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BB Mopar Crank Options

Posted By: shantyshakinstud

BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 08:04 PM

Was informed by Callies yesterday that they have discontinued making BB Mopar Crankshafts, other than Billet. They informed me they have sold their last stock of Magnum/Dragon Slayer to Indy.

Any other options out there in-between a Chinese crank or a $3000+ billet deal?
Posted By: Sammy

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 08:11 PM

Callies says this every few years to get the racers nervous and to go out and spend on one. I think Indy has a lot to do with this.
I doubt this is true.
You will see Callies Mopar cranks again, I guarantee.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 08:28 PM

There are plenty of options, just depends on what you need and how big your budget is. SCAT has the internal capability to do a lot of stuff with raw forgings so you can get almost anything from them. SCAT builds stroker cranks with Honda journals and stuff like that which nobody else offers. On my last project I worked with a crank engineer at SCAT and he had the ability to design most anything I wanted as long as it fit into the confines of their rough forging.

If you aren't looking for anything that exotic then Molnar provides really nice high quality cranks made from off shore forgings.
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 08:51 PM

Not personal but I've read good things about Molnar.
Posted By: shantyshakinstud

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 08:58 PM

Nothing too crazy, 4.150 stroke with BB Mopar size journals.

Naturally Aspirated truck puller, so it sees sustained rpm in the 7500-8000 rpm range.

Callies did say "billet is way overkill" when I called.
Posted By: GY3

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 09:01 PM

Molnar x2

Mine sees a lot of street and strip abuse.
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 09:54 PM

so what aftermarket block do you have lined up for these "7500-8000 rpm" pulls?
Posted By: madscientist

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 10:03 PM

Originally Posted By shantyshakinstud
Nothing too crazy, 4.150 stroke with BB Mopar size journals.

Naturally Aspirated truck puller, so it sees sustained rpm in the 7500-8000 rpm range.

Callies did say "billet is way overkill" when I called.




I would skip the BB MoPar journals. Get a cranks with BBC throws and be done with it.
Posted By: FastmOp

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 10:13 PM

440Source

Been 150mph in the 1/8 with an out of the box 440Source crank. It's been in the car 3 years.
Posted By: shantyshakinstud

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 10:19 PM

Its a Koleno Block, been running the combination for a lot of years, just thinking I should be looking at a crank upgrade next time its apart and was shocked to find what Callies told me, and even more shocked when I looked at a Crower/Bryant pricing and availability.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/29/16 10:51 PM

On your deal, substained high RPM under WOT load, I would make sure the crank has the center counterweights and buy the best material you can get. I like and use Ohio Crankshaft Company (800-333-7113) BB Mopar stroker cranks since 1998 with no failures or come backs up scope They will grind any combination you ask for including making you a billet steel fully counter weighted crankshaft that will be good up to 3000+ HP thumbs I haven't needed or used any of those type yet but they are available work
Posted By: '72CudaRacer

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 12:00 AM

Molnar in mine. Very pleased with it.

Brian Dunnigan
Posted By: shantyshakinstud

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 12:26 AM

Thanks for your input everyone. I had heard about center counterweights but didnt know where to start inquiring after what Callies told me. I saw Ohio Crank offered a billet hemi crank for $1700 but wondered if i could get it with flywheel locating ring instead of flat snout.
Posted By: 493_DART

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 01:00 AM

ive beat on a 4.15 440 source crank for about 8 years now----no problems.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 02:36 AM

Ohio Crankshaft CO. will finish thier custom ground stroker cranks any way you want them. All the forged steel stroker cranks I've bought(15+) from them came with the stock 8 bolt 1/2 inch 426 Street Hemi pattern on the flanges with the locating ring built in, not the earlier 392 top fuel patterns with no locating ring built into the crankshafts up All the other aftermarket wedge motor forged steel stroker cranks I've bought and used had the standard 383/440 six bolt pattern 7/16 bolt size on the flanges shruggy
BTW, Keith Black Enterprises,562-869-1518 sells press in locating rings to use on the top fuel type cranks to use a torque converter in them up I've two or more bracket motors out there using the old top fuel cranks with those locating rings in them with no problems so far thumbs shruggy
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 06:59 AM

Crower is a great alternative and make center counterweight pieces
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Crower is a great alternative and make center counterweight pieces

I bought a Crower center weighted crank with 440 size mains and rods, 4.15 stroke, made of 304M I believe? Cost $2300 back in 2010. Beautifully machined balancing on the counter weights, not drilled.
I had some cap walk issues on my cross bolted Megablock. They went away when I upgraded to the center counter weights.
Posted By: Tempest

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 01:43 PM

Bryant.
Posted By: Roughbird72

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By Tempest
Bryant.


There's a name i haven't heard in awhile.
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 04:43 PM

Originally Posted By 493_DART
ive beat on a 4.15 440 source crank for about 8 years now----no problems.


at 7500-8000 rpm for extended periods like the OP??? smile
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 07:35 PM

Well if we are talking billets then Bryant Winberg and Moldex all make them. Crower is a very good less costly alternative
Posted By: AndyF

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By shantyshakinstud
Nothing too crazy, 4.150 stroke with BB Mopar size journals.

Naturally Aspirated truck puller, so it sees sustained rpm in the 7500-8000 rpm range.

Callies did say "billet is way overkill" when I called.


If it was me I'd go with a SCAT 4426014-3 fully machined superlight crank. $1750 from Summit and they are really nice cranks. Exterior is fully machined, mains are gun drilled, counterweights are undercut, etc.

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Posted By: Dragula

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 09/30/16 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By shantyshakinstud
Nothing too crazy, 4.150 stroke with BB Mopar size journals.

Naturally Aspirated truck puller, so it sees sustained rpm in the 7500-8000 rpm range.

Callies did say "billet is way overkill" when I called.


Call Ohio crank and get a refurbed one....Probably the cheapest option.
Posted By: ccdave

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 10/01/16 05:34 AM

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Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 10/01/16 06:36 AM

Just ad the center counterweights and you will have something
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 10/01/16 10:15 PM

Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
On your deal, substained high RPM under WOT load, I would make sure the crank has the center counterweights and buy the best material you can get. I like and use Ohio Crankshaft Company (800-333-7113) BB Mopar stroker cranks since 1998 with no failures or come backs up scope They will grind any combination you ask for including making you a billet steel fully counter weighted crankshaft that will be good up to 3000+ HP thumbs I haven't needed or used any of those type yet but they are available work


Ohio crank told me to pound sand when I inquired about a "custom" crank grind for the Hemi: 4.375 stroke with BBC rod journals. The actual quote was: "We're not doing any Mopar stuff right now, as we'll have some new Mopar stuff out later."
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 10/01/16 11:09 PM

I've bought that same crank from them yeas ago confused I also bought one of thier hemi motor 4.300 stroke crank with the 2.200 rod journal sizes several years ago when they had them on a clearance sell shruggy
Posted By: camastomcat

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 10/02/16 05:49 AM

Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By shantyshakinstud
Nothing too crazy, 4.150 stroke with BB Mopar size journals.

Naturally Aspirated truck puller, so it sees sustained rpm in the 7500-8000 rpm range.

Callies did say "billet is way overkill" when I called.


If it was me I'd go with a SCAT 4426014-3 fully machined superlight crank. $1750 from Summit and they are really nice cranks. Exterior is fully machined, mains are gun drilled, counterweights are undercut, etc.


I have a 1990's vintage one of these in my Predator. It has been through several rebuilds of B1, and B1/MC engines, all making over 1000HP. FWIW
Posted By: 68roadrunner

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 10/03/16 05:19 AM

Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Crower is a great alternative and make center counterweight pieces



i hope they are that good, just received my 4.375 x 2.200 full counter weighted crank. the only downfall was the 6-8 weeks out the door like i was told, ended up being 12 weeks to my door, but i didnt push them as it didnt make a difference
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BB Mopar Crank Options - 10/03/16 07:03 AM

I'm sure you will be very happy with it...
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