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Sbm Victor head results

Posted By: WHITEDART

Sbm Victor head results - 07/03/16 11:12 PM

Does anybody have any track feedback.. I know there was Dyno numbers kicked around... I have heard a lot of good and bad things about these heads... nothing like real world results..
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/04/16 01:58 AM

Aren't the exhaust bolt holes in the wrong position? Lot-o-money for a bonehead mistake.

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Posted By: jake4cars

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/04/16 03:02 AM

Isn't Rod Bloomer coming out with a set of small block heads? it would be interesting to see how they do, he is a true Mopar guy who cares about his stuff

Joey
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/04/16 07:12 AM

Last I heard Allen Sherman's build (Trumble racing engines) had not been run in the car yet.... but should be soon.
Posted By: dizuster

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/04/16 05:40 PM

Exhaust pattern looks like a w2 to me. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/04/16 05:48 PM

Originally Posted By dizuster
Exhaust pattern looks like a w2 to me. Nothing wrong with that.

W2 header bolts are much higher.
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/04/16 06:25 PM

Headers will bolt up fine.
Impressive Dyno results from the guy who did the Ritter deal. Can't wait to see how it runs when he gets it out
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 12:56 AM

Originally Posted By B3422W5
Headers will bolt up fine.

Enlighten me on how NON W2 headers.. or even W2 (excluding W8/9) headers won't block a third of the port..
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 01:01 AM

Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 01:09 AM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed


I agree... a header flange is NOTHING
wave
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 01:10 AM

Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed


I agree... a header flange is NOTHING
wave

Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying.
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 01:11 AM

TTI is making( or has made) a header for this application
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 01:21 AM

Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed


I agree... a header flange is NOTHING
wave

Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying.



Worst case would be a simple redrill re-tap. Been there done that
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 01:24 AM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed


I agree... a header flange is NOTHING
wave

Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying.



Worst case would be a simple redrill re-tap. Been there done that

True that my friend. thumbs

But on a $2k head? realcrazy laugh2
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 01:37 AM

Would rather they didnt drill them at all or drill them in a good common sealing pattern. Looking at the outer 2 patterns, how does that say "seals great"?
http://www.chicagoconnection.us/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=2179
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed


I agree... a header flange is NOTHING
wave

Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying.


If you have to worry about simple headers flanges
you better find a new hobby... you can make them
yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want
wave
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:16 AM

Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
[quote=DARTH V8Я]

If you have to worry about simple headers flanges
you better find a new hobby... you can make them
yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want
wave

Oh please Mike. Find a new hobby? LMAO. Where do you come up with this bullturd?
Posted By: WHITEDART

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:19 AM

the exhaust pattern.is a quick fix. Is it possible to go 8s in a 3000 pound car..with these heads N/A
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:35 AM

Originally Posted By WHITEDART
the exhaust pattern.is a quick fix. Is it possible to go 8s in a 3000 pound car..with these heads N/A


Should be able to do that easily. 800 horse at 3000 pounds = solid 8's.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:49 AM

Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
[quote=DARTH V8Я]

If you have to worry about simple headers flanges
you better find a new hobby... you can make them
yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want
wave

Oh please Mike. Find a new hobby? LMAO. Where do you come up with this bullturd?


Thats how I started building headers before I
bought a mill... yeah it took hours to build a
single flange.. but I didnt want to blow the
money for a set
wave
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:50 AM

Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down.
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 05:03 AM

Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
[quote=DARTH V8Я]

If you have to worry about simple headers flanges
you better find a new hobby... you can make them
yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want
wave

Oh please Mike. Find a new hobby? LMAO. Where do you come up with this bullturd?


Thats how I started building headers before I
bought a mill... yeah it took hours to build a
single flange.. but I didnt want to blow the
money for a set
wave


There comes a time in your HP life you have to learn where to draw the line. If header fabrication or having a set built isn't in your range of sight due to personal skills or cost.... maybe you better lower your view. Sounds to me like you are at the W5/chassis headers are readily available stage. I went in over my head and believe me, my fab skills are little to none. Cheap it's not, but if you're going to play.... well, you know the rest. Nice thing about a custom set of headers, well in my case, I can actually remove the headers without even jacking the car up or loosening the engine and they FIT!!!. These E brock heads are aimed a bit higher than your run of the mill small block build.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 05:17 AM

Ya and I don't think they would work well with that stock cast iron intake manifold. Lol
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 05:44 AM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Ya and I don't think they would work well with that stock cast iron intake manifold. Lol


laugh
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 05:53 AM

Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Ya and I don't think they would work well with that stock cast iron intake manifold. Lol


laugh




Diet Mountain Dew and vodka just came out of my nose. LOL
Posted By: Just-a-dart

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 06:34 AM

So what you guys are saying is when I bolt a aftermarket part to a aftermarket part with a aftermarket part I should not be suprised when they don't fit. biggrin
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 07:09 AM

waiting for the "why don't they look stock" crowd...... Oh yeah, that's the big block guys laugh2
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 07:17 AM

Originally Posted By Just-a-dart
So what you guys are saying is when I bolt an expensive aftermarket part to an expensive aftermarket part with an expensive aftermarket part I should not be suprised when they don't fit. biggrin



Fixed
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 07:43 AM

Originally Posted By J_BODY
waiting for the "why don't they look stock" crowd...... Oh yeah, that's the big block guys laugh2


There are plenty of them in the small block world too.
Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:18 PM

A Mopar part that needs "massaged" before fitting....now there's a shock. Are all these people bitching about parts not fitting new to Mopar stuff?
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 02:24 PM

The bolt pattern is for sure low for a W2, now I don't know how much wiggle room there is inside an 1 7/8" TTI W2 header, it might just end up at the top of the tube if the exhaust port is smaller than 1 7/8"?

I sure like the looks of these heads but for the cost I can be pretty far down the road on a G3 swap.
Posted By: sst404b

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 09:16 PM

This is a pic of the W2 headers installed. We drilled holes to match heads ,also the header bolts are 3/8.Stainless headers have the flanges made and in stock. And to answer the O P the heads are well worth the money and effort. Ours is in car and running but the converter was cracked around the weld and leaking so we had another one built and it is due in this week. Hope to run the car soon,but it's 100 degrees in Texas and I'm too old to put up with the heat

Ray Buckner

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Posted By: Jason B

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 09:24 PM

Ok guys go to stainlessheaders.com or call them at 952-890-9219 and speak with Chris. They have the flanges in stock and are very affordable. I bought a complete Stainless kit flanges, J bends collectors ect... for like 1200.00.
Posted By: clonestocker

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By Jason B
Ok guys go to stainlessheaders.com or call them at 952-890-9219 and speak with Chris. They have the flanges in stock and are very affordable. I bought a complete Stainless kit flanges, J bends collectors ect... for like 1200.00.


whistling
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 10:05 PM

Ohhhhh my God you had to drill new holes. Send them back for a refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 10:08 PM

Originally Posted By sst404b
This is a pic of the W2 headers installed. We drilled holes to match heads ,also the header bolts are 3/8.Stainless headers have the flanges made and in stock. And to answer the O P the heads are well worth the money and effort. Ours is in car and running but the converter was cracked around the weld and leaking so we had another one built and it is due in this week. Hope to run the car soon,but it's 100 degrees in Texas and I'm too old to put up with the heat

Ray Buckner




Once again THANKS for providing lots of good info on your build. Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work. I can't wait to see your track results and good-luck.
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/05/16 10:56 PM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Ohhhhh my God you had to drill new holes. Send them back for a refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I thought the same thing. LOL
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 12:14 AM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer

Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.

Who's afraid?
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 02:20 AM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down.


Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block....... up
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 03:24 AM

Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down.


Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block....... up



Its an R block which I guess is the same but different. He took the block and assembly to a machine shop today and may be available if you are interested. PM me your info and I will pass it on to him
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer

Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.

Who's afraid?


must have been hard to type that with your other hand raised in the air
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 04:26 AM

Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer

Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.

Who's afraid?


must have been hard to type that with your other hand raised in the air

Haha.. funny lady we have here. Don't hate cuz I got more skill than you.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 05:11 AM

Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer

Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.

Who's afraid?


must have been hard to type that with your other hand raised in the air

Haha.. funny lady we have here. Don't hate cuz I got more skill than you.


I forget... who said the exhaust wont fit
wave
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 05:14 AM

Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY


I forget... who said the exhaust wont fit
wave

And it don't.. so I forget, whats your point again? Oh ya... zippolla.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/06/16 05:37 AM

Originally Posted By DARTH V8Я
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY


I forget... who said the exhaust wont fit
wave

And it don't.. so I forget, whats your point again? Oh ya... zippolla.


Mine is very simple.. MAKE IT WORK... this isnt
magic... so what.. it takes a bit of work
Its called hot rodding... things dont always
work as planned
wave
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/07/16 12:30 AM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down.


Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block....... up



Its an R block which I guess is the same but different. He took the block and assembly to a machine shop today and may be available if you are interested. PM me your info and I will pass it on to him


Not yet just messing with you, I will be hunting one here soon though.
Posted By: DARTH V8Я

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/07/16 12:52 AM

Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down.


Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block....... up



Its an R block which I guess is the same but different. He took the block and assembly to a machine shop today and may be available if you are interested. PM me your info and I will pass it on to him


Not yet just messing with you, I will be hunting one here soon though.

Why don't you just buy Edvis's sloppy seconds?
Posted By: @#$%&*!

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/07/16 03:17 AM

If Edelbrock is going to stick with their mistake, the least they could do is provide a second set of holes in the correct location.
twocents

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Ohhhhh my God you had to drill new holes. Send them back for a refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: WHITEDART

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/07/16 04:37 AM

Originally Posted By Hand of Doom
If Edelbrock is going to stick with their mistake, the least they could do is provide a second set of holes in the correct location.
twocents

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Ohhhhh my God you had to drill new holes. Send them back for a refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no that would make too much sense
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/07/16 04:39 AM

Say the exhaust bolts were in the correct space. Is the port located in the same place as a W2 port? As in I could take W2s off and put Victors on and not have to change headers?
Posted By: Jason B

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/07/16 06:25 AM

Well it lives again new converter installed transmission in and all is good. Now just waiting on the new header flanges and supplies to get the new ones built should be at the track soon.... I hope lol!
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/07/16 07:11 AM

Cool! Hoping for the best!!
Posted By: sst404b

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/13/16 07:28 PM

The header flanges and gaskets are now ready.The flanges are 3/8 thick stainless and are $75.00 each from Stainless Headers Mfg.The gaskets are Cometic

Ray Buckner

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Posted By: Biginchmopar

Re: Sbm Victor head results - 07/13/16 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By sst404b
The header flanges and gaskets are now ready.The flanges are 3/8 thick stainless and are $75.00 each from Stainless Headers Mfg.The gaskets are Cometic

Ray Buckner


Nice

Are the TTI's going to be the same flange idea?
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