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First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's

Posted By: SSDAcuda

First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 12:33 AM

Had the car out last weekend at Atco, and major bugs are finally worked out. Super Stock "Legal" 426 (439") Street Hemi broke the 8 second Barrier. 8.87 @ just under 150mph.

Many thanks to Ray and David Barton as this is now the baddest Street Hemi on the planet. Carter 625 carbs and all!!

This was actually run #2. Run 1 was 8.906, but no one recorded it on video.
Enjoy:

https://youtu.be/Eqi00eHR9SE
Posted By: mopar873

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 12:42 AM

Sweet!
Posted By: RV2

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 12:43 AM

Nice!
Posted By: Stroker Scamp

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 01:41 AM

My favorite class next to stock, congrats and beautiful car
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 03:04 AM

Thanks Guys! The "Bada$$" of the beast!

Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 03:23 AM

That is awesome!
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 04:01 AM

Congratulations! A rocket and show car too.
Posted By: 6PAK70CUDA

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 04:15 AM

Fantastic! Congrats on keeping the SS Hemi alive and kicking in class racing. Everyone knows what SS/AH are doing but the SS/CA/DA/EA have always been a favorite of mine.
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 04:50 AM

One of my two favorite cars, other being 68 s/s Cuda. Great accomplishment.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 05:21 AM

Congrats
Posted By: Leigh

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 09:20 AM

Really nice clean stage driveability. Picture perfect launch. Sounds great on the hit, too. Nice!
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 12:56 PM

Originally Posted By Leigh
Really nice clean stage driveability. Picture perfect launch. Sounds great on the hit, too. Nice!


Thanks. Thats been the biggest struggle, to get the AFB's figured out!!

Posted By: Craig

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 01:30 PM

Outstanding, congratulations! What a beautiful car. Must have been tough getting those carbs under the scoop with the tunnel ram - love to see a pic of the bottom of the scoop...
Posted By: Jacob Pitt

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 02:08 PM

That car is killer!
Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 02:13 PM

My favorite racecar of all time, for a very long time...and I like a lot of mopar racecars!!
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 02:41 PM

Awesome! Great job and OUTSTANDING car!

*IMO the SS/CA/DA/EA cars are the only "real" S/S cars.
Posted By: LSP

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 02:54 PM

Very nice, that's haulin" the mail for a street hemi.

You were running well before with the afb's, what changed? Still using metering rods? Going to Maple Grove?
Posted By: JCCuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 03:11 PM

Hi John, Congratulations! That is AWESOME and as always the car looks gorgeous!

How is the AH car coming along?
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 03:15 PM

Very nice, congrats! Beautiful and FAST car!!!
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 05:34 PM

Nice job! Clean and fast!
Posted By: v cummins

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 05:53 PM

Awesome great job on getting the AFBs in the 8s
Posted By: Locomotion

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 06:11 PM

Congratulations! A notable milestone in Mopar history!
Posted By: DusterDave

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 06:44 PM

Now that's an accomplishment! Congrats on getting your Hemi Cuda into the 8's on motor only! beer
Posted By: FastmOp

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 06:45 PM

Work of art !
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 06:59 PM

Originally Posted By Locomotion
Congratulations! A notable milestone in Mopar history!


Boy, that's for sure! One HECK OF A accomplishment. CONGRATS ! ! !
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 07:17 PM

Congrats on the great runs. Better air is coming in the next few weeks too.
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 07:19 PM

I love that car.....
Posted By: Quickrunner

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 07:30 PM

Congrats! That car is beyond nice! I love the craftsmanship and attention to detail.
Posted By: Roughbird72

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 07:37 PM

Congrats! up
Posted By: BradH

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By jim sciortino
I love that car.....

Yep! drool
Posted By: hemid68

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 10:16 PM

Congratulations! That is impressive, and it is always nice to see somebodies hard work pay off. Good luck.
Posted By: Whompin_Wedge

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 09/30/15 11:14 PM

Coolest super stocker out there for sure!!

Casey
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 12:12 AM

Congrats !!! great run and car 8.80s in SS/CA is flying! So Cool!
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 12:31 AM

WOW! Thank you guys for all the kind words!!

And yes this car always ran good and was always fast when raced in good air. It was a very simple combination and worked very well, but to go faster…This one makes 125 hp over the old one. Both on the same Barton Dyno. Ray knows Hemi's!!!

Believe it or not these were the first 2 passes that this engine has gone a to b without an issue. I ran 2 different sets of carbs back and forth trying to eliminate a mild stumble when the converter grabbed the engine. Biggest problem was time or lack of it. Accumulate enough data and notes and you learn….

Right now hoping the Keystones doesn't rain out and affect the Dutch. Hopefully I'll be there and put the record where it will expire before being touched again!!

And as far as the AH car, Lets just say that not only is this red '70 my true passion, but it gets real jealous every time I attempt to work on the AH car. This winter it will get painted, but again, not enough hrs in a day. Any extra time I had between testing this year was spent working on the '70. And it finally is beginning to show!!!

Breaking the 8 second barrier may not mean a whole lot to some, but for me it was a goal ever since I started building this car. The AH cars may be the kings of the race Hemis, but I love the Street Hemi in the B and E bodied cars!!
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 12:48 AM

I hear ya about the Keystones, we are planning to run 11.50 index with my Dart next weekend at the Dutch Classic I really hope they don`t cancel it. Maybe I`ll see you run in person. Good Luck on trying to set the record! Cool!
Posted By: Bigcube

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 01:18 AM

Nice job, love the car, very nicely done. I recall the chassis was built by Kurt at Pro Start Race Cars in NJ? I was wondering if he was still in business, seems like I heard he closed the shop. My chassis was built by him.
Posted By: 383man

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 01:22 AM

Awesome car. Congrats on the 8's. beer Ron
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By Bigcube
Nice job, love the car, very nicely done. I recall the chassis was built by Kurt at Pro Start Race Cars in NJ? I was wondering if he was still in business, seems like I heard he closed the shop. My chassis was built by him.


Yes it was built by Prostart! whiney whiney

Yes, doors were closed right after hurricane Sandy. Very sad day for me and I do still talk to him on occasion. Very gifted craftsman…

whiney whiney whiney whiney
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By 383man
Awesome car. Congrats on the 8's. beer Ron


Thanks Ron!! beer
Posted By: Bigcube

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 01:50 AM

Thanks for the reply and confirmation. Sorry to hear he closed. He was very talented and and worked fast, unlike many chassis shops that seem more like a storage facility. Keep it up with the car, it's an awesome piece. beer
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 12:06 PM

Originally Posted By Bigcube
Thanks for the reply and confirmation. Sorry to hear he closed. He was very talented and and worked fast, unlike many chassis shops that seem more like a storage facility. Keep it up with the car, it's an awesome piece. beer


Kurt just got burned out. That pic was the way I found out he closed. Driving out to Rays and stopped to see what was going on as phone was off. All his equipment was sold to a local guy and loaded in that trailer. And the garbage was ever so efficiently packed in that dumpster!!

He could more with less than most people I knew. I remember talking to him about your car BigCube, and he told me some stories about the build. And very few stories were good!! He hated door cars. Wanted to do Funny Cars and the funny story was he got his wish. The last car he built was an alky f/c for Annie Whitely. Drove him over the edge and shut the doors as soon as it left...
Posted By: ProSport

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 12:13 PM

Congrats! Such an awesome car.
Posted By: cgall

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 03:30 PM

Impressive run! Good luck getting the record.
Posted By: tsanchez

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 05:17 PM

Awesome!
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 06:57 PM

John,I am ver happy for you,you have worked hard and waited a long time for this. Exolains why I havn't seen you at E/town.
I will try to get to the Dutch smoke
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 07:23 PM

1.18 under is very impressive. Just don't go 1.20 for the HP hit!
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 07:43 PM

Very impressive , congrats John beer
Posted By: Skypower

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 10:58 PM

Um I hate to be the bearer of bad news after all this praise but you are now looking at having to spend more money on that ride updating the safety equipment and adding a parachute. Damn I really hate it when that happens. lol

Great job I love your car I hope my Hemi runs like that when I get the bugs sorted out.
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 11:41 PM

Originally Posted By Skypower
Um I hate to be the bearer of bad news after all this praise but you are now looking at having to spend more money on that ride updating the safety equipment and adding a parachute. Damn I really hate it when that happens. lol

Great job I love your car I hope my Hemi runs like that when I get the bugs sorted out.




The car already has an 8.50 cert chassis and you don't need the chute until 150 mph. I plan on adding one over the winter and that is an update I will wear proudly. smoke smoke smoke
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/01/15 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By Triple Threat
1.18 under is very impressive. Just don't go 1.20 for the HP hit!


At National Open Races there is no AHFS. As fast as you can go without taking the hit. But yes, that was also one of the reasons I elected to withdraw from the Keystones. Runs under 1.00 sec. do hit the trigger which will put the combo under review. And 1.2 under is horsepower on Monday.
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/02/15 12:28 AM

Originally Posted By SSDAcuda
Originally Posted By Triple Threat
1.18 under is very impressive. Just don't go 1.20 for the HP hit!


At National Open Races there is no AHFS. As fast as you can go without taking the hit. But yes, that was also one of the reasons I elected to withdraw from the Keystones. Runs under 1.00 sec. do hit the trigger which will put the combo under review. And 1.2 under is horsepower on Monday.


Ahhhh I was unaware this was a National open. In that case, Let 'er eat!!!
Posted By: cgall

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/10/15 01:42 PM

Congrats on the new records!
Posted By: Jerry Kathe

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/10/15 02:32 PM

Absolutely beautiful, with performance to match!

This would be my dream car if I had the funding to support it and similar to your comment - I also prefer these over the AH cars.

25 years ago I built its twin, it also ran in the eights.....but it was 2960 lbs with 540 cubes of bracket engine - lol.

Nice job, look forward to seeing it in person. [img:left][/img]
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/11/15 12:48 PM

Originally Posted By cgall
Congrats on the new records!


Thank You!!

The car ran flawless all weekend and while the weather was not what I had hoped for… WE GOT IT!!!

A BIG thanks to Ray Barton and everyone at Ray Barton Racing Engines!! The MPH tells the tale. Without Rays Hemi it wouldn't have happened in that air! Now time to get ready for the Atco open in the spring and put the records even lower!!

AND…Add a parachute smoke punkrocka !! THANKS RAY up !!!

SS/DA lowered from a 9.11 to 9.07@147!!

Doug Walker Photo(THANKS Doug!! up)


SS/CA lowered from a 9.91 to a 9.89@149.
Posted By: tubtar

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/11/15 05:06 PM

Congratulations on reaching a personal goal ......... that it is also a significant performance milestone is icing on what appears to be a pretty tasty cake.
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/12/15 02:18 AM

Congrats on setting both records! and the air wasn`t even ideal.
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/12/15 12:13 PM

Thanks 11sec! Not the Normal Dutch air for sure on Thursday and Friday… Saturday's air is what I had at least hoped for, but as much as the air could've been better, it also could've been raining! It was good enough for me to get the job done. That RBRE Hemi was singing bow

Is your car Gold? I was helping an AH team in the shoot-out after I finished teardown and saw 11.50 cars in the lanes at one point. Thought it had to be you as not a lot of Darts out there, but you had your helmet on and thats business time in my book… Always nice to meet members and put a name with a face! Next time!! up
Posted By: LAD 524

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/12/15 02:44 PM

That car is a killer unit, congrats on the ETs wink
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/12/15 05:11 PM

Yes thats my gold Dart, My friend Jeff was actually driving this weekend hes much better at deep staging and a pro tree but was struggling with the Maple Grove tree. After an electrical problem and mad thrash sunday morning we missed our third time shot/ qualifier but got it fixed right before first round but he was -005 all on all we had fun and it was cool racing the Dutch and we were treated well from being told when to race by mgmt on a scooter to a great pit spot right next to the lanes and starting line access.. Plus the AH shoot-out was awesome those cars are just incredible , Congrats again
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/12/15 05:24 PM

GREAT job guys. Fast and beautiful too.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/13/15 11:19 PM

It's awesome to see a 70 hemicuda back in the record books for SS/DA. I remember when there were so many of these cars running in SS/DA. It is a rare treat to see one today. One of my favorite cars. Great job and thanks for the memories!
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: First NHRA Super Stock Street Hemi in the 8's - 10/14/15 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By Hemi_Jack
It's awesome to see a 70 hemicuda back in the record books for SS/DA. I remember when there were so many of these cars running in SS/DA. It is a rare treat to see one today. One of my favorite cars. Great job and thanks for the memories!


Thanks Jack! My feelings exactly! I remember when SS/AA through SS/EA were all Hemi Cars in the NHRA record book also…. Good times… Long live the Hemi!!
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