Posted By: formula S
Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 03:00 AM
I was told that regular steel braid hose would collapse if used as a suction hose, what do you guys think?
Hose for external oiling system
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 03:01 AM
That's BS. 
CHIP
CHIP
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 03:04 AM
I'll second the bs part..
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 03:16 AM
What kind of system, how long and which type of stainless covered hose are you talking about?
Posted By: flynbyu
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 03:49 AM
X3 on the bs...thats what came with my milodon pan
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 04:05 AM
x4
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 04:21 AM
It shouldn't, mine has never had a problem but if your really worried use TFE stainless braid
Posted By: rowin4
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 04:23 AM
The only way you might collapse it is drive over it with a truck. If you have that strong of a pump you might think about reinforcing your valve covers. 
Posted By: formula S
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 05:47 AM
A friend of mine has a B1 KB 572 with a KB oil pump, and KB told him to use this special suction hose, that I can't think of the name, but I did see the hose, and it has different hose fittings it looks like they are sweged and not reuseable. I really dont think that the steel braid part of the hose would collapse, but maybe the the non steel reenforced rubber hose inside would, I dont know just a thought.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 05:59 AM
If you kink or fold the SS hose you can cause seperation of the inside lining and it can collaspe blocking the passage under suction.Make all curves smooth and use proper fittings:90,45,22 degrees and straight. 
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 06:27 AM
Use the Aeroquip blue hose if you're worried about suction. Besides, the blue hose is a lot less expensive and is easier to assemble. I don't use much of the braided hose anymore since it is kind of a hassle to deal with.
Posted By: rebel
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 06:50 AM
i've used braided hose for the vac line on my brake booster for years, never seen it collapse, & my brakes work great.
Posted By: 70blackfish
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 07:01 AM
I had a milodon hose on mine and after a few months it was soft, when it was cold, it must have been real soft after the oil was up to temp.
I still have that hose.
its not BS
I still have that hose.
its not BS
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 07:18 AM
There are a few diffrent grades of SS hose.We have seen new stuff that collaspes,usually if you have good pressure at idle and loose it as you increase rpm and regain it when you go back to idle rpm is a good indication that the liner is collasping.If you pull the hose and look through it you will the lumps in the liner,sort of looks like a hemmoroid in you rectal colon. 
Posted By: rebel
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 07:22 AM
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There are a few diffrent grades of SS hose.We have seen new stuff that collaspes,usually if you have good pressure at idle and loose it as you increase rpm and regain it when you go back to idle rpm is a good indication that the liner is collasping.If you pull the hose and look through it you will the lumps in the liner,sort of looks like a hemmoroid in you rectal colon.
you got any pics of that so we know what we are looking at?
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 07:50 AM
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There are a few diffrent grades of SS hose.We have seen new stuff that collaspes,usually if you have good pressure at idle and loose it as you increase rpm and regain it when you go back to idle rpm is a good indication that the liner is collasping.If you pull the hose and look through it you will the lumps in the liner,sort of looks like a hemmoroid in you rectal colon.
you got any pics of that so we know No,try bending over in front of a full length mirror and spread your butt.
Posted By: formula S
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 02:20 PM
Quote:Quote:Now that's funny right their, I don't care who you areQuote:
There are a few diffrent grades of SS hose.We have seen new stuff that collaspes,usually if you have good pressure at idle and loose it as you increase rpm and regain it when you go back to idle rpm is a good indication that the liner is collasping.If you pull the hose and look through it you will the lumps in the liner,sort of looks like a hemmoroid in you rectal colon.
you got any pics of that so we know No,try bending over in front of a full length mirror and spread your butt.
Posted By: formula S
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 02:40 PM
So with all the different hoses, which one do we use? Please be specific. Brand,type, part number ect.... And I'll go get it. Thanks guys for all the replies.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 03:00 PM
We use Aeroquip AQP and Teflon racing hose.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 04:26 PM
Quote:
A friend of mine has a B1 KB 572 with a KB oil pump, and KB told him to use this special suction hose, that I can't think of the name, but I did see the hose, and it has different hose fittings it looks like they are sweged and not reuseable. I really dont think that the steel braid part of the hose would collapse, but maybe the the non steel reenforced rubber hose inside would, I dont know just a thought.
The hose and fittings you were looking at were what
I believe just hydrolic lines and fittings, we swedge
those fitting (pretty stiff with high burst pressures)
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: Hose for external oiling system - 02/03/09 05:12 PM
The teflon or a good brand and quality of hydraulic line is the way to go IMO, neopreme is the one to look out for, even on fuel systems 