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Hellcat Charger 9.71

Posted By: SRT6776

Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/28/15 06:03 PM

Dang!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtB3XCJqxTU
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/28/15 08:12 PM

Such cool cars! I just saw a red Hellcat Challenger outside the bagel store by me this morning, I talked to the owner for a couple minutes, nice guy and he loves it and can`t believe the amenities it has for such a performance car.
Posted By: R5P7 Bantam

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/28/15 08:19 PM

That's just Awesome!!!! A quick change of the tires and out the gate she drives home.
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/28/15 09:33 PM

Cool cars forsure. But for making 1000whp just to go 9s is so dumb. If they weren't so heavy they would be much much cooler and much faster.
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/28/15 10:32 PM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
Cool cars forsure. But for making 1000whp just to go 9s is so dumb. If they weren't so heavy they would be much much cooler and much faster.


So it would be better to get a 1980 Honda Civic to run in the 9's?
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/28/15 10:40 PM

That's about 2000lbs in the right direction.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/28/15 11:58 PM

No cage, no window net, doubt there was a trans shield, drive shaft loop etc...
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 12:05 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
That's about 2000lbs in the right direction.


Honestly, who cares about weight - we live in the age where you can make 3000HP+ if you feel like it.

Try that back in 1980 with your Volare
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 12:18 AM

4th and 5th seem to be hurting pretty bad.
Posted By: cudatom

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
Cool cars forsure. But for making 1000whp just to go 9s is so dumb. If they weren't so heavy they would be much much cooler and much faster.

While I agree that the cars are pig heavy(I own a 2011 SRT)you are missing the point. With nothing more than a tire change to this Hellcat you could hop in the car and drive cross country. This is w/a car solidly in the 9's.
Posted By: ademon

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 12:45 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
Cool cars forsure. But for making 1000whp just to go 9s is so dumb. If they weren't so heavy they would be much much cooler and much faster.

I dont think the older woman driving that charger thinks its dumb! mid 9 second car that seats 5, kicking stereo system, A/C, warranty, handles great, heck shes probably taking clients out to lunch in it for work.
Posted By: poboyengineering

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 12:47 AM

I saw a Cobra Mustang run 8.47 This year. Weight IS THE ISSUE.
Posted By: RSNOMO

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By Malicious�


Honestly, who cares about weight



Only, EVERY STREET AND DRAG RUNNER OUT THERE...


Originally Posted By Malicious


Try that back in 1980 with your Volare



Bob Glidden took a little old 340...

And cleaned everybody's clock...

In 1978...


It wasn't 3000 HP...

And it wasn't in 4000 lbs.
Posted By: twayne24365

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:02 AM

Well this turned into another "hellcat" thread.

Awesome car, amazing pass. Impressive for a big car
Posted By: ademon

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:03 AM

Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By Malicious�


Honestly, who cares about weight



Only, EVERY STREET AND DRAG RUNNER OUT THERE...


Originally Posted By Malicious


Try that back in 1980 with your Volare



Bob Glidden took a little old 340...

And cleaned everybody's clock...

In 1978...


It wasn't 3000 HP...

And it wasn't in 4000 lbs.


LOL
Posted By: ademon

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:06 AM

Glidden took it off the showroom floor and took it right to the track also.
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:10 AM

Originally Posted By Malicious�
Originally Posted By 1980volare
That's about 2000lbs in the right direction.


Honestly, who cares about weight - we live in the age where you can make 3000HP+ if you feel like it.

Try that back in 1980 with your Volare



Man looks like struck you right In the feels. Sorry my car doesn't weigh 4500lbs.





Originally Posted By cudatom
Originally Posted By 1980volare
Cool cars forsure. But for making 1000whp just to go 9s is so dumb. If they weren't so heavy they would be much much cooler and much faster.

While I agree that the cars are pig heavy(I own a 2011 SRT)you are missing the point. With nothing more than a tire change to this Hellcat you could hop in the car and drive cross country. This is w/a car solidly in the 9's.




If you think this is a bonestock car with a drag radial, it's not.


Dual power adders 1000whp,and only 9.71



If my car had dual poweradders, made over 1k to the tires and ran 9.70 I'd drive it off a cliff.



Take into consideration, it's also missing a 8.50 cert cage, even if it was chromoly it would add 150-200lbs. Plus a driver. It would almost weigh as much as my tow rig. Can you say 4800+ caged and legal.



Hci c6 zo6 corvettes ran 9s 10 years ago.
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:24 AM

Edit, sorry the world's fastest hell kitty challenger is dual power adder, not the charger. Either way. Yawn.
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By Malicious�


Honestly, who cares about weight



Only, EVERY STREET AND DRAG RUNNER OUT THERE...


Originally Posted By Malicious


Try that back in 1980 with your Volare



Bob Glidden took a little old 340...

And cleaned everybody's clock...

In 1978...


It wasn't 3000 HP...

And it wasn't in 4000 lbs.


Sweet! I assume it was also under warranty and he drove it home afterwards with its 900 watt stereo, A/C and cooled seats? Right? Probably handled awesome too!
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:34 AM

The Charger mods are listed in the video description - smaller pulley 18 psi and a tune.
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:34 AM

Said car in video, has no warranty.
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:36 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
Said car in video, has no warranty.


Oh, so because it has a tune, if the door locks stop working Chrysler won't honor it - gotcha!
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:38 AM

I don't understand why we all are running such heavy cars! We should all be running bikes and yawn at anything that runs in the 9's...

My Dakota is for sale if anyone is interested in buying a heavy-ass 9 second vehicle. I am in the market for a Suzuki now...
Posted By: D-50

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:51 AM

I think 1980volare claims his is pretty heavy. 35-3600
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 01:53 AM

Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By Malicious�
Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.


Malicious-- I totally agree! That gal's charger is AWESOME. It's also a reminder that vintage muscle cars no longer rule the street, OR the track!

My hat's off to her.
Posted By: twayne24365

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 02:30 AM

Originally Posted By Malicious�
Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.


You'd think Mopar fans would be happy with that.
It's ashamed dodge finally steps up and makes something worth making and people still [censored] about it
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 02:36 AM

That 4 door "luxury" car weights 3-600lbs MORE then your truck. I'm not sure why you're upset.



They are heavy and slow, much like everything Chrysler produces. Doesn't mean they can't be fast, but why spend 70-80k on a car, modify it to take it to the track, then have to remove creature comforts to race it. Just doesn't make sense.
Posted By: hudsonhornet7x

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 02:43 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
That 4 door "luxury" car weights 3-600lbs MORE then your truck. I'm not sure why you're upset.



They are heavy and slow, much like everything Chrysler produces. Doesn't mean they can't be fast, but why spend 70-80k on a car, modify it to take it to the track, then have to remove creature comforts to race it. Just doesn't make sense.



Good God, take away your Mopar man card. Go buy a cheap suit, an S2000 and some pastel pants.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 02:51 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
That 4 door "luxury" car weights 3-600lbs MORE then your truck. I'm not sure why you're upset.



They are heavy and slow, much like everything Chrysler produces. Doesn't mean they can't be fast, but why spend 70-80k on a car, modify it to take it to the track, then have to remove creature comforts to race it. Just doesn't make sense.


While I agree they are heavy, they sure as hell ain't slow, especially by lightly-modified 1980 Volare standards back when they were just a few years old.

Yea, I would prefer a 1000 lb diet too, but Chrysler can't exactly market cars without A/c and a plethora of other creature comforts, emissions components, and safety features.

...and her car likely passes emissions...
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 02:59 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare



, but why spend 70-80k on a car, modify it to take it to the track, then have to remove creature comforts to race it. Just doesn't make sense.


It's called "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
Posted By: RSNOMO

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Chrysler can't exactly market cars without A/c and a plethora of other creature comforts, emissions components, and safety features.




Sure they can...

It's called 'Drag Pak'...


Same principle as the hurst cars...


It ain't a new concept...



SL's Challenger went nine-seventy...

Almost 40 years ago...

Through the muffs, without the spray...

A street car...



So, this ain't really no big shake...


Posted By: gch

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 04:11 AM

Impressive to me.Put some skinnies on the front,loosen the sway bar,and empty the trunk and see what she will do.


Haters gonna hate.
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 04:26 AM

Originally Posted By Malicious�
Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.


I'm not surprised at all. How many times on this forum have you heard guys complain because an aftermarket head doesn't look like their 906's? Or their stamped rockers won't work? The list goes on and on.

The guy that sonic checked my block builds engines and races a fox body mustang. One of the first thing he told me after we got acquainted was that Mopar guys are strange. I'll have to agree.

BTW, I think the new Challengers and Chargers are great, I'd be tickled with a SRT in either one.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 04:41 AM

There are a lot of Chevy guys on this forum these days. They can't get their Mopars to run fast so they jump ship.
Posted By: oldiron

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:09 AM

That's something.
Could use a stick though, looks too civilized
Posted By: SpareParts

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:31 AM

Volare is missing the point..... HARD!!! he's mad because the block didn't break lmao
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:32 AM

So whoever is lightest is coolest? GTF outta here, I cant believe the idiots on here that cant give credit to something when its slapping them upside the head with deserving it...when was the last time ANY factory car ANYWHERE could handle 1000rwhp hotlaps with a stock trans pushing 4400lbs? If any of you nimrods stuck in 1978 had any brains you would be calling Chrysler right now trying to figure out how to get that trans in your 600hp Volare so you could FINALLY have something....
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:32 AM

Originally Posted By twayne24365
Originally Posted By Malicious�
Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.


You'd think Mopar fans would be happy with that.
It's ashamed dodge finally steps up and makes something worth making and people still [censored] about it


Don't worry it's sure to get worse.........

Rickster
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:39 AM

Originally Posted By 1980volare
That 4 door "luxury" car weights 3-600lbs MORE then your truck. I'm not sure why you're upset.



They are heavy and slow, much like everything Chrysler produces. Doesn't mean they can't be fast, but why spend 70-80k on a car, modify it to take it to the track, then have to remove creature comforts to race it. Just doesn't make sense.


Because my truck is STILL PIG Heavy (according to you). Gotta sell it and race a 500 lb bike!
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:40 AM

Originally Posted By Malicious�
Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.


Little more than that, with an aftermarket blower being the main mod.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:44 AM

It has a crank pulley, E85 tune and 305 dr's. Reading is fun.
EDIT: just read it also has a 2.75 blower pulley also, stock boost is 11-11.5, a crank pulley puts it to 14psi, that combined with a 2.75 upper makes 18psi. These runs were stock except for 2 pulleys, E85 tune and swapping rear tires. What a lame achievement....said the closet Chevy/Ford lovers.
Posted By: dvw

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 06:03 AM

Lets see 2.6-2.7 per cube through cats. Personally I'd be really good with that. Barton is making over 2.2 naturally aspirated. It just goes to show you how good the new Hemi stuff is. Makes me want to trade in my wimpy 572 that doesn't even make 1.6
Doug
Posted By: 451Cuda

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 06:26 AM

Pretty amazing. Look how far the musclecar has come - this 4600 pound luxury sedan could outrun the entire 1970 Pro Stock field.
Posted By: ProSport

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 06:35 AM

I LOVE IT!!!

I've had 2 different cars that ran in the 9's but they weren't very streetable and sure as heck didn't have comfy seats, a big stereo, AC, cruise control, highway gearing etc etc.

If I had the money I'd buy one of these Hellcats in a heartbeat but I also know that I'd miss my old muscle car so I'd have to have both!
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 07:53 AM

Wow, the crying is incredible. I watch her drive it to the track make her passes, and drive it home. She is there all the time racing it. It's a killer car and I love it.
Posted By: 383man

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted By Malicious�
Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.


Malicious-- I totally agree! That gal's charger is AWESOME. It's also a reminder that vintage muscle cars no longer rule the street, OR the track!

My hat's off to her.




Its a fast car for sure and impressive even more because of the weight. Cars of today are taking advantage of modern tecnology as all the real fast newer cars run a power added like turbo's and superchargers. The fact is the technology is good enough that the factory's can sell cars with power adders and even offer a warranty. I know I basically built my 63 like I would have in the 70's as we just did not use power adders back then and my guess is they just did not have the technology to make the power adders real street friendly. And you have to understand that today they do and we all know how much power these super and turbo chargers add. Heck my 63 would have been the fastest street car around running in the 10's in the 70's. But today there are some very fast street cars that dont sound or look as fast as they are. Its great to see the cars run so good but you cant really compare the older stock muscle cars that were all N/A to these cars today that are all boosted. I have been saying for a few years that Mopar needed to boost the Challenger to be competitive with the boosted Mustang's and Camaro's and its great they did it. Myself I love the cars I grew up around and I love when I can race in a Nostalgic Superstock class because its the cars I love. But it is great to see the Hellcat's posting these awesome numbers and I sure as heck do respect them. Ron
Posted By: 451Cuda

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 08:14 AM

I read that the 2017 Chrysler 300 will have a model with the Hellcat package...can anyone verify?
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By TheOtherDodge
Originally Posted By Malicious�
Unbelievable that I post a video of a woman running 9.70's in a full street Mopar anyone car buy, with a pulley, tune and drag radials - and people somehow find something wrong with it, wow.


Little more than that, with an aftermarket blower being the main mod.

Proof? Pretty sure its stock
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 12:11 PM

Mopar guys are there own worst enemy. Nothing against muscle cars at all (hell I own a '67 Coronet) but if you can't appreciate a basically factory stock Mopar running 9's you need to stop hitting your head on every wall you pass cause you're causing brain damage. "Oh, it ONLY runs 9's and has a 1000 hp, the owner should fall on his own sword that's so shameful". This isn't a dedicated drag car, this is a family car you can go anywhere in, not some nervous barely able to make it idling through a stop light cycle drag car. It's not optimized for 1/4 mile racing (although it does do fairly decent). Pop this drivetrain in your 3400 lb A body and it'll run 8's.
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 02:36 PM

Jimmys= rustled
Posted By: Roughbird72

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 03:40 PM

up
Hat's off to her, technology is a wonderful thing.
Being she's got my street car covered by 1.50 seconds i'll be throwing no stones, especially since it also undoubtedly get's better mileage & rides nicer too.
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Mopar guys are there own worst enemy.


Hey you think thats bad? I can take a damn near stock CSX and blast into the 12's with it with $100 worth of parts and a number of Mopar guys will give me the stink-eye because the drive wheels are on the wrong end of the car.

This is nothing new, I have been dealing with it for years. Its like they are trapped in some time bubble from 1965-1971. They hate anything post 1971.

I like them all, FWD or RWD as long as they carry the Mopar banner and are fun to drive.

The Hellcat package is outstanding, been very, very tempted to sell off two rides and pick one up. Or a Scat Pack. So far I have managed to resist.
Posted By: 2boltmain

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 04:22 PM

I love it when the unloved and under appreciated Dodge cars do fantastic times like this. I realize this car probably is not showroom stock and Dodge is owned by Italians and that Camaro and Mustang have 2 less doors and are lighter and........................Its just satisfying to see people I know --who hate Dodge for really no good reason- see videos like this. I have some Chevy ignoramus co workers who will see this clip at work monday. Just like in the past- Chevy is not the only way to go fast.
Posted By: tboomer

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 04:34 PM

I think that is cool! For a comparison my 2014 Challenger SXT ran 15.035 with a 6 cylinder. It would have been into the 14s if it wouldn't have spun off the line so badly. And that is more than enough to kick the crap outta most late 60s and 70s muscle cars. The new Charger would whip my 512 CID 64 Dodge! laugh2
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 04:59 PM

Whatever your thoughts at least we know there is a young group of engineers having fun with V8 RWD platforms and corporate is running with the ball. As close as we've come in the past to it dyeing off , performance lives on. My thought was back when the 4.7 came out it would have been great if they would have made the 2 door Avenger about 4" longer in the front, rwd, and perhaps it would have become our "mustang".
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:28 PM

Malicious: My comment was not to take anything away from the accomplishment. I thought when she said "blower only" I thought she was referring to the main mod (since they come stock with blowers). But listening to the context of her statement again while talking about nitrous, she may have been simply stating "blower only, no nitrous".
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 05:39 PM

That older gal can certainly drive that's for sure.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 06:05 PM

They still have yet to tap into the trans programming. In typical Mopar fashion they have it locked up pretty good.
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 07:07 PM

This place is like the Bullet, if it don't run high 5's it ain't fast. blah

I think it's incredible that you can have a 9 second car that you can change tires and head out the gate, turn the A/C and stereo on, and cruise all day at 80 and still get almost 20 mpg or better. boogie
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 07:43 PM

We have to realize there are two camps here, n/a on one side and blowers, turbos and nitrous on the other. I respect what this lady has done to run in the nines( I would have one if I could afford it) but... I'm more impressed with that guys Scat Pac, adding tires and running 11.85( which my SRT should run too). It's more of a testament seeing what an engine will do by itself ( like Bartons ). Since I'm not living in the old days I will be putting a turbo,nitrous on my Gen lll for the 73 Cuda, I want to run fast and cheap too! Heck there was this guy with Ed Millers old car that had a junkyard full of 440s he'd stick one in the car with a cam,carb and intake with a 500 hp nitrous kit and run in the mid fives, for awhile, then stick anouther in, do the same, does that impress you, funny to me. Just proves you can take average stuff and make it fly with power adders.
Posted By: dustergirl340

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
There are a lot of Chevy guys on this forum these days. They can't get their Mopars to run fast so they jump ship.


bwhahaha

I think it's cool as hell. Especially in a 4-door family sedan. LOL.
Posted By: Bigbeep

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 08:23 PM

I bet she is happy. And from where I'm sitting, that's what counts! 2 cents Beep
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 08:27 PM

As for the "Chevy guys can't get their cars as fast.." comment....Uhm, the CTS-V has been in the 9's for a long time and a few in the 8's. We won't even talk about the other LS platform cars either.

The Hellcat is a great car but some of you act like there is no car faster out there! geez.
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 08:30 PM

Cool 10-sec V Wagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydTFISfwpRo

Same odd sounding trans during passes - and look at the black smoke during shifts, I think that's the torque management (pulls timing right as the trans shifts to keep it alive). Removing that in a 392 car is worth a few tenths alone...
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 08:58 PM

Don't even compare the LS crap that's had its balls nuzzled by the aftermarket for 15 yrs. to a package that hasn't even been out for a year. Really? There is a Challenger out there in 6's let's not forget.
Posted By: RSNOMO

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By 72Swinger
nuzzled by the aftermarket



And therein lies the problem...

You think a blower-motor in 4600 lbs. is gonna make that all go away???


Talk to the engine builders...

Look at the current state of 'Mopar Peformance'...

Look at the Summit, and Jeg's catalogs...


The juggernaut that is Ford and GM is KILLING 'Chrysler'...

No revelation there...


There's late model 8-second cars in these parts with license plates on the back...

Ain't none of 'em 'FCA'...


Those of us that have been around lived through '71 to '08...

All those years languishing...

While Ford and the General kept on rolling...


You can't change history...
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 09:37 PM

Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By 72Swinger
nuzzled by the aftermarket



And therein lies the problem...

You think a blower-motor in 4600 lbs. is gonna make that all go away???


Talk to the engine builders...

Look at the current state of 'Mopar Peformance'...

Look at the Summit, and Jeg's catalogs...


The juggernaut that is Ford and GM is KILLING 'Chrysler'...

No revelation there...


There's late model 8-second cars in these parts with license plates on the back...

Ain't none of 'em 'FCA'...


Those of us that have been around lived through '71 to '08...

All those years languishing...

While Ford and the General kept on rolling...




You can't change history...




Mopar Performance has always been repackage 3PL since the 90s. twocents
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 09:41 PM

And I think we will all be here when it takes its last breath to.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 10:21 PM

Talking with my nephews daughters boyfriend( about 20) the other day and he said the younger people like the looks of the Challenger but they are to big a heavy. Old people's car.
Posted By: RSNOMO

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 10:43 PM

There's a local club here...

DAMM...

They lean towards late-model Mopars...


Saw 'em out on Woodward last summer...

They were getting some goodly amount of cars out there...

Which is probably a good thing...


They walked over, invited me to come and hang...

With the 'old sh!t'...


(They even had some 'moredoors'...)
Posted By: RapidusMaximus

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 10:48 PM

Isnt the internet awesome! Somebody posts a video of a 4 door, fully equipped grocery getter running 9's at 140 and all Hellcat breaks loose...ha...I don't care how heavy it is or what it is slower than... I'm a Mopar guy on a Mopar board...and that car is f-ing awesome, and yes, that's my Mopar loving, head in the sand 2 cents worth...on yeah and I ride a Harley too...wow is it heavy... beer boogie
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 11:46 PM

Originally Posted By 72Swinger
Don't even compare the LS crap that's had its balls nuzzled by the aftermarket for 15 yrs. to a package that hasn't even been out for a year. Really? There is a Challenger out there in 6's let's not forget.


Why? Becasue either: 1-its true or 2-it makes the "Mopar or no car" boys butt hurt?

The statement that "slow Chevy guys...." just is flat out Wrong.

The Hemi platform has been out since 2003. Is that enoough time to compare it to the LS platform that came out in 96? the fact is, there is much more aftermarket for Chevy. Your denial does not alter reality.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/29/15 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By TheOtherDodge
Originally Posted By 72Swinger
Don't even compare the LS crap that's had its balls nuzzled by the aftermarket for 15 yrs. to a package that hasn't even been out for a year. Really? There is a Challenger out there in 6's let's not forget.


Why? Becasue either: 1-its true or 2-it makes the "Mopar or no car" boys butt hurt?

The statement that "slow Chevy guys...." just is flat out Wrong.

The Hemi platform has been out since 2003. Is that enoough time to compare it to the LS platform that came out in 96? the fact is, there is much more aftermarket for Chevy. Your denial does not alter reality.


So why did engine masters pull the 3rd gen hemi out of competition. They made there own class to compete in after it won two years in a row. Don't do that for ls stuff. Rob Goss went 202 mph with a factory iron block in his challenger, find me a factory ls block doing that.
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/30/15 12:03 AM

Years ago people thought a boneyard LS wouldn't live with a turbo - now they say the same about a 5.7L hemi....(hemis make more power than LS's size for size)
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/30/15 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By TheOtherDodge
Originally Posted By 72Swinger
Don't even compare the LS crap that's had its balls nuzzled by the aftermarket for 15 yrs. to a package that hasn't even been out for a year. Really? There is a Challenger out there in 6's let's not forget.


Why? Becasue either: 1-its true or 2-it makes the "Mopar or no car" boys butt hurt?

The statement that "slow Chevy guys...." just is flat out Wrong.

The Hemi platform has been out since 2003. Is that enoough time to compare it to the LS platform that came out in 96? the fact is, there is much more aftermarket for Chevy. Your denial does not alter reality.
I may be Mopar or no car, but I also have enough brains to see something that IS fast no matter the brand and dont hesitate to acknowledge REALITY. My point is even though Chrysler/Fiat is late to the party, they have MORE than caught up and without the nut nuzzlers like Lingenfelter, Holley, Dart, RHS, Jegs, Summit,MAST, Steilow, MSD, Edelbrock etc. etc. etc. propping up their oem substandard products. The Camaro and the Mustang both would be screwed without the HUGE aftermarket support they always automatically receive even before they hit the dealerships. Its funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Mopar is non-existent for products for whatever reason ever since the mafia took over.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/30/15 02:28 AM

This impressive too, just not nearly as "stock". And its even at the same track!Ported blower,heads,headers and aftermarket fuel system, and its lighter. Has 2 MPH on the 4 door.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESKmKEvveMk
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/30/15 02:31 AM

That was very cool. Mid aged lady driving the pants off that Charger and having a blast. Good for her. And I liked how she drove it home too. up
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Hellcat Charger 9.71 - 11/30/15 03:29 PM

great.... I was thinking about a 2015 R/T in the spring Now I want one of those. Good thing I cannot afford it. Seems to be a full interior non-gutted car. very impressive.
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