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Coning along

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Coning along - 01/11/18 01:49 AM

It is taking longer than I wanted, but with help from Chris (440pursuit) it is closer now to being done.

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Posted By: humpty

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 01:53 AM

Looking good! What’s the combo?
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 02:46 AM

512 LD, with heavily modified Stage VI heads, 630ish cam, Modified Indy 440 intake, built 727 w/ brake, 3800-4k stall, back halved 4 link car, full cage, 4.56 33x19.5's

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Posted By: 67mprfan

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 03:45 AM

What's your goal for this build
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 04:18 AM

Originally Posted By 67mprfan
What's your goal for this build


go out and have fun. Should run low 10's when all is right
Posted By: ProSport

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 04:37 AM

Lookin Good
Posted By: tex013

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 04:47 AM

nice

Tex
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 05:51 AM

LIKE!!!! up
Posted By: BradH

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 06:03 AM

You know all the epoxy in those runners means your fuel needs to be absolutely alcohol-free, right?

I wonder who added the raised ridges in the port floors... they weren't there when those heads were done originally.
Posted By: lockjaw-express

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 06:28 AM

Nice Paint!

Looks like it will be a fun car at the track!

Mark
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 06:37 AM

I assume the intake runners match the ridges in the port floors. Can anyone school me on this theory? I assume it has to do with splitting the intake charge to minimize the obstruction of the valve stem and guide (?). I’ve never seen this before.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 06:58 AM

I think you got a great deal on that car, looks really good.
Posted By: racerx

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By StealthWedge67
I assume the intake runners match the ridges in the port floors. Can anyone school me on this theory? I assume it has to do with splitting the intake charge to minimize the obstruction of the valve stem and guide (?). I’ve never seen this before.

I'm with you on this one work is this the new modification being done to these heads now?
Posted By: BradH

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By racerx
Originally Posted By StealthWedge67
I assume the intake runners match the ridges in the port floors. Can anyone school me on this theory? I assume it has to do with splitting the intake charge to minimize the obstruction of the valve stem and guide (?). I’ve never seen this before.

I'm with you on this one work is this the new modification being done to these heads now?

One of you should post these questions with that picture on SpeedTalk.com and see what you get for answers.
Posted By: BradH

Re: Coning along - 01/11/18 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
Originally Posted By 67mprfan
What's your goal for this build


go out and have fun. Should run low 10's when all is right

What's it going to weigh? With 500+ cubes, etc., it should be in the 9s, unless is deceptively heavy or the combination of gearing / converter / whatever isn't a good match.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 03:35 AM

The heads were done because of NHRA rules I believe. The ports have been moved and raised. This is a former members engine. It was designed to run 9's. The car is all steel, so I suspect it will be close to 3200 w/ driver and gas. It could probably run 9's on "pump gas". I'm just going to take it easy....
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 06:40 AM

Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By racerx
Originally Posted By StealthWedge67
I assume the intake runners match the ridges in the port floors. Can anyone school me on this theory? I assume it has to do with splitting the intake charge to minimize the obstruction of the valve stem and guide (?). I’ve never seen this before.

I'm with you on this one work is this the new modification being done to these heads now?

One of you should post these questions with that picture on SpeedTalk.com and see what you get for answers.


I guess I should check out SpeedTalk.com. Thanks for the tip, Brad.

If it is in fact to shape the charge past the guide boss & valve stem, it seems this mod would be more effective on the port roof than the floor. If the charge follows the port into the bowl, wouldn’t charge following the upper half of the port cross the guide boss & stem, while the floor charge would fall directly across the valve face (???).
Posted By: BradH

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 03:07 PM

Originally Posted By StealthWedge67
...

If it is in fact to shape the charge past the guide boss & valve stem...

It's not.
Posted By: BradH

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
The heads were done because of NHRA rules I believe. The ports have been moved and raised. This is a former members engine. It was designed to run 9's. The car is all steel, so I suspect it will be close to 3200 w/ driver and gas. It could probably run 9's on "pump gas". I'm just going to take it easy....

Quick history lesson:
1. The castings were mine, originally... had an uncommon feature of CNC chambers, although the ports were as cast.

2. Another member bought them and provided them to the group from Moparts that entered the Engine Masters competition... 2003, IIRC. I believe four different people had their hands on those heads to complete the work. The only one who still posts here on any regular basis is Dwayne Porter.

3. Jim Hanrahan "440Jim" bought them and ran them on his A-body bracket car before going "big" with a new engine and switching to E85 fuel. Any alcohol in the fuel will turn all that epoxy to sh!t.

4. I knew Chris bought them, but didn't know if he ever used them.

The last pictures I'd seen of them did not show the additional floor "wing". I don't know if those were used on all of the ports, or only certain ports, or... ? They aren't part of the original epoxy fill to raise the ports.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 07:07 PM

Brad I thohght they looked familiar but could not see a lot of that port. You can clearly see the "wings" are made from a different epoxy as well. Not sure its the "hot ticket". Be interesting to see how it runs..In the end the OP has the right idea. Build it and have fun with it...
Posted By: dvw

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
The heads were done because of NHRA rules I believe. The ports have been moved and raised. This is a former members engine. It was designed to run 9's. The car is all steel, so I suspect it will be close to 3200 w/ driver and gas. It could probably run 9's on "pump gas". I'm just going to take it easy....


Looks good, but 3200 with driver? Not without a lot of gutting and light pieces. More like 3500-3700.
Doug
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
The heads were done because of NHRA rules I believe. The ports have been moved and raised. This is a former members engine. It was designed to run 9's. The car is all steel, so I suspect it will be close to 3200 w/ driver and gas. It could probably run 9's on "pump gas". I'm just going to take it easy....

Quick history lesson:
1. The castings were mine, originally... had an uncommon feature of CNC chambers, although the ports were as cast.

2. Another member bought them and provided them to the group from Moparts that entered the Engine Masters competition... 2003, IIRC. I believe four different people had their hands on those heads to complete the work. The only one who still posts here on any regular basis is Dwayne Porter.

3. Jim Hanrahan "440Jim" bought them and ran them on his A-body bracket car before going "big" with a new engine and switching to E85 fuel. Any alcohol in the fuel will turn all that epoxy to sh!t.

4. I knew Chris bought them, but didn't know if he ever used them.

The last pictures I'd seen of them did not show the additional floor "wing". I don't know if those were used on all of the ports, or only certain ports, or... ? They aren't part of the original epoxy fill to raise the ports.


yes they were 440Jims heads the entire motor was his. Chris Bought it to use in one of his cars but went a different route. I guess I'll have to find a place that sells 93 non-ethanol gas or just use 110. In any event it should run pretty good I think.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Coning along - 01/12/18 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By dvw
Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
The heads were done because of NHRA rules I believe. The ports have been moved and raised. This is a former members engine. It was designed to run 9's. The car is all steel, so I suspect it will be close to 3200 w/ driver and gas. It could probably run 9's on "pump gas". I'm just going to take it easy....


Looks good, but 3200 with driver? Not without a lot of gutting and light pieces. More like 3500-3700.
Doug


could be.. not sure. hood and deck lid are heavy. But a lot of the floor and trunk is sheet metal....no heater box, man steering and such.
Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: Coning along - 01/13/18 11:47 AM

Looking good. That thing should be a blast. drive
Posted By: 67_Satellite

Re: Coning along - 01/13/18 02:39 PM

Looking very nice. Still considering one of those scoops.
Posted By: ccdave

Re: Coning along - 01/13/18 06:31 PM

That red is outstanding up

Is that E5 red?
Posted By: BradH

Re: Coning along - 01/13/18 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Looking good. That thing should be a blast. drive

X2
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Coning along - 01/13/18 07:23 PM

Originally Posted By ccdave
That red is outstanding up

Is that E5 red?


Viper Red, a member painted the car and sold it to me. it is really nice.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Coning along - 01/13/18 07:43 PM

Sounds like a Moparts car for sure. Seems a lot of members have had a hand in it. Kinda cool..
Posted By: FastmOp

Re: Coning along - 01/13/18 09:19 PM

I'm agree with Al. The story is cool how many members have touched something on that car.

Keep posting pics. I bet it dips in the 9s if you are going to run a roller
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Coning along - 01/14/18 01:33 AM

should run pretty good. faster than I'll run it I'm sure. I doubt I'l ever use the trans brake.
Posted By: 383man

Re: Coning along - 01/15/18 09:53 AM

Very good looking Mopar and you know I like red. up Sounds like it will be a very stout build. Good luck with it and keep us posted on it. wave Ron
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