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Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount??

Posted By: DemonDust

Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 12:04 AM

How did you guys mount your magnets on your yoke? I have no where to put the collar.

Posted By: Dduster

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 12:22 AM

Call Greg here --> http://www.motorsportsinnovations.com/RacePak/racepak-sportsman.htm.

He'll know how to get You going. Buy Your system thru Him as well.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 12:29 AM

I already have the system.
Posted By: Dduster

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 12:32 AM

Hopefully He can get You going other than 'buy a 9" set-up'. up
Posted By: DavidDean

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 01:01 AM

On my rpm data logger I mounted mine on the 904 yoke and built a bracket that mounts on the tail housing. I have a 4 link so the yoke doesn't move too much.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 01:11 AM

David that's a good idea. I'll measure my yoke on that end, I know I have room. Just hope they make a collar small enough to fit that yoke. I also have a 904.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 01:58 AM

I had to make magnetic pickup... no one made one
for a 8 3/4. ..the pick up is mounted to the snubber
holes
wave

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Posted By: Monte_Smith

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 06:03 AM

There is enough space, but you will likely have to remove the dust shield and possibly machine the yoke
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 06:19 AM

while I'd rather have the pickup on the yoke, this set up has seemed to work ok on my 727 set up. cut an aluminum strip to make a spacer so the collar would fit tight.

Posted By: gregsdart

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 06:36 AM

The collar mounted on the front of the driveshaft will move a lot forward and backward on a ladderbar car, and I wouldn't even try it on a leafspring only car. If mine doesn't work where it is by the front yoke(ladderbars) I will either have to mount two rings together or weld a boss on the tail shaft and either use the parking lugs or mount a collar in there.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
How did you guys mount your magnets on your yoke? I have no where to put the collar.



I dont know why your dust shield sticks out
so far but if you can push it back you will
have plenty of room.. also... if you notice
in the couple of pics that the magnets themselves
are only a 1/4" in diameter so you dont need to make
it much thicker than that
EDIT
Or do as Monte said.. trash the dust shield and slide
the magnet housing to the rear(just clear the case)
wave
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 05:25 PM

Machine the yoke if needed or it can go on the shaft itself. The Cuda was mounted on the driveshaft for years with no issue but it was a 4 link deal.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 05:41 PM

Summit has different yokes available that would probably fix your issues and be stronger too.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/22/16 11:46 PM

Stronger? That's a 1350 yoke from Dr Diff.

What's weak about it?
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 06/23/16 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Stronger? That's a 1350 yoke from Dr Diff.

What's weak about it?



My mistake I thought it was a stock one. My Dana has the same issue so I will be ordering one from Summit so I can mount my ring on it
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/23/16 06:31 AM

A little late to the game on this but I thought I would add it in case it helps someone.

A little garage fab from some scrap aluminum, and a racepak collar, plus a cherry hall effect sensor and bingo, driveshaft RPM sensor. I will use this to log driveshaft speed as well as show MPH on my megasquirt.

This is a Moser yoke that I already was using, it has a nice machine 2.125 surface to mount a collar.

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/23/16 02:56 PM

pretty sure that'll stay steady smile Being my trans is out, I've been eyeballing things and am ordering a smaller ring to mount on my output shaft of my 727. I'll just drill and tap the tailshaft and use a adhesive crank shaft sensor spacer. Will be cheaper and easier for me. No room on a D60 for one. I'd have to purchase a new yoke (strange U1598 for you D60 guys)
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/23/16 11:09 PM

This will be short lived, I am putting in my spare center section since I broke two teeth off of the one you see pictured. I just bought a D60 housing to start the journey down that road.

This bracket is a little overkill but its what was laying in the garage, at least it is aluminum lol.
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/23/16 11:58 PM

well.... at least you have a yoke part number to start your D60 project with smile
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/24/16 12:21 AM

On my Dana,there was no room even without the dust sheild. Bought a Strange yoke and had The Drive Shaft shop "Supershafts" shorten the drive shaft.

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Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/24/16 12:28 AM

So the yoke is physically longer to accommodate the spacer.... that's good to know.
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/24/16 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By J_BODY
So the yoke is physically longer to accommodate the spacer.... that's good to know.


Correct,then it's easy to make something to hold the sensor.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 10/24/16 02:00 AM

This is what I ended up doing.

Made this on the Bridgeport at work in my free time.




Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/15/16 04:35 AM

Originally Posted By J_BODY
well.... at least you have a yoke part number to start your D60 project with smile


It would seem that way wouldn't it? lol I just bought a Moser Billet yoke for a D60, thinking it would be like the one for my 8.75. It's not, it doesn't have room for a driveshaft collar. It would be nice to use the Moser yoke I have on my 8.75 but it is a 10 spline piece and there is no ten spline gear sets available for the Dana 60. So I emailed Moser about the 29 spline 8.75 yoke they offer and it to is different and doesn't have room for a collar. Welcome to hot rodding!

Looks Like I will check out the strange yoke that HEMITIS is using.
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/15/16 04:43 AM

Hemi-Itis you don't know what the ID of that sensor collar you have is do you? I am curious to see if the one I have already will work with the strange yoke. Given my luck I am sure it won't but you never know haha
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/15/16 05:05 AM

There's a plethora of tone rings on Racepaks website. Scroll down on the price listing sheet. I ordered a 1.37 ring and will shim it to my 1.33 output shaft and am going to drill and tap the tailshaft housing.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/16/16 11:10 AM

I put .015 shim between the halves of my ring and machined it to my pinion size, since Racepak didn't have the correct size. The .015 shims gave me the ability to machine it to the exact shaft size which would normally more than likely spin a bit, with the extra .015 it gave me clamping ability. This way the collar will never move.
Posted By: scottb

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/16/16 03:03 PM

Why are you putting all that time into a rear end thats a ticking tomb bomb
Posted By: Iowan

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/16/16 04:20 PM

It's only a SB.........tick.... tick.... tick

hahaha
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/16/16 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By J_BODY
There's a plethora of tone rings on Racepaks website. Scroll down on the price listing sheet. I ordered a 1.37 ring and will shim it to my 1.33 output shaft and am going to drill and tap the tailshaft housing.


Yeah but I already have one with a 2.125 ID. I emailed Strange because I will more than likely use their yoke but so far no response.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/17/16 09:13 AM

8 years and still ticking....
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/25/16 03:19 AM

Racepak's 800CL2M137 split ring will fit on a 727 output shaft. The one I mocked it up on required a shim I made from a section of beer can (.002) to tighten up, but the trans going in the car it fit tight with no shim. It will clear the inside of the tailshaft, but due to the taper, the farther forward you can go, the more room you'll have. Bring a tap home from work tomorrow and I can button things up. A person could do this in car as the tail housing comes off pretty easy.



Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/25/16 05:19 AM

Nice Work! I have seen someone mention using the park "wheel" with a sensor before, that might be something I try next time I have the trans out.
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/25/16 06:00 AM

drilling on he rib also afforded more "meat" to tap threads into too. Another angle I thought would be to put a tone ring where where the speedo gear would mount and then tap a speedo gear housing and mount the pickup in there.... but I didn't have a stock speedo gear housing laying around to even look at. Using the park ring.... very feasible, but.... there are 18 lugs, so only two oppose each other so you still end up with a two mag signal. Would be nice if there were four opposing lugs then you could go 4 mag. Assuming drilling the lug and epoxying a couple of these flush would work... no? https://www.amazon.com/200pcs-Strong-Neo...rds=2mm+magnets
Posted By: markz528

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/25/16 07:06 PM

Originally Posted By J_BODY
Racepak's 800CL2M137 split ring will fit on a 727 output shaft. The one I mocked it up on required a shim I made from a section of beer can (.002) to tighten up, but the trans going in the car it fit tight with no shim. It will clear the inside of the tailshaft, but due to the taper, the farther forward you can go, the more room you'll have. Bring a tap home from work tomorrow and I can button things up. A person could do this in car as the tail housing comes off pretty easy.





That's a great idea! Nice work!
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/27/16 05:44 AM

How do you set the proper clearance with a setup like that? Requires .050 to .100 clearance.
Posted By: TRENDZ

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/27/16 06:11 AM

Divide the thread pitch into 1 inch. 1" / 16 = .0625"
One turn out from bottomed would be .0625" .
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/27/16 06:47 AM

I screwed the pickup until it bottomed out. ran the nut down to the tail shaft, unscrewed the pick up about a turn noting the gap beween the nut and the tail. Tightened the nut to lock it into place and called it good.
Since the trans was out of the car I was able to look down past the seal with a good flashlight and observe the gap also. While I did mock this up in the car with an empty case and tail shaft, I would prefer if the pickup was a lot shorter as it does stick out quite a bit. Going to see if there is a shorter one available. I'm "betting" I could cut the extra threaded part and there is just wiring inside which I could shrink wrap, but I don't want to risk ruining it as they are $129. I'll call Racepak and see what my options are. Either way, this mod cost the $45 for the split ring.



trans is back in the car and there is plenty of clearance.... but it does bother me. smile
Posted By: Saskabusa

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 02/22/17 01:51 AM

Here is a good thread on this subject.


https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post2093032
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 07/29/18 12:24 AM

If you have Wilwood rear brakes you might have an easy way to add a sensor to pick up the wheel studs for wheel speed/vehicle speed.

On my Wilwood brackets there was an extra hole on the front side of the bracket that is just above the flange for the bearing. It just happens to line up perfectly with the wheel studs. For my particular sensor I had to enlarge it a little and knock the corner off of the housing end flange. I haven't driven it yet but its the same sensor and wiring as I used before I switched to the dana. I wanted to due the park wheel in the trans but this was easy and already wired haha.

This was a very rare project, it only took 30 minutes and didn't cost a dime.

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Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/22/18 05:12 AM

So the setup posted in the picture above worked, it for sure had some lost resolution from when I had it on the driveshaft with my 8.75. Going from 8 pickup points on the driveshaft to 5 on the wheel did make a noticeable difference in the logs. It also had a small bump in the log I couldn't get out, likely because the wheel studs are not machined perfect and one of them was probably a little out of range of the sensor.

It was driving me crazy so I bought a kit from Motion RaceWorks, they have a combo of Strange Yoke with a tone ring, sensor, and sensor bracket. I already have a few of the sensor they use so they dropped that off the price and added their black friday discount a week early.

https://www.motionraceworks.com/products...rol-for-dana-60

The 16 points of resolution on the driveshaft yoke should be super smooth.





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Posted By: AndyF

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/22/18 05:33 AM

This is the setup I used in my Duster. I made some extra brackets in case other guys want to run the same parts. I designed this bracket for a Dana 60 but it might work on a 8 3/4 with some modifications.

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Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/22/18 05:38 AM

That is nice Andy but I don't have the pinion snubber pads like the S60 has. This is just some random pickup truck Dana that I had cut down.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Racepak and 8 3/4???? Driveshaft sensor mount?? - 11/22/18 05:43 AM

Yeah, the snubber bolt holes are handy for holding a sensor bracket. That is one drawback to using a truck rearend.
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