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Purple shaft cams back ordered forever?

Posted By: pro451bee

Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 03:21 AM

Whats up the forever back order of MOPAR cams?
Posted By: Porter67

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 03:24 AM

Maybe they are rotating the stock or supplier, for the last year summit has dumped at one time or the other almost all the older 90-s kits for $199 shipped, now they seem to be nearly 2x that price.

Or maybe they are just saying F it?

Have you checked ebay for the kit your looking for?
Posted By: Hot 340

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 03:28 AM

Chen Huang's berco brok-ren.
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 03:47 AM

Elvis has left the building.
Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 05:46 PM

When the price for a BB 509 cam kit went to $500, I just assumed that was FCA's way of letting everyone know they weren't interested in selling those anymore.
Posted By: sasquatch

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 05:56 PM

Read along with Todd. Comp Cams Nostalgia Purple PLus. Updated version of the classic with no stupid price and no waiting.....
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 07:08 PM

THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! panic laugh2
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 07:24 PM

Todd is Correct
Nostalgia Purple Plus has nice lobe that makes better power than old Mopar cams and is very easy on the valvetrain
We LOVE'Em and highly suggest you let Todd send you one--You will be very pleased!! The biggest one with some Sidewinder heads in a 440 with compression is a very hot combo
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/20/17 08:15 PM

What do you expect from a company that makes pink clown cars?

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 02:02 AM

Step up and buy a good cam, not some low priced piece of junk designed in the 1970s down twocents
Lots of way better choices out there now on camshaft packages scope
Posted By: pro451bee

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 03:17 AM

Ya what ever , I want to try a 528 solid in my 451 , those noisy fast lobes are not the best for every one.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 08:37 AM

There are a lot of myths and misinformation spread on and through the internet on web sites like this one, especially about parts which are cheap and parts that are good, seldom will you find a good cheap part work
If you want good performance parts buy good ones, if you want cheap parts that will work okay buy the cheapest ones you can find shruggy whistling
Once you have wasted a bunch of money on cheap parts like cam kits and finally buy a good one and degree it and find out how much better it runs you may learn you like the good parts better work scope
Talk is cheap, performance costs more and is harder to get correct shruggy
Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 05:13 PM

I like the Comp XS282S as a great alternative to the MP528 cam in applications where the 2deg tighter lsa won't be a problem.

Of course, you can get something taylored to your specific needs as well.

I have a new BB MP 528 cam I could probably persuaded to part with.
Posted By: @#$%&*!

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 06:27 PM

Originally Posted By fast68plymouth

Of course, you can get something taylored to your specific needs as well.


Indeed, if someone has the specs for their favorite purple-shaft thingy they can look in the lobe catalogs of the bigger companies, find similar lobes and put the separation where they think they need it. You could even paint it purple if you want. There's no need to send money to Italy for a camshaft, support your [local] grinder.
twocents
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Step up and buy a good cam, not some low priced piece of junk designed in the 1970s down twocents
Lots of way better choices out there now on camshaft packages scope


LMAO..........And SO true........... drinking
Posted By: Uncle Barry

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 09:25 PM

I have absolutely no idea as to why anyone would want to use one of those things except for being "nostalgic". Soooo many better options out there.
Posted By: ProSport

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/21/17 10:23 PM

I've always loved the solid purpleshaft cams, they've always been a huge bang for the buck. But now that I've seen where the prices have gone on them I would suggest a custom solid or save up for a good roller.

I bought my 590 solid purpleshaft for '$169 with lifters' from Summit Racing, went 9.89 at 136mph in my 451 motor at 3050 pounds.

My current car has the 557 that I bought off Sport440 for 50 bucks, I bought some solid lifters from Summit for less than a 100 bucks.
I drive the car to the track, run 10.60's and drive it home on 93 octane with 3.23 gears.

So I'm not happy to see that the prices have shot up but I'd never say that they are outdated '70's junk(internet myth). If I were to build a car today to run 9.50's I would have no problem with putting that old 590 in the motor. twocents

Posted By: Porter67

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 01:09 AM

Sure there is always one step better everything, one could say the same thing about a oem front end vs a modern lightweight coil over front end, carb vs fi, ect.

Look at all the gimped up, band aided oem blocks hanging on by a wing and a prayer because cheap asses wont pop for the "real" blocks....

A simple 150 plate kit can balance a easy to drive vs a testy hi compression/roller build in alot of cases.

And really unless a well built street or strip car if its not heads up, but a basic bracket car its still back of the bus vs others in alot of ways.

Blah...Blah.....Blah...

And the kicker is for 9 out of 10 of us here vs a well thought out LS car with a cheap boost kit will leave us all thinking.

Were all running old junk, why split hairs over cams.
Posted By: Sport440

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 03:46 AM

Originally Posted By ProSport
I've always loved the solid purpleshaft cams, they've always been a huge bang for the buck. But now that I've seen where the prices have gone on them I would suggest a custom solid or save up for a good roller.

I bought my 590 solid purpleshaft for '$169 with lifters' from Summit Racing, went 9.89 at 136mph in my 451 motor at 3050 pounds.

My current car has the 557 that I bought off Sport440 for 50 bucks, I bought some solid lifters from Summit for less than a 100 bucks.
I drive the car to the track, run 10.60's and drive it home on 93 octane with 3.23 gears.

So I'm not happy to see that the prices have shot up but I'd never say that they are outdated '70's junk(internet myth). If I were to build a car today to run 9.50's I would have no problem with putting that old 590 in the motor. twocents




I second that opinion. up
Posted By: Iowan

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 07:24 AM

Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By ProSport
I've always loved the solid purpleshaft cams, they've always been a huge bang for the buck. But now that I've seen where the prices have gone on them I would suggest a custom solid or save up for a good roller.

I bought my 590 solid purpleshaft for '$169 with lifters' from Summit Racing, went 9.89 at 136mph in my 451 motor at 3050 pounds.

My current car has the 557 that I bought off Sport440 for 50 bucks, I bought some solid lifters from Summit for less than a 100 bucks.
I drive the car to the track, run 10.60's and drive it home on 93 octane with 3.23 gears.

So I'm not happy to see that the prices have shot up but I'd never say that they are outdated '70's junk(internet myth). If I were to build a car today to run 9.50's I would have no problem with putting that old 590 in the motor. twocents




I second that opinion. up


I'd agree also, a few years back I rounded up all the parts from a 440 I built in the 80s, TRWs 9.5, 452 heads with 2.14 1.81s and just a basic blue print. I had a NOS 557 cam on my shelf so in it went, and for kicks and giggles put it on the dyno, 520hp 545tq..

Not bad for motor you could change the cam and springs and put it in an rv.
Posted By: qwkmopardan

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 08:07 AM

I have pulled hi-tech modern dual pattern roller cams out of engines and went faster with 70s engineered racer brown flat tappets. All this so-called modern technology is just marketing to increase profits.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 09:42 AM

[ twocents quote=qwkmopardan]I have pulled hi-tech modern dual pattern roller cams out of engines and went faster with 70s engineered racer brown flat tappets. All this so-called modern technology is just marketing to increase profits. [/quote]Me thinks your wrong on that tsk
Maybe you need a different brand of solid roller cams, I bought and used a bunch of Racer Browns flat tappet solid lifter cams in the late 1960 and early 1970 when he and Ed where still alive and running the business, once I switch to Cam Dynamics and later to Comp Cams solid flat tappet cams and then later to Comps solid Roller cams my race cars and my customers cars went faster and quicker up
But we did need to use a lot stiffer set of valve springs, matching keepers and retainers and better push rod to get the motors to RPM properly with the roller cams to work well work shruggy
What really surprised me was that the same roller cam specs at .050 compared to the identical flat tappet spec cams would fit in the motors better with out having to cut deeper valve reliefs in the old TRW/Speed Pro high compression race pistons we used back then on SB, BB and Hemi motors boogie
Those modern lobes where way better at making power than the old flat tappet lobes Racer designed and ground, especially the ones he designed and sold to Mopar for the Purple Shaft street program shruggy
Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 05:27 PM

The bottom line is, not every build/combo will need or respond favorably to the fastest ramp, tightest lash, highest lift cam profile available.

There are many applications where the purple cams work just fine.

When they were $199 for a cam/lifter kit, they were a great bargain.
At $399+, they have priced themselves into obsolescence.
Posted By: ProSport

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 06:09 PM

Agree'd ^^^
Posted By: GY3

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By Uncle Barry
I have absolutely no idea as to why anyone would want to use one of those things except for being "nostalgic". Soooo many better options out there.


Put simply? They work! ...or at least they did.

I loved the .528 solid in my '71 'Cuda. I also ran the .484 in a stock 440 in my '63 and it worked perfectly!

Nowdays, I have a hard time giving MP ANY money. They slap their name on someone else's product and mark it up waaay more than they used to! I refuse to run the Mopar Performance logo on anything I own.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 09:10 PM

The nicest thing about these cams is not only did they work, but they didn’t require the spring pressures the cams need now. We ran this crap forever with zero maintenance.
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 09:33 PM

Yes we did. Maximum power is not always the number one consideration. I used an old Cam Dynamics/Mopar .620-.640 Super Stock roller that they sold years ago. Made decent power, valve springs lived a couple of years, didn't break parts. Did everything I wanted it to do in that particular application.
Posted By: crackedback

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 09:35 PM

That old 528 solid is one of the best cams. Just flat out works in is not too crazy for a hottish street car.
Posted By: Iowan

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 09:43 PM

Old junk from the seventy, no problem, I'm old junk from the fiftys.😎
Posted By: RSNOMO

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
We ran this crap forever with zero maintenance.



Over 20 years on a PS...

All kinds of extreme conditions...

Zero 'maintenance'...

Cam;compression;converter since day one...
Posted By: Uncle Barry

Re: Purple shaft cams back ordered forever? - 12/22/17 11:30 PM

Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By Uncle Barry
I have absolutely no idea as to why anyone would want to use one of those things except for being "nostalgic". Soooo many better options out there.


Put simply? They work! ...or at least they did.

I loved the .528 solid in my '71 'Cuda. I also ran the .484 in a stock 440 in my '63 and it worked perfectly!

Nowdays, I have a hard time giving MP ANY money. They slap their name on someone else's product and mark it up waaay more than they used to! I refuse to run the Mopar Performance logo on anything I own.
I didn't say they didn't work. I just wouldn't spend the money on one.
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