The white car makes it's new best.. (((Updated)))

New best last night.. still having problems getting enough fuel through this carburetor. The largest jet that I have is a 164. I know it wasn't the right thing to do but changed to a tiny high-speed air bleed. Trying to accommodate the fuel needs of the motor. The carburetor was not designed for the application it's being used. despite afr's in the high 13s and low 14s.. still managed to rip off a pair of low forties. These small block Mopars are amazing

How big are your needle and seats.. nice run

Book 180s

that's humming for sure. Would love to see a picture of it. Mind posting a couple?

Well its not that so you have another restriction
down the line some where..

Just an ugly old A body

Dang - that thing is hauling! Congrats on the new best. It just hit me: to put those times into perspective, there's an all out race Chevelle that runs at my home track, big block, big tire, 4-link deal on nitrous that runs the same number. You are definitely getting it done with that combo.

And that car is beautiful!

BADASS CAR!!! Congratulations Shiloh... Small Block Rules!!!

The ground wire the right side lights fell off..

Is that picture at Barona or the base ball stadium?

Irwindale

I was going to go but my tow backed out cos of the wind........AWESOME pass.........

Nothing ugly about that, and man that is cooking in that car with a small block. Bet it zings..Very very nice.

Did you end up removing the lowering blocks?

Not yet that's going to be the winter project.. the only thing I did was put some fresh rubber Outback

Better flowing boosters or main well. Check for restriction behind the jets.

Impressive pass for sure !

Impressive pass for sure !
The MPH says there's more. It looks low for the et

Thanks for clarifying the track, I hadn't thought about that track

Is that a new best with new rear tires, that small block is haulin the mail?

Nice work, you have been chipping away at it and it shows. Is it still on e85?

Yeah good stuff, love it !!!!

No E85... he decided it might be a race car.

whats the hp on that thing

That is one badazz Dart!

Wow

Tex

no unfortunately my love for E85 has been put on hold.. just couldn't get where we needed to be with that fuel many signs of detonation. Course we did manage to squeeze 5.60 at123 out of it.. at 3060 lb.. so it is capable of making lots of power..

I won't talk about the Dyno numbers.. because they're meaningless.. according to Wallace it's making 906hp based on ET.. we're hoping to squeeze 5.30s out of it tomorrow at Mooneyes..

Might be your last blast at Irwindale..... wish I could be there

nice run!!

Congrats ! Very nice !

What size front and rear tires are you running?

well done mate that is kicking ass ,i had a little play with the carb on mine the other day why on the dyno your passages my be larger than the jet but the have to be percentage larger or it does restrict flow

That is seriously cool, most over here can only get near that with 572+ cubes at that weight .....I think your under estimating the power in that thing, Wallace for me says its 949hp>

Power to Weight Ratio: 3.22
60 Foot E.T. : 1.20
1/8 Mile E.T. : 5.43
1/8 Mile Trap Speed : 125.18

nice job! good luck at moneys. we were gonna bring the orange dart but pulled out due to the fires. have fun !

Wow. That is an awesome pass. Good luck.

Good luck on the 30.

Did you ever give VP C85 a shot in your E85 tune?

I think the reason why your cars ground strap fell off to subsequently shut off the lights on that right side was that it was winking at all of us.
Great launching and greater amen corner cruising.

From a VERY good source I know Irwindale may stay open w/new ownership since the guy now hasn't paid rent in ages so time will tell and I'm shooting for next Thu. myself since we didn't make it this week...........So cal started the Drag Racing trend but it looks like it moved back East where they race several times a week and pack em in............

I'm happy we picked up some more....

That's getting it done, Man. Good job. 👍

I go full Rod McGregor on the tree and I could possibly hole shot your azz! Nice pass man!!!!!! can't wait to see the vid, and I'm sure they'll be plenty of them.

Those sub 1.20 60's are getting it done! Good job!

Now that made me laugh, you spin a good story Jay.

Jay that thing sounds angree. People aren't really buying the " It's just a old Dodge with a truck motor" line either

would have LOVED to seen it hook and book at Famoso.... someday

Hey Mopar purist....it's a powerglide helping w the 1.19 60'.
Awesome job man.....what gears in the glide and rear if you don't mind ?

Great job Shilo. You kept hammering away at it and now your being rewarded for all your hard work. Mild tune? So I'm sure there's more in it?

Congrats, nice pass.

do you mean the gear that's in the Ford 9-inch 5.00 with a 94.1/4 roll out.

Be faster with proflite 😜😂
And some radials 🙃

I know but I like doing things the hard way.. a pic from the Mooneyes show

Congrats, that car is insanely quick.

And a east coast track!

Yes Shiloh rear and trans gear....1.80 in the trans ?

1.87 in the trans..

Also running a very small pinch on The Collector to help accelerate the car sooner.. looking at the race pack stuff my fuel pressure is all the way down to one lb of pressure. In high gear that's why it's not charging down track.. I think I'm going to skip the 5:30 and go right for the five 20s.. I have to stay faster than my cylinder head guy. Because he has has too many gears

Great Job.... Progress to the +++++++++++ Awesome Job !!!!

LOL Go man Go !

Ha ha ha ha!!

I was going to say your car sounded like it was struggling going down the track and a little blubbery at idle but didn't want to piss off your carb guy.......... What fuel system are you running..........

the fuel system starts off Outback with a 4-gallon cell a - 10 to the pump through a filter to a dash 8

28 quick fuel 400 pump.. and then with approximately 10 or 12 ft of aluminum Hardline half inch to the to the regulator after that 2-6 lines to the carburetor.. basically the entire system is not up to standard for what I'm doing.. it will be getting upgraded shortly

As far as the carburetor is concerned.. it was built for c25... and set up for an engine that is completely different from mine.. then top it off I'm running oxygenated race fuel.. which just seems to piss the carburetor off...

That system should work........what micron pre filter and maybe the reg is acting up or something........... Is that a BG 400..........If so, maybe time to step up cos those have created real issues for most everyone I know..........

with all that said, it still ain't a slouch.

this is the run that went with that time slip

"I have to stay faster than my cylinder head guy. Because he has has too many gears."

I think you're both cheaters, one shift or two shifts......not enough! LOL!

Can't wait to get my little ol' truck engine done.

I see 12.5 volts do u run an alternator............

Nope 3 lb lithium

A customer recently dynoed a carb I did and at 6400 it started loosing fuel pressure and going lean due to the big pump needing more volts so he added an alt and haven't heard back.......If that 12.5 is the voltage at 7100 rpm's, then the battery isn't cuttin it imo............

that would be interesting Shiloh concerning that new battery. Does the voltage stay there during the pass?

I wouldn't be happy about that voltage either. 12.5 is about 50% charge, but it does seem to be working ok. You would see 13.8/14.2 w3ith a alt. Maybe time for two of those 3# bats just to insure enough reserve voltage.


But reguardless of that, Your car flys, your getting her Done!!

The pump and the MSD race ignitions can suffer from low voltage
Maybe it is time for two 16 V batteries or a big amp alternator
I saw a slight ET(.003 to .004) and MPH loss(.17 to.2 MPH) on my old M.W. stocker by turning off the alternator feed before the runs with a charged up battery on back to back runs three times
When your chasing every bit, a thousands can make a difference

considering I have set the bypass and the regulator pressure at that voltage
It should be fine.. I have a lot of sharp bins in the fuel line. And possibly some restrictive fittings..

I will check with quick fuel in the morning to see if I'm meeting the voltage requirements.. but they're definitely will not be an alternator on this anytime soon

I was reading the leaf spring thread from last year and you’ve definitely gotten things figured out seeing your 60’s in the sub 1.2x range. Congrats on the gains. What changes ultimately got you there? Thicker front and rear spring segments? Shocks?

Thanks again for sharing your progress!

Its not just the fuel pump/pumps you need to worry about but the ignition systems as well. At 12.5 volts funny things can start to happen. Your at the edge/cliff with that new batt, maybe that 12,5 volt reading was after several runs.

we're still running the lowering blocks and the heavier rear segment.. nothing has really changed except for shock settings. And more power.. however I'm in the process of getting rid of the lowering blocks and maintaining the same height

the ignition system in this car will tell me if there's an issue regarding low voltage.. it seems to hold very well at 12.5 volts..

Mickey Thompson's all the way around..26 fronts 29.5 10.5 S .. with tubes

I appreciate everybody's input.. I will explore every recommendation and Avenue.. and hopefully make this thing even faster

the question was asked I looked into it. I talked to Ricky from Quick fuel regarding voltage and the fuel pump.. he said at 12.5 volts that would be the correct voltage for pump

Are you running a Books carb that Brett runs

I don't know much about his carburetor

Ok just wondering his carb looks very big and impressive

You have one seriously bad ride there Shiloh!

NICE!!!

Thanks a lot.. there's a couple people that have played a key part. Brett Miller and his knowledge is amazing.. he has talked to me off the bridge many of times.. also justadart Rod McGregor has had a huge part in this car.. everything from wiring 2 chassis work and building a front-end. And many others in my circle.. I have gained much knowledge from many on this site as well. My goal is to go out and run Ultra this coming year through two different organizations.. our rules are completely different than they are back east.. the fastest ever legal pass was 5.37.. so we are in the hunt . Also forgot to mention..Al for encouraging me to spend more money..

He was workin' on it Jay ... Orrr, was just tryin' to see how many times he could pull the wheels, back off the throttle and, still run 9-sevendees

>>>Bakersfield a few weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt4z-hj97fM

Congrats on new best shiloh

Is that what they call Hop-scotch or jumping rope? LOL.
That thing loves to huff on the hamster wheel.

.. I got so accustomed to not running Willie bars in Ultra.. I had forgot that I put them on... not to mention I had the shock settings completely screwed up that weekend thanks for the video

I always enjoy seeing your car improve, your freinds help where we can.

Brett and I have to work harder at getting you to spend money so Al will not get all the credit.

Here's one for you Rod...You and Mike... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmi9arFIGE

Correction, That would be the Minimum correct voltage for that pump. Not the Correct voltage.. 12.5 minimum or higher is recommended. That's why its working.

Like I stated your on the Edge. Was just pointing that out for you. Not sure I would be comfortable with that as I said before.

Thank you.. you have to take the manufacturer's recommendation

Not always and some of these guys have no clue.......the BIGGER pumps have a bigger NEED for voltage period........12.5 in the MINIMUM so stop being so damn stubborn and put a baby alt. on that thing already............

Anti-gravity gave me two batteries.. I could very easily add the second one.. the tech told me I have plenty of voltage and
More Voltage isn't the answer for fixing a fuel system that was built for a 10 second car.. me putting an alternator on my car would be equivalent to you putting a Carter on yours makes absolutely no sense.. all in fun I know you're just poking.. in all honesty if the system was where it needed to be and I didn't have fuel I might entertain the thought.. but right now my fuel system is in very poor condition

Thanks Mike. It was good racing with you guys again, hopefully your real car will be back soon

Would you consider a new fuel pump/system? And ya, playing w/ya although no real loss in wt or power imo................Your car is amazing and when you get it sorted out and can over fuel it, SHE WILL FLY even more..........

Try a Hoosier Radial slick 18215 C07

I think it is time to consider moving the fuel system up to the front of the car...Car is accelerating well and IMO it would be a beneficial change..If you truly have only 1-2lbs of fuel pressure up top that will be ALOT of your AFR issue no doubt. IMO switching to a better pump when you move the stuff up front will be a good change as well. IMO Weldon is the best stuff out there hands down.

Car is working well..Would love to see a driveshaft graph for sure. Looks like by the RPM graph you could use a little converter tune up too, but without the driveshaft hard to say for sure. But it looks like you have a fair amount of shift drop and there is a definite "lag" after the hit and at the shift...

Great lap for sure..I am sure that Yellow Mustang is scared and we all know that little Chevy II was crappin his drawers

when I get home tonight I will tap into the race pack.. and post a couple graphs..

Cool...Like to see the DS RPM for sure...

The 5.42 to pass.. at the peak G-Force

Same pass at the Finish Line..

I am losing 1600 RPM on the shift.. trap RPM is 8000 in the 1/8th.. maybe time to put the 7 in back in it.. it's about 800 RPM loser

That driveshaft RPM is ugly at the hit really. It LOOKS like it unloading but without seeing the G force with it hard to confirm. That DS RPM line is pretty jumpy down track so could just be an issue with the pick up. Is it a 2,4 or 8 magnet pickup? The G meter will tell a lot more of the story with that info. See if it is more linear and not as "jumpy". If it is then those "waves" in the DS RPM could just be a sensor issue.

That RPM drop is killing ET for sure. Also the RPM line shows the car slowing at the hit. Dragging the engine RPM way down after the initial hit. Likely also a converter thing. Get that line more linear without the drop and straighten that DS rpm line out and you will find a fair amount of ET...

One other thing I didn't mention earlier in reference to the fuel pressure. I would want to confirm the reading on a gauge as well. Sometimes racepak sensors can be not so happy. With fuel pressure that low I'd want to make sure

Unfortunately I only have A 2 magnet coupler.. which gives me that big jump at the hit... the bumps at the end is the track... it is horribly rough the last hundred feet

2.82 at the hit

Well that tells the story. Car is either spinning the tire...G meter goes down as wheelspeed goes up..Then you can see where it just noses over especially on the G meter when it pulls the engine down. The acceleratiomn of the car just drops off completely. Still got some work to do

I'm in the process of making a couple big changes to the car.. hopefully it will address some of these issues. I'm close to 2/10ths off.. from where the horsepower says I should be.. so I guess back to work I go

Well you know what the Vette makes for power and where we are at ET wise.

The good news is from what I see there you have definite room for improvement for sure.

Check that driveshaft ring to make sure it is not hitting anything. But from what I see those DS and G meter lines line up to well to not be an issue traction/suspension wise. Maybe topping out the shocks, or leafs...