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Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ?

Posted By: hemienvy

Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/13/17 10:00 PM

Carb gaskets.

Do all these gaskets need to be wet to seal and to not stick?

I took apart an old carb that I rebuilt years ago with Holley
blue gaskets. It had been dry a long time, and everything was
stuck together.

Anyway, which brand seems to be best ?
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/13/17 10:08 PM

Use Superformance, the blue Holley gaskets are junk.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/13/17 11:14 PM

Yep, and the blocks fall off when removing bowls..........in EVERY carb I build period.............
Posted By: BPE

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 02:53 AM

Call Greg at Superformance, you will be happy you did.

Rod
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 03:08 AM

I've use the original Holley blue gaskets for years with no problems shruggy
I have not use either of the other two work
Posted By: sgcuda

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 03:15 AM

Superformance up
Posted By: rickraw

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 04:20 AM

X2. Better then the blue by a mile.
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 04:24 AM

Superformance and nothing else.
Posted By: BradH

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 01:59 PM

IIRC, BLP and Superformance metering block gaskets use the same gasket material, but Superformance also has an anti-stick coating.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By sgcuda
Superformance up

iagree
Posted By: bonefish

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 03:02 PM

ive had my intake off 3 times(dont ask) still usin the same Superformance gaskets.and ive had my carb apart over 10,000 times still the same Super gaskets.
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 03:16 PM

GREG WHO?????? whistling
Posted By: mopar dave

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 04:01 PM

the blue are no good when its time for removing them. they will glue the block to the main body real good.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
I've use the original Holley blue gaskets for years with no problems shruggy
I have not use either of the other two work



Time to step outta the dark ages Cab................ biggrin
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By mopar dave
the blue are no good when its time for removing them. they will glue the block to the main body real good.


read my mind from trying to take my old 4500 apart a couple weeks ago.


Just put the superperformance track pack on my 4150 that I'm currently running.
Posted By: FastmOp

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 06:22 PM

Posted By: Just-a-dart

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/14/17 09:45 PM

Superformance! I try and get the Chevy guys to get them from Glendora Dodge, it makes them a little crazy.
Posted By: Leigh

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/15/17 04:33 AM

Superformance are nice. For 35 years, I sprayed every generation gasket with silicone, without issue, but these are hassle free.
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/15/17 05:00 AM

smoke

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Posted By: humpty

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/15/17 06:27 AM

Nice spread hemi-itis!

Superformance all the way for me!
Posted By: hemienvy

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/16/17 08:00 AM

Alrighty thanks much, this will be one of those easy decisions.
Posted By: moparmacka

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/16/17 03:42 PM

3 choices are......
Superformance, Superformance or Superformance!
Posted By: Mark Whitener

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/16/17 04:25 PM

Not to downplay the Superformance, the Interface Solutions MP-15 material is a good quality material to use. I'v seen most of the different stuff out there, BLP used to have a green gasket that worked extremely well, but the material was not available to them anymore, then went to a coated MP-15. Quick Fuel used the same MP-15 for a while, but switched to a Reinz material before being taken over by Holley, they only have the blue gaskets at the moment. The blue from Holley are OK, with a little something to help with sticking. BLP is now having their gaskets made with the Reinz material and it seems to be similar to the Interface MP15. There are also some red and blue gaskets out there that are complete junk, usually the ebay sellers trying to pawn the cheep stuff.

But my favorite gasket out there is the Braswell, it is also and Interface Solutions material but different than the MP15, softer but still durable, and a graphite coating that works well with any fuel and never an issue with sticking. The price shows, but for anything that may be tuned a lot it's a great choice.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/16/17 04:41 PM

Have YOU tried Superformance cos BLP's material is NOT the same as I have some here and if that's the case why did BLP call Greg asking about making them base gaskets for the BX4 which I recommended.............
Posted By: PorkyPig

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/16/17 04:42 PM

Careful, Mark. This is Moparts and if you don't say Superperformance you risk being blacklisted. rolleyes
Posted By: hemienvy

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/16/17 08:37 PM

Is there any kind of magic non-stick spray or something that
the Holley gaskets can be coated with ?
Somebody here mentioned Silicone.
Something like Pam, frying pan spray ?
I thought about engine assembly moly, very thin coating.
Posted By: Mark Whitener

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/16/17 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Have YOU tried Superformance cos BLP's material is NOT the same as I have some here and if that's the case why did BLP call Greg asking about making them base gaskets for the BX4 which I recommended.............


The gaskets I was getting from Quick Fuel are the same MP-15 material and worked fine, still like the Braswell best, but for most the new Reinz material or the MP-15 is fine.
Posted By: sgcuda

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/17/17 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By hemienvy
Is there any kind of magic non-stick spray or something that
the Holley gaskets can be coated with ?
Somebody here mentioned Silicone.
Something like Pam, frying pan spray ?
I thought about engine assembly moly, very thin coating.


If you already have a bunch of Holley blue gaskets to use, I normally coat them with chap stick. It's not effected by gasoline, and everything comes apart real nice and easy. Must be reapplied after every disassembly. Cherry is my favorite, but that's just my opinion.
Posted By: Leigh

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/17/17 12:57 AM

Originally Posted By hemienvy
Is there any kind of magic non-stick spray or something that
the Holley gaskets can be coated with ?
Somebody here mentioned Silicone.
Something like Pam, frying pan spray ?
I thought about engine assembly moly, very thin coating.


Regarding my silicone comment. In 1976, all you had was cork. Then the horrible brown paper. Those always delaminated, until soaked with silicone, then they were reusable for a few times. The blue gskts suck until a silicone spray.
Posted By: moparmacka

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/17/17 01:00 AM

Ha ha ha.........
Posted By: roadhazard

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/18/17 03:59 AM

It's nice to see people who can appreciate quality and attention to detail even when it comes down to "it's just a gasket". It makes my extra effort in material selection, press set up time, upkeep of the dies and 100% product inspection all worth wile.

I have been in the automotive aftermarket industry 29 years and around it my entire life. I've seen, bought and used junk, decent stuff and some really good stuff. When I started Superformance Products 10 years ago this month (Thank You All For The Support!) I wanted to make the "really good stuff". When I launched this endeavor to my knowledge nobody was using the materials that I was pioneering. With success in that department it don't take long for the copy cats to show up.

That being said, you can copy the material all you want but you don't get the quality and attention to detail it takes to be the "really good stuff".

Without getting into the nitty gritty details about variants of MP-15 or some other materials that may or may not be proven to work with all fuels here is something for your viewing pleasure.

They say pictures are worth a 1,000 words............

I won't name brands so this is,
Sample-A

Attached picture BLP 2 circuit.JPG
Posted By: roadhazard

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/18/17 04:00 AM

Sample-B

Attached picture Quickfuel 2 circuit.JPG
Posted By: roadhazard

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/18/17 04:01 AM

Superformance Products

Attached picture Superformance 2 circuit.JPG
Posted By: max_maniac

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/18/17 04:15 AM

Originally Posted By roadhazard
Superformance Products




up bow
Posted By: Mark Whitener

Re: Superformance, BLP red, Holley blue ? - 04/18/17 05:23 AM



Again nothing wrong with the others, this is the best material I've found. Price limits it to high end billets or methanol, the others perform well enough that it's not an issue most of the time.
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