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Drive Shaft Requirements

Posted By: JACK1440

Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 05:23 PM

Question for you guys. At what point is a factory drive shaft not strong enough. We found that the drive shaft in the cuda was bent due to the motor / tranny grenading. So... we took a new shaft the shop to have it shortened and the shop told us we needed to go aftermarket. The car is 3300 and should run mid 9s. 727 Auto with a dana 60 rear. What do you think?
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 05:33 PM

I bent/twisted 2 stock shafts running mid 10s at 3700 lbs. You definitely need a good one at your level. I'm currently running a 3" dia. steel "thickwall" shaft made by my local HD truck shop. So far it's help up running 8.90s at 3900 lbs., but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it failed on me. Everyone else at these speeds is running 3.5" dia. shafts.
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 09:38 PM

3.5" is much better than a simple comparison of diameters suggests.
With the same wall thickness (I used 1/8" for this test) 3.5" is 62% stiffer than 3.0", and only weighs 17% more.
Posted By: JACK1440

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 09:48 PM

Wow... big difference in just an 1/8" on strength
Posted By: madscientist

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 10:00 PM

You are past due for a better than OE drive shaft.
Posted By: JACK1440

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 10:44 PM

That seems to be the general feeling. Looks like it's time for an upgrade....
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 11:04 PM

14+ years on the same 3 1/2" chrome moly shaft and just had new 1350 spicer u-joints installed and a re-balance..........over kill maybe.......... thumbs
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/17/17 11:40 PM

How long is the shaft and how many RPM?
My Cuda has the motor moved way back and it has a Powerglide, the drive shaft is small diameter and short. The former owner had a Blown alcohol B1 motor in it with 5:57 gears and 16x33x15 inch slicks shock
Once I found out what ratio those gears actually where, I was told that it had either 5:13 or 5:38 in it, I swapped those gears out for a set of stock Dana Corp 4:56 gears work
I think it crosses the finish line in the 1/4 mile now right at 7000 RPM.
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/18/17 02:24 AM

Mark Williams has an excellent calculator for D/S size vs. speed here: http://www.markwilliams.com/driveshafttech.aspx
Posted By: JACK1440

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/18/17 06:15 PM

Hey Cab, the drive shaft is 45" long and I figure the new motor will 6500 - 6800. The old motor turned 7200. The dana is a 4:88 gear

The Mark Williams graph is definitely handy.

I ended up contact the shop and am going with the heavier shaft with heavier yoke also
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/18/17 06:28 PM

I would agree with whats here for sure. IMO a 3" shaft will work fine but 3.5" aint gonna hurt. Also lots of material options out there. Most local shops can handle making something for your power level easy enough. If you want to aftermarket Mark Williams is the best IMO
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/18/17 07:18 PM

Do the math on the drive shaft RPM by figuring in the converter slip and then go from there. Add room for more RPM in the future up
Posted By: JACK1440

Re: Drive Shaft Requirements - 07/18/17 10:47 PM

thanks for the advice guys
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