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7 sec car Radiator

Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

7 sec car Radiator - 10/10/19 07:40 PM

i would know which radiator is correct for a 7 second car ... my engine is 572 nitrous .. if start the pass at 140 degree al is ok finish line at 210 ... if start at 170 ... finish line at 230 .. need new aluminium bigger radiator ? no air from the grille ....

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Posted By: justinp61

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/10/19 09:36 PM

I'd try a bigger fan first since the front is closed off.
Posted By: madscientist

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/10/19 10:11 PM

That much temp gain in that short time says your radiator is WAY TOO SMALL and your water pump doesn't flow enough. You have enough airflow moving down the track that the fan isn't a factor.
Posted By: FastmOp

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/10/19 10:55 PM


By the time it gets hot your going to shut it off 😛
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 01:45 AM

That much gain that quick is not the radiators fault. Are you running the thing lean? Timing slow? You can usually see the difference in the temperature gauge by moving the jetting a few numbers one way or the other.
Posted By: tubtar

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 01:49 AM

You're effectively pulling air through about 1/2 of the core.
Something that moves the fan back and incorporates a shroud like the HHR fans will make a difference.
Just circulating coolant through it and not transferring some of the heat to passing air doesn't help much.
Posted By: n20mstr

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 11:30 AM

why are you starting so high ?
my car I try to roll through the water at 90-100
stage at 110-120
return road usually 145

If you look at a lot of heads up racers, they have small rads to save weight. If using a small rad and it doesn't have the capacity, just start lower.
As long as it comes up on the trans brake, your good
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by n20mstr
why are you starting so high ?


This would be my first question....My car goes in as cold as possible, they make more power this way too(cold water, warm oil). You could use a shroud as that will make sure you have airflow across the entire radiator. I use a small sirocco style radiator with a shroud and my car only sees over 140 when my opponent takes forever to stage ie turbo guy. My car runs low 7's N/A

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Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by justinp61
I'd try a bigger fan first since the front is closed off.
yep
..this was my idea... two fans ..but im undecided if try also bigger radiator
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by FastmOp

By the time it gets hot your going to shut it off 😛
yep ! but the problem is when pass is close ! no time for make cold !
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by CMcAllister
That much gain that quick is not the radiators fault. Are you running the thing lean? Timing slow? You can usually see the difference in the temperature gauge by moving the jetting a few numbers one way or the other.
no Lean... and very Fast ... a little bit rich ... best ET is 7.82@175
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by n20mstr
why are you starting so high ?
my car I try to roll through the water at 90-100
stage at 110-120
return road usually 145

If you look at a lot of heads up racers, they have small rads to save weight. If using a small rad and it doesn't have the capacity, just start lower.
As long as it comes up on the trans brake, your good

you right ... but is from a pass and another pass is 15 minute .. no time for make cold ... i started minimum at 120 .. i can start at 90 ? but some time for wait before burnout go fast from 100 to 140 ...
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 07:45 PM

https://youtu.be/WWxrBGgS1kI


you can see the water gauge on lower .. the second from right side
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 08:05 PM

DEMON 572

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Posted By: rickseeman

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 08:17 PM

C & R Racing 317-293-4100 Radiators https://www.crracing.com/

Ron Davis Radiators 623-877-5000 http://www.rondavisradiators.com/

Either of these would be good
Posted By: n20mstr

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Raffaplymouth60
Originally Posted by n20mstr
why are you starting so high ?
my car I try to roll through the water at 90-100
stage at 110-120
return road usually 145

If you look at a lot of heads up racers, they have small rads to save weight. If using a small rad and it doesn't have the capacity, just start lower.
As long as it comes up on the trans brake, your good

you right ... but is from a pass and another pass is 15 minute .. no time for make cold ... i started minimum at 120 .. i can start at 90 ? but some time for wait before burnout go fast from 100 to 140 ...


Take a note from Stock/Super stock guys. Take you upper hose off rad, dump 5 gals in there and let it come out the top of the rad. If you want rig up a hose that you can slip on the rad, and let the water flow into a bucket. OR get real creative and use two buckets with a pump, fill one 5 gal and use a pump to pump it through the engine and into another empty 5 gal bucket. Cheap mans chiller
You can get a cheap digital gauge from Jegs or Summit that goes down real low. Mine was 50* this past weekend. Now you can make sure you are 90* in the lanes.
Don't know if you are, but towing up helps a lot.
YOu have paired exh on your engine, that's a hot spot you don't need for nitrous use, run it cool even if just for that reason

Posted By: AndyF

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/11/19 10:46 PM

Maybe consider putting a small duct for air from the grill. At you speeds you won't need much. One 3 inch hole in the grill could feed a lot of air to the radiator.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/12/19 12:59 AM

Mine is completely closed off as well with no issues. My Cuda was closed up as well with a tow row sirocco radiator an even hot lapping it NEVER saw 190. Fwiw my Cuda went 7.94 171 NA at 29752
Posted By: racerhog

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/12/19 11:12 PM

1 question comes to mind..... Do you have or are you using a flow restrictor in the thermostat housing?
Also, Double check and make sure you have good flow and the Pump is flow well.
I think I would also check the inlet and outlet flow of the radiator. Some of these radiators are really slow flowing from very small tubes.
Keep chipping at it Raffa.... Looking good smile
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/19/19 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by racerhog
1 question comes to mind..... Do you have or are you using a flow restrictor in the thermostat housing?
Also, Double check and make sure you have good flow and the Pump is flow well.
I think I would also check the inlet and outlet flow of the radiator. Some of these radiators are really slow flowing from very small tubes.
Keep chipping at it Raffa.... Looking good smile
Hola Hog ! i don't have any restrictor in the pump !
Posted By: racerhog

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 10/20/19 06:39 PM

Is it possible that you have air trapped in the cooling system? Looks like the highest point is the thermostat housing. maybe needs a bleed screw to just to be purged the air out of the system?
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/11/20 08:12 PM

Hello Guys ! i bought a new Big Radiator... im working for installation... but also with this the water neck look like a little bit higher than radiator ... i hope can make air in the circuit ... im also undecided if put a reservoir tank or not ?

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Posted By: HardcoreB

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/14/20 01:06 PM

I'm going to mention the obvious so i dont hope to insult anyone here. I see both radiator have the inlet and outlet on the same tank...I'm going to assume that these are both crossflow radiators otherwise water will follow the least path of resistance.
Posted By: Skeptic

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/14/20 03:52 PM

If you look carefully you can see the dividers in the tanks.
Posted By: Leigh

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/15/20 01:03 AM

The beginning of round robin is reality. So, ultimate cool downs are a fantasy. Especially with my one man crew: me. I stage at a temp that my cooling system can deal with on that day. Some weekends it’s 110, others, 140.
Posted By: BradH

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/15/20 04:14 PM

OK, I know the coffee hasn't kicked in when my brain sees the post title and translates it as "7 sec car Radio"... coffee
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/24/20 08:49 PM

Hello , got is now hoses and new billet water neck filler .... is a little bit higher than the radiator ... i hope no more air inside.. expansion tank will be from water filler , i installed 25lb cap in the radiator and 19 lb cap on the filler

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Posted By: 1980volare

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/25/20 12:47 PM

My junk runs mid to low 8s, I run a cheap summit brand one,i think it’s for a camaro or something. 3 core, mounted under the trunk floor, Taurus fan, meziere electric pump. Can cruise all day never gets over 170-180
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/25/20 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by 1980volare
My junk runs mid to low 8s, I run a cheap summit brand one,i think it’s for a camaro or something. 3 core, mounted under the trunk floor, Taurus fan, meziere electric pump. Can cruise all day never gets over 170-180

Apples to oranges here. A new style engine w/ a turbo won't build nearly the amount of heat as the OP's engine will. I have several friends w/ GM LS powered turbo cars that are FAST and the cooling systems they use (like yours) make me jealous, lol.
Posted By: Raffaplymouth60

Re: 7 sec car Radiator - 02/25/20 03:52 PM

This is 7.80 car ,with 350 of nitrous shot , in italy in the summer ... 95/100 f
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