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Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel?

Posted By: Jonnyj00

Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 07:31 PM

I have seen people mix pump gas with 110 race fuel in the past and get by with it but I wanted to get some of your opinions before I tried it with my combination.

My motor is a 12:1 383 with TRW dome pistons and stock 906 heads.

Could I get by with mixing 50/50 or 60/40 race fuel to pump gas without damaging the engine? I know that it would be easier with aluminum heads but I was just curious if it was possible with stock iron heads.

Thanks guys!!
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 07:39 PM

I do it constantly. Usually throw 5 gallons of 110 into the stock gas tank with the rest 93 pump.
10.5 compression iron head small block.
Posted By: Eric

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 07:46 PM

12:1 I would run the 110 straight.
Posted By: 71yelladustr

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 08:17 PM

Have you considered E-85? Might be worth looking into.
Posted By: B3422W5

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 08:29 PM

Agree. At 12 to 1 with iron heads I would run straight 110 to be safe
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 08:39 PM

iagree With those pistons and open chamber 906 heads, I'd run straight 110 in it.
Posted By: Jonnyj00

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 11:16 PM

Thanks for the input guys up I was hoping to save a few bucks but if it's questionable at all I will continue to run straight 110. If I made the switch to aluminum heads someday would this be more favorable to a fuel mix?

I have thought about E85 but I am just now getting to where I can tune a gas carb a little I don't want to change now very bad lol. Plus the switch to E85 can be a bit expensive initially...

Thanks again!
Posted By: Jonnyj00

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 11:18 PM

The worst part is a pump gas 400 with the right cam would probably run as fast as this 12:1 383... Oh well it's what I got.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/08/16 11:31 PM

Originally Posted By Jonnyj00
Thanks for the input guys up I was hoping to save a few bucks but if it's questionable at all I will continue to run straight 110. If I made the switch to aluminum heads someday would this be more favorable to a fuel mix?

I have thought about E85 but I am just now getting to where I can tune a gas carb a little I don't want to change now very bad lol. Plus the switch to E85 can be a bit expensive initially...

Thanks again!


Within a year you will save enough to make the
switch to E-85... just have to understand that
you only buy E-85 during the summer months so if
you need to you fill a couple of 55 gal drums when
it tests fine(the tester is cheap).. I use to ask
the person ahead of me if I could get a small sample
then test it... never had anyone say no.. and they
would normally hang around to see the results
wave
Posted By: humpty

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 04:41 AM

We run 100 low lead aviation gas in our 12:1 iron W2 408. $4.50 a gallon and available pretty much everywhere. Its amazing how many small airports there are. We've made in excess of 725hp with it. Check out https://www.airnav.com/fuel/local.html, enter your zip code and you'll find all the local locations and prices.
Posted By: ozymaxwedge

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 05:09 AM

Originally Posted By humpty
We run 100 low lead aviation gas in our 12:1 iron W2 408. $4.50 a gallon and available pretty much everywhere. Its amazing how many small airports there are. We've made in excess of 725hp with it. Check out https://www.airnav.com/fuel/local.html, enter your zip code and you'll find all the local locations and prices.


I agree, exactly what I do down under.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 05:17 AM

Good luck letting em pump av gas in a can or in your car out west where I`m at..........epa lol.......... down
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 05:18 AM

any pinging is as you know extremely damaging. as said max out your octane right off the bat then proportion downward till it talks on your hottest/driest (most likely to ping) day then back up a bit cuz there is silent ping & you want a cushion to protect your baby
Posted By: ozymaxwedge

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 05:42 AM

Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Good luck letting em pump av gas in a can or in your car out west where I`m at..........epa lol.......... down


Yes you need to find a dodgy guy that has something to do with small planes and friend him smile
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 05:46 AM

Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Good luck letting em pump av gas in a can or in your car out west where I`m at..........epa lol.......... down




LOL. you guys can't even buy a NORMAL gas can.
Posted By: 68dodge

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 12:14 PM

I just take my 5 gallon cans to the airport near me and they fill them, pay the guy and leave.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 04:21 PM

Jonnyj00...100LL Avgas, if you can get, will work great in what you have and be a lot cheaper. My local airport lets me walk right in w/ my gas cans and get as much as I want. I think it's around $3 a gallon.
I didn't even think about using Avgas when I first replied.
Posted By: Grizzly

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By ozymaxwedge
Originally Posted By humpty
We run 100 low lead aviation gas in our 12:1 iron W2 408. $4.50 a gallon and available pretty much everywhere. Its amazing how many small airports there are. We've made in excess of 725hp with it. Check out https://www.airnav.com/fuel/local.html, enter your zip code and you'll find all the local locations and prices.


I agree, exactly what I do down under.


x3

I've worked my way from 40% down to 25% LL mixed with 87 pump on all my iron-head 340's and 750 Aprilia. 10% on everything else.

Never a problem. Ever.

I can sure remember when people used to argue against avgas on here. laugh2 Yep, "your car is not an airplane" blah .

Well, I don't know what's wrong with yours but mine sure grows wings when the Av hits the tank. devil
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 04:53 PM

I've been asked to leave... because I was trying
to buy av gas... some places dont play that at all..
I went in there with my buddy who is a pilot there...
they said something to him also
wave
Posted By: Racer33

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/09/16 09:04 PM

I walked into the airport Saturday morning and bought 5 gallons. Think I paid $3.79 a gallon. I put 40 miles on the Lycoming powered airboat Sunday so Friday before I go home from work I'll pick up 10 more gallons. They wont let me bring the boat to the pump but will watch me carry all the gas cans I want. lol My coronet will be running it instead of race fuel this year
Posted By: ozymaxwedge

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/10/16 03:13 AM

I have to travel 1 hour each way to get my avgas, just worked it out into US $ and it is about $6.50 per gal your money I'm paying, I pick up a 44 gal drum each time. We can get 98 pump unleaded here no problem but the cars (12-1 strokers) and the Harley love the avgas, lead is lubricant for your guides as well.
Posted By: therocks

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/10/16 04:22 PM

My 440 Stealth heads and 12.5 Ross domes.I run 93 on the street but cant really get into it.When I use race gas I can get by with say 2 gallons to about 6 to 8 93.Now if I race i usually have close to 80 90 % race gas in it.Rocky
Posted By: littlejohn44

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/11/16 05:35 AM

hers a great mix calc if you go that route.
http://wallaceracing.com/octane-mix-calc.php
Posted By: 3ddart

Re: Mixing Pump Gas With 110 Race Fuel? - 06/11/16 12:31 PM

Just an FYI, around me I can get Sunoco 112 for about $.50 more a gallon then 110 and it takes less of a mix to get more octane.
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