires were:
1.349
1.344
1.347
And my car is the long 111" wheelbase, so that could be close to a 1.24 sixty if the fronts would have tripped the timer.
I am running Isky valve springs, #9005, installed at 1.95". 1.6 rockers on both the intake and exhaust.
I have the ladder bars on the lowest hole in the front. This has helpped reduce the hit on the tires, saving the sidewalls for longer life. I run inner tubes, 14" wide rims, and 11 psi. The last set of slicks I stopped using at 193 passes, and the current ones have 151 passes on them.
Posted By: tjmarcus1
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 02:25 AM
jim it could be time to tie the front down.
Posted By: 540dust
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 02:27 AM
I'm not going to say the G word, but I'm thinking it.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 02:34 AM
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jim it could be time to tie the front down.
Yes, more changes are needed. I have travel restrictors under the front A-arm bumper that I have used for years to tune the wheel stand. With the carb, on the best day, I would put 0.187" under it. But I had .375" under it for this test and tune day! I will stiffen the front shocks for next time and maybe reduce the travel even more.
On a ladder bar car, would softening or stiffening the rear shocks reduce the weight transfer? Previously, my car never squatted or raised much at all.
540Dust, yea, yea, I know PG.
But I might try taking out my 8" converter and putting a 9" one in that is tighter (lower stall speed).
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 02:46 AM
Jim i have found that truning up the T bars in the front is almost like a stiffer front spring. May be try a turn or two to see if that takes some stored energy out of them, this might help calm your wheelstands a little
Your car is bad a$$ for sure!!
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 02:54 AM
Jim, congrats. I'd love to see a video of your 1/4 passes. Nice winter upgrade. Keep it up and get a video !!
Posted By: Kevins493
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 03:49 AM
Congrats on the new best! Everyone I know that has switched to a toilet said they'd never go back. If you can get the chassis to handle it, it should be deadly consistent too.
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Posted By: wildcargo
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 01:45 PM
WOW
MOM
WOW
. Jim you just keep getting faster way to go.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 01:47 PM
Congrats Jim! That's awesome!
CHIP
Posted By: cudabunch
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 04:09 PM
Congrats Jim,
what size valves are in the heads?
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 04:28 PM
Great numbers...WOW gotta love that air too. Sounds like the car is working well to. We were in 3000-4400' of air this weekend in Vegas.
What kind of DA do you typically see in the summer months? Be curious to see how well it runs then, always heard the alky rule about the DA swings. Just never run the stuff to see. Be interested to see what you come up with.
Posted By: gregsdart
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 04:51 PM
Hey a big congrats on a very successful first outing! Thats rockin, man!
Ever thought of trying some M5 methonal from Vp? Supposed to be worth .05 or so. that coupled with radial drag slicks and a spot on tune, with the ladderbars up a hole just might put it into the 8s!!
I know you bracket race, but thought you just "might" want to try this stuff for braggin rights, although you have plenty to brag about as is!
Posted By: 340RICK
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 08:07 PM
Thats really impressive for your first time out with the toilet.
Stiffer shocks or limiters on the front????
Im sure less wheelstand would equal more ET.... But i know you like the traction that the wheelsup launches provide for consitancy.
But WOW that is really flying
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/23/09 10:11 PM
I found that plug gap was very sensitive in the alky injected Rons toilet setup, just some food for thought.
I made more than one change at a time, cause I knew they would both be in the right direction. One was a new set of plugs that I gaped kinda wide like .048-.050. The car slowed down from a 4.90 in the heat to 4.93-4.94 It took me awhile to figure it out too.
My ignition system was probably border line to began with, being a large engine with lots of compression 15:1+ the 6AL must not have had the oomph for that many rpms. 7400+
Anyways, gaped the plugs back down to mid .030 and the e/t responded
Posted By: BradH
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 01:16 AM
Posted By: cudabin
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 01:24 AM
Hey Jim,
I am no expert, but according to Monte Smith, on a ladder bar car you stiffen the rear shock extension to reduce wheelies...
Perhaps the increased torque from the Alcohol will allow a higher ladder bar setting and still hit the tires enough to hook?
Also you might raise the air pressure 1/4 to 1/2 a pound and see if you can get a "little slippage" or wheel speed as they call it?
Interesting that you ran 30 degrees. Ron's manaul says to increase timing vs. gas.
Please post again when you try the 34 degrees.
Cheers,
Arnie
Posted By: Sport440
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 01:27 AM
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Thats really impressive for your first time out with the toilet.
That Jim does his homework before he makes a change. Congrats Jim, I think your the Flat tappet King of ET around here. mike
Posted By: Runner
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 02:23 AM
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Quote:
Thats really impressive for your first time out with the toilet.
That Jim does his homework before he makes a change. Congrats Jim, I think your the Flat tappet King of ET around here. mike
it would be really cool to see the car get into the 8s n/a with a flat tappet cam.
Posted By: ProSport
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 02:50 AM
Simply amazing Jim.
Posted By: AndyF
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 05:30 AM
I agree. 8 secs with a flat tappet door slammer is way cool. Need to get that car in one of the mags.
Posted By: B3422W5
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 02:02 PM
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/24/09 11:41 PM
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Congrats Jim, what size valves are in the heads?
These heads have 2.25" intake valves, but the porting is just middle of the road, nothing outstanding in the mid lifts.
Al,
In the summer we often get 2500 ft DA, with lots of humidity. The track is at 80 ft elevation, so if the sun is shineing on a 50 degree spring day with high pressure...
Rick,
I put double the front end travel limiter in to try and stop the excessive wheel stand, but it was not enough. I will increase the damping on the front shocks, add more travel limiting and see what else I can come up with (my fiberglass trunk lid would get 25 lbs off the back). And in warmer weather it should calm down some too. And if I have to move the ladder bar front mount up, I will (but it hurts the tire sidewall life).
Rapid Transit,
Thanks for the tip. I have always run 0.035" spark plug gap with my MSD digital 6 and coil. I don't believe in the big gaps. I did put new plug wires and distributor cap on for this year. I was running last year's Autolite AR3933 plugs that had 23 runs on them. I have a new set of NGK R5671A-9 ready to go.
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cudabin:
I am no expert, but according to Monte Smith, on a ladder bar car you stiffen the rear shock extension to reduce wheelies...
Thanks, I will give that a try, they are single adjustable. And I remember years ago I softened them to improve hook (weight transfer?) with the smaller engine. I started at 30 degree ignition timing just to be safe not knowing if the initial tune was lean.
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Congrats Jim, I think your the Flat tappet King of ET around here. mike
540Dust has a Duster with a 540 engine running the Comp 324/0.650" cam running my ETs. I forget the exact number and his weight.
Posted By: 540dust
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/25/09 01:33 AM
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540Dust has a Duster with a 540 engine running the Comp 324/0.650" cam running my ETs. I forget the exact number and his weight.
2770 lb car 220lb driver Back halved 4-link Al low deck block.
Posted By: Bigbeep
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/25/09 02:39 AM
Jim, That is awesome. Good job.
I might pm you when I get ready to install mine. I just bought a used unit, less pump and drive assembly. Do you know the ratio between the pump and crank?
I doubt I install it this year as I am going to be sorting out too many new items as it is and have spent enough money already. LOL Beep
Posted By: TonyS451
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/25/09 02:47 AM
Nice Job, Jim. You are very consistent at going faster every single year. So close to an 8 second pass, and with a flat tappet cam to boot. Very impressive.
Posted By: atoetly
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/25/09 04:12 PM
Jim I have been trying to chase your ets with similar combos and of course the flat tappet cams and can't even come close. Very impressive.
Posted By: Darrell
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/26/09 12:10 AM
Dang Jim, I've always told other racers-spectaters your combo with your ET&MPH and they looked at me like I had 2 heads!
What am I going to tell them now?
Great Job!
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/26/09 12:26 AM
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Do you know the ratio between the pump and crank?
My Ron's system has a crank pulley with 24 "teeth", and the pump pulley has 48, so it is 2 to 1. Check out the installation kit diagrams on the Ron's site:
www.ronsfuel.com
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/26/09 12:33 AM
Darrell,
I always had fun prior to 2008 when I ran the MP Stage VI heads. They make funny faces when I tell them that. The only reason I stopped running them (they are for the backup motor now), is I didn't want to put alcohol (ethanol or methanol) on the epoxy in those ports. So I bought some used Indy 440-1 heads that flow roughly the same ( at .700").
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/26/09 08:43 PM
440Jim, Have you tried the Champion C59CX plugs that is what Indy told me to run? Was wondering if the NGK R5671A-9 plugs were better?My build sheet from Indy called for champion 794 gapped at .020 but the C59CX that they say is better is the side gap plugs. Its looks like you have really got the tune up right on yours.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/27/09 01:53 AM
MRMOPAR570,
I have never run Champion spark plugs in my race car.
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I was running last year's Autolite AR3933 plugs that had 23 runs on them. I have a new set of NGK R5671A-9 ready to go.
In the past I have also run the NGK plugs with the projected tip, such as R5672A-
Posted By: Bigbeep
Re: New Best with the Flying Toilet Injection - 03/27/09 04:16 AM
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Do you know the ratio between the pump and crank?
My Ron's system has a crank pulley with 24 "teeth", and the pump pulley has 48, so it is 2 to 1. Check out the installation kit diagrams on the Ron's site:
www.ronsfuel.com
Jim, thanks. I was on that site a couple of days ago and looked at that, but wasn't sure if that ratio would change with engine combo. I seen on their part page they have different crank gears and that had me wondering. Glad to hear you are having such success.
