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Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!!
Posted By: daytona5812
Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/24/09 11:41 PM
As most of you know, my last dyno session ended in disaster. Well, it's been a long road back,{ 1 year}, & I finally got the new motor done. Last motor was a 572. This time I went to a 606 cu in.
Went to the dyno today, & things turned out alot better. I'm so happy I could scream. I was hoping for 1020-1050 hp.
What I got was 1124 hp at 7200 & 902 tq at 5700.
Can't wait till summer. Vern!!!
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/24/09 11:47 PM
Congrats. Suprises are always nice. Congrats. Whats the combo ??
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/24/09 11:51 PM
AWSOME!exceeding the goal feels sweet huh?!
almost!makes the wait worth it.
Posted By: dave571
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 12:18 AM
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Congrats. Whats the combo ??
ya man... some specs would be awesmoe here
-How did you get 606 (bore, stroke, block)
-cam?
-heads?
-comp?
Good job on getting that much power 
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 12:26 AM
It's a Indy Max Alum block 4.508 bore
Callies 4.75 crank
Grodin alum rods
CP flat top pistons
Jessel belt drive
Fred Brewer heads
Custom made sheet metal intake by ZONKZ.com
Two 850 dominators
MSD crank trigger
NRC offset dist
Lunati cam .875 in .800 ex dur @ .50 290 in 307 ex
T&D 1.75 rockers
Matton 7/16 push rods
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 12:28 AM
man those are great BSFC#'s!
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 12:29 AM
Oh yea, I almost forgot,
Custom set of Firecore plug wires!!!
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 12:31 AM
any pics ?
do you have a part number on the 850 dominaters ?
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 12:34 AM
I was going to say the same think about the brake specifics......AWESOME and definately dialed in.
This thing will fly no matter what you put it in.
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 12:48 AM
The carbs are 15 yr old pro-stock carbs. I'm borrowing them from the guy that made my intake. I can look for a part #, but there are some mods made to those carbs that I have never seen before.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:02 AM
Nice numbers
1.85 hp per ci
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:05 AM
is that a NRC offset distributer
GOOD LUCK !
Posted By: gregsdart
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:09 AM
Wow, Vern, thats some motor ya got there!
Those heads really work with the right parts around em! Congrats!!
What do you expect? 7.80s?
Posted By: gregsdart
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:11 AM
I have heard you can judge a set of wedge heads by the length of the valves. Brewer valves come in a broom handle box!!
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:12 AM
Yes it's a NRC dist. Are you implying there is something wrong with the dist. or wishing me good luck with the new motor?
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:16 AM
That is some serious normally aspirated horsepower. Nice job. What kind of flow do those heads go?
Posted By: Ari440
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:18 AM
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Yes it's a NRC dist. Are you implying there is something wrong with the dist. or wishing me good luck with the new motor?
GOOD LUCK WITH THE MOTER
just asking what distributer it is
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:19 AM
Hi Greg, long time no see. I'm hoping to run close to that. I went 8.08 at 176 w/1028 hp @ 2570 lbs. Now with less weight [ alum block] & a little more hp, it should be close to that.
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:20 AM
Sorry, I read it wrong. Thanks, Vern!!
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:25 AM
I sent the heads to Barton Heads in Oklahoma & he messaged them a little.
They flow 479 in & 409 ex.
Posted By: Bubba
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 01:31 AM
Sweet!
Posted By: moparmanjames
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 02:15 AM
Awesome!
Posted By: tjmarcus1
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 02:59 AM
i don't know what the carbs actually flow, but it seems to me that big motor would like more cfm on the carbs. but, with that hp number, who knows? that's awesome
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 03:07 AM
Wow
You just dont hear much about the Fred Brewer heads, I would love to here the details about them. Rocker system offset, intake/exhaust port location, valve size/length, runner volumes. Chamber size, layouts, valve angle etc.
I assume only fab'd intake correct? I mean one could adapt a cast intake?
Posted By: dave571
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 03:12 AM
I have to ask. What sort of money has been spent on this motor?
Round figures are fine. I'm just curious, as it all looks like top of the line stuff.
Looks really nice in the pictures man
Posted By: 5537SG
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 03:17 AM
Thats great Vern!
I was wondering how things were working out, Im glad to see all your work and patience pay off... Im sure you'll get your number.
Jeff
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 03:23 AM
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I have heard you can judge a set of wedge heads by the length of the valves. Brewer valves come in a broom handle box!!
Those heads do look really tall! I recall reading about them in Senatore's book...he said the valves were even longer than B1/TS's, IIRC.
Those flow numbers are much like the B1-PSO head Best Machine is selling.
I also wish a major company would buy the right to Freds heads. If for no other reason than to preserve a great mopar head!
Glad your combo clicked this time, thats a bad azz motor you have!
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 03:51 AM
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Oh yea, I almost forgot,
Custom set of Firecore plug wires!!!
I was praying you'd say that !! We are grateful for the opportunity. Nice pics. Any video of the dyno pulls ?
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 03:57 AM
I wish I could answer all your questions, but I just don't know. I have some paper work on them, but not that much information. Yes the intake was made for me by a good friend. I have a cast single 4 intake for it that worked quite well on the 572.
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 04:28 AM
I would have sit down & figure it out. But if I had to guess, I would say between 20 to 25 thou.
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 04:31 AM
Yup, I have video. I just have to remember how to post them on You-Tube. I'll work on it tomorrow.
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 04:34 AM
Vern,is there anyway you can add into the video, the name of the dyno shop ? May we use the video on the website ? Thanks for the info..
Posted By: 4404dart
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 06:11 AM
What I got was 1124 hp at 7200 & 902 tq at 5700.
Can't wait till summer. Vern!!!
That's excellent vern!
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 06:20 AM
Nice numbers Vern. Glad to see the patience and hard work pay off. Good luck with the new bullet and for the upcoming season.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 05:09 PM
Awesome Vern Way to go!!! Dan Barton is in Houston
tx @ Westside performance. Fred's tooling was for sale Last time I talked to Him and for a song really
Billy Boy
Posted By: dthemi
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 05:55 PM
WOOOoo HOOO that's great power man, you'll be in the wind for sure
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 06:05 PM
not to take away from the performance #'s but what was the correction factor for alt,humi?.02cf for instance.
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 06:59 PM
Sorry Billy Boy, I've sent so much stuff around the United States, that it's easy to get confused.
Besides, I got that AGE thing going for me!!
Thanks for correcting me, Vern!!
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 07:06 PM
Metal Storm, I don't know what the numbers are, but I can find out when I go back to get the motor. I know we could'nt use the cold air duct, so we just used the air in the room, not very big, so I don't know if that made a difference or not. You can see it on the video when I get it posted.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/25/09 08:01 PM
a closed dyno room makes a big difference.like going from sea level to 3,000 or 4,000ft about .08 or .10 on the correction i think.it would be on the dyno slip but it does not matter.i just asked.
Posted By: PETE@BESTMACHINE
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 01:28 AM
Good job on the build,Its nice to hear about some bigger engines and combos.Are you going to keep the carbs or get something else?Lets here about the car.
Posted By: Hot 340
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 01:47 AM
Glad to hear you are back in action...that dyno vid of your last motor breaking was the most gut-wretching thing Ive seen on youtube yet..maybe you should post a link just for old times sake...
Posted By: jamesc
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 01:50 AM
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Fred's tooling was for sale Last time I talked to Him and for a song really
Billy Boy
i've wondered what happened to the cores and what not from these heads. as you mentioned i thought i remember seeing something that remarked they were for sale. weren't they based on an older AMC prostock head? aside from the quality control issues the were supposed to have at times they always seem to be a good performing head.
congrats on the sucess Vern...that video was a horror to watch 
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 03:33 AM
Pete, I can use the carbs as long as I need them. The owner doesn't want to sell & I don't blame em. I have other ( bigger carbs ) to try, but at this point, I think I'll leave well enough alone. The car is a 93 Daytona, MS chassis.
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 03:36 AM
Hot340, I don't remember how to post the link, but it's still there under, My day at the dyno.
Personally, I prefer not to watch anymore.
Posted By: tjmarcus1
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 03:39 AM
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Pete, I can use the carbs as long as I need them. The owner doesn't want to sell & I don't blame em. I have other ( bigger carbs ) to try, but at this point, I think I'll leave well enough alone. The car is a 93 Daytona, MS chassis.
that is a thing of beauty! i really like the pentastar in the scoop. by all means, get it running and share the success with all of us.
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 03:51 AM
Jamesc, I don't know about the AMC head, but I have a picture of Freds AMC that he had a 572 w/his heads on it. I have talked to Fred many times since buying these heads, & he is a very nice & helpfull guy when it comes to his heads. Yes, they had some issues, but, when resolved, these heads really work good. Vern!!
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 03:58 AM
Tjmarcus1, thank you very much. I've had the car for a long time, & I love it. A friend of mine owns a grafics shop & he made them for me. I have them on my 4-wheeler (tow rig) also.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 04:25 AM
Vern I did not know your car was a MS car..What does it weigh. In my continuing effort to confirm I own the worlds heaviest tube chassis drag car I am curious.
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 03:26 PM
Nice work! And as has been said already...looks like your patience has paid off.
Posted By: BDS871Cuda
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 03:52 PM
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Vern I did not know your car was a MS car..What does it weigh. In my continuing effort to confirm I own the worlds heaviest tube chassis drag car I am curious.
He said 2570 lbs was the old set up so this will be
less.
Sweet car! Sweet power!
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/29/09 04:40 PM
Guess I missed that part. Is that race ready or minus driver. Heck I went to an aluminum block and am now down to 2800
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/30/09 01:41 AM
Yes Al, that's race weight, with me ( 140, WET ) in it & full of fuel. With my little motor, ( 514 ), it weights 2465 race ready.
So, I guess you win. Vern!!
Posted By: Triple Threat
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/30/09 05:22 AM
Beautiful car, Beautiful motor. I'm jealous. I wish you the best of luck with it!
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/30/09 05:29 AM
Well Vern it is not a thing I wanted to win...Mine is just a pig
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/30/09 09:27 PM
Triple Threat, Thank you very much. Vern!!
Posted By: daytona5812
Re: Finally, REDEMPTION. Dyno Results!!!! - 01/30/09 09:34 PM
Al, your car is beautiful!! I would'nt call it a pig though. Maybe just a FAST FRIGGIN CAR!!