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741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car?

Posted By: grancuda

741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 05:18 AM

I have always ran 742 & 489 cases & never had an issue. I have 4.10 742 now in my car & wanting to swap to 3.90 gears which I already have in a 741 case I had in a truck & they were quiet & good running but it’s in the 741 case which I’ve heard bad things about.

Car is 3090lbs & running 8” slicks with an auto,
Posted By: dvw

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 05:22 AM

Wouldn't scare me in the least.
Doug
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 08:24 AM

I ran a 741 3.91 SG in my Valiant on spray with a brake. 3340# and went 12:00@110. It's still alive.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 08:38 AM

My 1969 Dart GTS ran 11.22 at 122 MPH foot braking a 440 with the original 741 clutch type posi with the original 3.91 gears more than once, your good up
Posted By: moparx

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 06:50 PM

this is a timely discussion for sure.
i'm in negotiations for an engine from a member, and the package includes a 727 with a brake. i was considering changing out the valve body, because my charger [around 4k with my butt in the seat] has a 3.91/741, leaf springs, and 12.5x29 tire combo that isn't going to be changed. the converter included is a lupo 4200 or so. i figured foot braking is for me. i never used a brake, they were not invented when i got out of the "fun". laugh2
anyway, the 741 case has me wondering as well. especially as my combo is considerably heavier than the OP's setup.
beer
Posted By: FurryStump

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 06:53 PM

The real issue with the 741 is the lack of new gear options out there. Which is not an issue for you. As to strength the 741 is very under appreciated. I wouldn’t hesitate to run it.
Posted By: justinp61

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By FurryStump
The real issue with the 741 is the lack of new gear options out there. Which is not an issue for you. As to strength the 741 is very under appreciated. I wouldn’t hesitate to run it.


iagree
Posted By: AndyF

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 07:13 PM

Should work fine for a long time. A buddy of mine had a BB Duster that he drove to work. That car went 10.90's in street trim with a 8 3/4 out back. He never had any issues with the rearend.
Posted By: moparx

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 07:14 PM

thanks guys ! that puts my mind at ease ! hope the OP doesn't hate me for the interruption ..... spank
beer
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 09:50 PM

"Back in the day" when Top Fuel dragsters changed from the Olds rear end to the 8 3/4", they would go to a wrecking yard and pick up any 3.91 one-legged pumpkin they could find and most didn't know the difference in pinion sizes. Lots of 741's went in the sevens at over 200 mph with few failures. Of course the slicks back then....
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/26/18 11:39 PM

I ran a 741 case 8-3/4", 3.91:1 ratio sure-grip in my #4,150 Charger that ran in the mid 12's for 10 years. No issues with the gears, but when the car started running quicker than 11.80's the limited slip started making poping noises. I never fixed the limited slip unit, and just swapped in a Strange S60, 4.10:1 gears with a spool.
Posted By: mopar65

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/27/18 03:02 AM

My Friend ran a bunch of 10.20 at 128/129 in the 1/4 with the 741 case. But I don’t remember what gear ratio he had. The car was a low deck 470 in a 68 barracuda convertible.
Posted By: 500ciDuster

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/27/18 03:07 AM

max wedge cars had them and if you measure the output shaft on a 727 they are very close to the pinion shaft diameter
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/27/18 03:45 AM

Moparts:

741; great rear, run it!
742; 8.75's are weak, get a Dana!

LOL

Yeah, I know, application, application, application....
But it's still funny.
Posted By: Skeptic

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/27/18 04:32 AM

Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Moparts:

741; great rear, run it!
742; 8.75's are weak, get a Dana!

LOL

Yeah, I know, application, application, application....
But it's still funny.
It's almost like the pinion isn't the weak spot whistling
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/27/18 04:46 AM

Originally Posted By Skeptic
Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Moparts:

741; great rear, run it!
742; 8.75's are weak, get a Dana!

LOL

Yeah, I know, application, application, application....
But it's still funny.
It's almost like the pinion isn't the weak spot whistling


The smaller pinion gets MORE respect!!! OMG...think about that! Is this some sort of alternative reality???
Posted By: Skeptic

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/27/18 04:48 AM

Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted By Skeptic
Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Moparts:

741; great rear, run it!
742; 8.75's are weak, get a Dana!

LOL

Yeah, I know, application, application, application....
But it's still funny.
It's almost like the pinion isn't the weak spot whistling


The smaller pinion gets MORE respect!!! OMG...think about that! Is this some sort of alternative reality???
It's light weight! with less drag!!! tonguue
Posted By: Twostick

Re: 741 8 3/4 housing - good for 11.99 1/4 - auto car? - 11/27/18 07:45 AM

Originally Posted By Skeptic
Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted By Skeptic
Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Moparts:

741; great rear, run it!
742; 8.75's are weak, get a Dana!

LOL

Yeah, I know, application, application, application....
But it's still funny.
It's almost like the pinion isn't the weak spot whistling


The smaller pinion gets MORE respect!!! OMG...think about that! Is this some sort of alternative reality???
It's light weight! with less drag!!! tonguue


That's just it, it isn't smaller. They all neck down to the same spline diameter. There's a post in the tech archive that shows all the dims and as small as the 741 is perceived to be, it's still bigger than an OEM Ford 9".

Kevin
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