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Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block

Posted By: cudaman1969

Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 05:17 AM

Got an idea of how I should do this but checking with you guys on your ways.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 05:21 AM

You can bolt it together with the heads and put a pressure inlet port and gauge on block plates on the water pump inlet and outlets(both sides) and apply air pressure and get a spray bottle of soapy water and go searching all over the heads and block scope
I've used a torque plate to pressure check aluminum heads that had been welded on, that works also up
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 05:45 AM

Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
You can bolt it together with the heads and put a pressure inlet port and gauge on block plates on the water pump inlet and outlets(both sides) and apply air pressure and get a spray bottle of soapy water and go searching all over the heads and block scope
I've used a torque plate to pressure check aluminum heads that had been welded on, that works also up

So you use air instead of water? At what pressure? Would an engine "see" 20# or more pressure running?
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 06:11 AM

Air pressure works. But you want to pressure test it assembled. If you have one, a leakdown tester will show pressure loss. A squirt bottle with water only works on external surfaces but you can have internal leaks. 20 lbs is plenty - rad caps are rated at what ... 15 psi? So you don't need much more than that.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 06:23 AM

Use my pressure check kit. http://arengineering.com/products/pressure-checking-kit-bb-and-hemi/
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 06:33 AM

Engine in car or bare block on the stand?
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 09:30 AM

Originally Posted By AndyF
That's what I'm talking about up I made my own out of 3/8 plate steel shruggy
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 09:32 AM

Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Engine in car or bare block on the stand?

Your choice, it will, or should test the same either way work Probably easier on the stand so you can look at the back, sides and front of the motor on the stand up
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
You can bolt it together with the heads and put a pressure inlet port and gauge on block plates on the water pump inlet and outlets(both sides) and apply air pressure and get a spray bottle of soapy water and go searching all over the heads and block scope
I've used a torque plate to pressure check aluminum heads that had been welded on, that works also up

So you use air instead of water? At what pressure? Would an engine "see" 20# or more pressure running?

I don't use water in the block or heads tsk Air pressure and soapy water, on the aluminum heads that had cracks and had been welded on already I used 30+ Lbs. of air pressure to make sure they where sealed up after having those welds welded up over again up
Posted By: Digger73

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 05:09 PM

Not to get off subject but, how long should the pressure hold in the system without any loss?

Digger73 (Mike(
Posted By: Clanton

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 05:29 PM

I had rust in the cylinder and I did what I had to to check it. Block check
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 05:35 PM

Unless the leak/crack/hole is really bad, a cast iron block or cylinder head will most likely not show a leak unless you can heat it up. Pressure checking one cold and it not showing any leakage doesn't prove anything.
Posted By: Clanton

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Unless the leak/crack/hole is really bad, a cast iron block or cylinder head will most likely not show a leak unless you can heat it up. Pressure checking one cold and it not showing any leakage doesn't prove anything.
There have been posts with heat coils going into the block moving hot water.I pre heated the block,put in hot water then seald and continued heating it
Posted By: dvw

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 06:14 PM

As to pressure test with no loss. I recently left my Cummins over 24 hours with no pressure lost. Yet when it was warm it would weep coolant that I could smell but not ever see. Turned out I left the head bolt at the very rear under the cowl finger tight. I'd use 30 psi with soap water.
Doug
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 09:24 PM

Quote:
Not to get off subject but, how long should the pressure hold in the system without any loss?


Uh, forever. Anything less would be a leak, right ?!?!?
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 09:26 PM

I've used a propane torch to heat up cast iron to see a crack better, it does make them rascals appear a lot easeir up
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Engine in car or bare block on the stand?

On a stand, bare block. I was going to make a head plate of 1/4 aluminum but the kit said without a head it needed a torque plate.? I figured 40 psi would show any cracks, no mater how hot it is. But that's why I'm asking.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/21/18 11:02 PM

The pressure test rack I used at the machine shop would go to 35 psi (IIRC) and it wouldn't make a crack bubble on a cold cast iron head...one we knew was leaking on the car.
Posted By: rickraw

Re: Pressure check a Hemi or whatever block - 02/22/18 12:33 AM

Shouldn't leak at all if sealed up good. May have a little fluctuation with temperature change.
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