11.99 ENGINE DIAPER (update)

Dragway 42
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT..

Since we are getting closer to opening we want to announce that we are making it MANDATORY that any car in any class that is quicker than 11.99 on the 1/4 mile or 7.60 in the 1/8th mile, MUST HAVE A ENGINE DIAPER. These are available at Summit and Jeg's as well as J&J Joe West, and we may stock them also. We will check for them on the car before giving out a Tech Approval sticker. Thanks in advance for your co-operation.

well after all post about it on facebook and other places they changed the rule to 9.99 and fast

Overkill!

Yeah thats pretty rough, I do not doubt the value of an engine diaper and will add one to my car when it becomes needed due to ET. I don't know the lay of the land near dragway 42 but if that was my home track I would probably be looking at my other track options before I messed with a diaper on my 11 second street car.

I can't argue against the added safety aspect of an engine diaper, and I did put one on my car (9.00 ET) this year. But I feel the engines in 11.99 cars are not the oil down problem and it puts excessive cost on the slower cars. Those diapers the track is talking about won't fit on a Mopar A-body with a big block engine.

I got one custom made by Russlerii for $168. This fits a center sump in an A-body with factory steering link under the rear of the pan. I recommend him for a sportsman diaper. Great service too.
http://www.russlerii.com/

Everyone get ready as I heard that this will be the norm very soon from NHRA. Dragway 42 is getting out in front but it will become a requirement in the not too distant future at all NHRA tracks.


I can see this for cars that are 10.0 or quicker (maybe) but they are getting really stupid now with the requirement for those ET's.

their nuts if they think people are going to run diapers on their street cars. NHRA will finish off this sport all together if they keep this up.

Believe most of these are track decisions..... Either way, Russ is a good guy. He started this as a hobby to help his nostalgia racing buddies and it blossomed from there. I am fortunate to live near him and he came over and custom built my diaper for my W8 mill.

I have been avoiding it, but it looks like our backs are against the wall at almost every track now. I don't disagree that it is a useful safety item on the quicker cars, but there are lots of street cars that are faster than 11.99 and these people will not spend the money on a diaper, they will just go back to street racing.

At the Victory NSS Series opener in St. Louis they announced that next year it will be mandatory to run in any of their races. DRE is one of the sponsors now and is offering a discount for Victory Series racers.... Of course my low deck wedge with 4 speed in my 68 Cuda will require a custom $500+ diaper.... Been thinking about a belly pan instead, but cant see a way to make it work on my car.

To make it worse, I recently picked up a windowed Keith Black block that I plan on repairing. If I bite the bullet now and buy one for a low deck, I will have to buy another one for the KB block in a year or two......

Oh well, their play ground, their rules.....

-Dave

I don't know, I've seen my share of car's in the guardrails and car's going through the lights on the roof over the last 40 years to think it's not a bad idea. I'm rebuilding my 64 Fairlane for my daughter to run 11.50s, it will have diaper on it and I will be putting one on the Plymouth as well.

You should be fine with the same diaper for both blocks if you plan on running the same style pan. The straps are very adjustable.

I want to put one on my Cuda, but the price is prohibitive and the fit is a concern. We must run factory steering in NSS, and I worry about the diaper clearance.

If I could run one of the $200 ones, and not have issues with the steering, I would already have one on my car. There isn't much room, even with semi fenderwell headers, everything on the drivers side is a PIA. Took me nearly an hour at the St. Louis race this year to tighten the battery cable on the starter. Would have been one hell of a fight with a diaper!

This winter I will be ordering one, unless I can figure out a way to put a belly pan on it.

-Dave

When I build the new engine I will probably be going from a wedge to a HEMI. The block is an old HEMI water block i got on the cheap. I e-mailed KB about it to find out more info, and price out new sleeves, but never heard back from them. It is definitely a ways in the future but it would suck to have to buy two....

-Dave

Good thing I'm not a class racer, I don't have to deal with this kinda thing.

DRE
Dennis Ridgeway
BEST service--best fit period!
Got a ballastic cloth unit for my front engine dragster fits like a dream--on and off in seconds--The Best!

PRP (IHRA) has already warned us to give us a head-start getting our cars fitted for them. Its coming to a track near you real soon.

I have to move 3 of my header tubes to get one on my small block with hedmen headers and a Milidon oil pan. Not a real big project.

Well DUH your blanket comes off in seconds...... Suppose your giong to praise how easily your headers come off too. Pipe rack...... Difficulty level: zero!

Are you sure a little creativity won't work?

I bought mine from Ram Jet Racing and he put high heat material where it is close to the header and then I used 1/8 aluminum plate to keep the diaper against the block. I have very little clearance is a couple of spots.

I was already creative with a 4 pound hammer just to get the dog-gone headers on the car with that pan. I even bought a Canton oil pan last year to try it BUT that was a major mistake, but that's another story.

I agree on a street car is a little over kill. However you don't need to spend $500 to get a custom well fitting diaper. I bought custom one made by Russlerii for $168. It comes off in less than 5 minutes. When I built my car I figured the rule was coming. Not to mention I've had 2 friends kick rods with NO track clean-up require.
Doug

It would be a pain to install a diaper on my Dart. Small block, Hedman headers and a Milodon oil pan I had to section to clear two tubes on the passengers side.

Get ready for the smell of burn/melting nylon!

I agree 100% on overkill...He11 11.99 cars aren't even required to have a roll bar. The best way to find out what's going to be MANDATORY is to see who NHRA's next sponsor is...Now what did I do with them Collector Tethers...LOL Its all about the Benjamin's

I agree. I also know I won't run one. I don't see very many high 11 second street cars scattering engine parts at the track. Mostly the full out race cars. Rules like this are going to kill participation by the average street car racer. Low turn out will lead to higher entry fees to make up for the lower $ intake..
Dragway 42 is an NHRA track? Pittsburgh is an IHRA track..I wonder if Pittsburgh will invoke the same regulations as 42?
Just my 2 cents and thoughts... I'm done venting.

42 is a ihra track that is all new and rebuilt

Everyone I know that runs one the engine temp(and trans)
has gone up... on a street car this MIGHT have its problems..
I'm not for it on a street car... to be more realistic I would
have said 9.99 or quicker... before it was for NHRA races ONLY

I'll put a diaper on my stock a12 road runner..(SURE).. There nuts!!

11.99 is not that fast today.. I guess new cars will have to come with
them installed from the factory..

At least line it up with the bar rule and make it 11.50 !

Yeah, what about box stock Hellcats, Vettes and Mustangs that are deep into the 11's and 10's already?

Perfect way to discourage ANY from wanting to go to a track.
I wish I could curse and tell you what Big A......s run the association.

Been looking forward to 42 opening again. But with this requirement I'll spend my money and time elsewhere. Counting 42 there are 7 tracks w/in 2 hrs of me so I can go elsewhere.
Plain stupid to require this at the listed times and speeds. I can see this being a requirement at the level where the racers chassis needs certified or as noted in the IHRS rule book for 2015 but not at slower limits. This appears to be a track rule.
All this will do is send people to the non sanctioned tracks or other IHRA tracks that are going to enforce the rules as written not make up their own that are more restrictive.

Diapers are great. But to require one at an et slower than a stock Hellcat is stupid.

The streets will be on fire. I guess the street outlaws have been ahead of the pack.

Any engine can blow at any time, wether it' runs 3 sec or 15. Why not make it mandatory for everything.

this is for CLASS RACING. NOT for test and tune cars.

So unless your racing in a class, this rule doesn't apply.

The dragway 42 rules says any CLASS - last I looked trophy class was still a class. So is Street, Pro, Super Pro, etc. same as Stock, Super Stock, etc. I'd venture to guess it's the ET and not the name of the class that will be the deciding factor. While I realize you probably don't run at dragway 42, as was mentioned, the knee jerk idiots at NHRA, especially if they smell a quick buck to be made, will slap a ridiculous rule on something faster than you can spit.

In the spirit of where this topic is going, here is my proposal...

Engine Containment Diaper only required on:
1) Chassis cars including dragsters
2) Professional Class cars (TF, Pro Stock etc.)
3) 8.50 and quicker 1/4 mile, associated 1/8 mile
4) All throttle stop classes (since they can run faster than the index)
5) Any car with a non-factory power adder (Nitrous, blower, turbo)

Specify cars with factory front frame rails do NOT have to have a diaper unless one of the above apply.

Someone is going to have to explain to the new management of this drag strip that this new rule will cost them money, in car turnout. It's hard enough for drag racing venues to stay afloat without shooting themselves in the foot like this.

Test and tune is not a class.
So if you just take your car to the track and want to make some runs, this doesn't apply.

I guess I will have to go to fenderwell headers when Royal Purple Raceway mandates the diaper rules, I don't think my TTI headers will allow for a diaper with an RB in a Demon. Mo money, Mo money!!!



Steve

Does not change the Fact that his products are the best out there and I would say that approx 80% of NHRA cars have his diapers--It is because they fit and because his service is second to None! Now..fact that I have a real race car--designed for racing and not a grocery getter turned drag car points to my many years experience working to fit things in places they won't fit like...your headers, diapers, ummm deep pans etc in said grocery getters and then coming to understand how crazy that is if all I want to do is race a fast car easy as possible--and..I can take 1/2 the HP you need to go same et --I call it a better way--not a pipe rack and ...I built 96% of it myself Geeez! Go ahead and drive yorself nuts putting a saddle on a pig or..just call Dennis and get the best product out there--oh yea--they ain't cheap.

Rocky Mountain Racway in Salt Lake City did this 7 or 8 years ago, it was a track rule. There was a ton of griping about it,they were fairly lenient with it at first, then they enforced it. I haven't raced there in 5 years since I moved east, but in all honesty it did make a difference in oildowns, and downtime at the track. I cant remember now if that rule was 11.99 or 10.99, but think it was 11.99. I bought a cheap one from Russler with the cutouts around the hole in the pan. Ive never needed mine luckily, but Ive seen them work, a big oildown that would take a long cleanup were gone. It was important there since RMR was very slow on any oildown. They didn't have the rule for street night if I remember correctly, but it was the rule and still is as far as I know.

I think it is a great rule. Most of the oil downs at the track these days stems from relatively stock engines with 200+ shots of NOS to get them to run 11.99 or quicker E.T's. those engines are usually not made with good, solid, dependable premium parts because their owners are ignorantly cheap, which they in turn blow up spewing oil all over the track and under the cars tires! The time waiting for clean up will be reduced dramatically as well as having a more consistent racing surface along with more time actually racing not waiting for track clean up. The people who complain about a SAFETY rule which will benefit EVERYONE now and long term, should think about the positive aspects of the rule not the $150-$250 which could very well save THEIR LIFE! If that amount of money is deemed too much for what it can and would potentially save, you should seriously re-think your priorities and the value you put on YOUR LIFE!

No biggie yours will take 10 seconds to install lmao

BINGO. This rule with pay big dividends with less clean-up times, safety, and track costs. Nothing worse than spending an hour in the staging lanes on a 90 degree day on something that could have been prevented.

You guys are missing the point. There is no doubt that it will save down time and of course the safety issues. The point is: Is it needed for a street cars, that go to the track periodically? I see a need for it on "ALL OUT" race cars based on performance levels. I see absolutely NO need for street cars running test and tune or an occasional class race slower than 9.99 seconds. To me, this is over kill.

Have you ever gone to one of PRP's street car only races. I have and there are lots of oil downs during these events too.

Agree with you completely. I have lost an engine at speed. Put a 6" hole in the block and not even a wobble out of the car. The accidents I have seen that were bad were usually traction related or involved a broken suspension or drive train part. Not a blown engine. Your experience may be different than mine and that is fine. Point is there are risks when you race and I see little to no benefit from this rule at the speeds 42 is wanting to enforce. IHRA must agree because their requirements are much different.
Also on my car there is no way one will fit between my headers, oil pan an k-frame or pan and center link.
I didn't build this car to be a dedicated drag car. Its street strip. It will run high 10's to low 11's. Just over kill like replacing belts & window nets every 2 yrs and a money maker for the sponsors.

Bingo!

Well I might be alone but I put one on mine volunteerily. I only go through @ 133 to 135 but I feel better that I might contain the oil in the event it lets go.next project is a belly pan for the trans. BTW I had one made by JJ performance and fit well but tight on the steering link,I glued a thin piece of neoprem to the diaper and no rubbing issues.

My Polara runs 9.90s so even though I am too lazy to get a license, it has a diaper. The challenger runs 11.50s and I would run one if I wasn't worried about oil temp on the street. Don't know if that would be an issue or not.

Rather than requiring it on 10.00-11.99 cars, why not give racers incentives to run one? Whether it's an extra run on a t&t day, or even money incentives. I was told that a racer at a track here in MD paid the next entry fee for a racer who wasn't required to have a diaper but had one anyway and ended up grenading a motor. Costs the track more than that to clean it up, so it seems like a good idea.

One of the most horrific wreaks I have personally seen was a low 12 second S-10 that blew mid track and knocked out the right slick. By the time it was over the truck was on the guard rail with the cab, pivoting at the front bumper, upside down in front of the chassis, driver hanging upside down as well. Engine containment might have prevented this.

One car, blowing an engine with a containment device, might be the difference between finishing a race and not. And when you drive 600 miles to get there.....

Most oil downs I have seen are those 10K rpm imports ,, yes they fly ,but they grenade regularly...JMO

I can see benefits but it is going to kill the entry level participation. .. If I don't sell my Wagon it will be restricted to 12.0 and slower brackets... this is just overkill... so they are going to make the new muscle cars capable of running 11.99 and quicker get a diaper. .. people are not going to go to that effort on a new car.. just to go have fun at the track every once in a while. And there will be a bunch of 60's era hot rod owners who will pass on all that just to make a trip down the 1/4 mile... bad decision for a sport that is struggling to bring in new participants.

I can't say I haven't seen slower cars hurt engines and cause oil downs, but most of the problems I remember seeing at those speeds have been trans blowups, not engine damage. You can add my vote to Overkill! opinion.

If my local tracks do start requiring this for 11.99 and quicker cars, how difficult is it to install one on a B-body street car with tight fitting (tti) headers, a full exhaust, but no power steering? I use a Street Hemi pan, so would I need a custom made diaper to fit the pan? It already looks kind of cramped under there to me.

John treed me on this, with his separate thread...

http://www.dragway42.com/important-announcement-update/

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT UPDATE

by admin · July 6, 2015


A wise man once told me to be successful you have to be flexible, so we have been listening and discussing it at length both in house and with other operators about the ET Break for Mandatory Engine Diapers/Containment Systems. There are so many pros and cons about diapers and the use of them that a firm number for the ET Break could not be established so we are changing ours to fall in line with the other tracks and sanctioning bodies.

ALL CARS IN ALL CLASSES THAT RUN FASTER THAN 9.99 IN THE 1/4 AND 6.40 IN THE 1/8TH MUST HAVE AN ENGINE DIAPER OR CATCH PAN AS PER IHRA RULES.

We wanted to act quickly on this so those that don’t have them can get them if needed and to tell those that were going to get them not to unless they want them.

Finally, Chuck, the voice of reason. Although not a proponent of diapers, I would think that 9.99 might be a more reasonable number.

I have been watching this thread....Ronnie & I host a monthly Nostalgia deal at PRP, and it's been fairly successful in getting some of the old race cars out of the garage, at least once a month. Most are not hard core racers, but old racers with old Maxies, 409s, etc.

I know that telling these guys they'd have to put a diaper on their 11.30 Maxie vintage race car would cause them to just roll right back into the garage and slam the door, again. In my case, with a Hemi B body, I'd probably finally just park it and head to nostalgia shows because, to be frank, for me it just would not be worth the hassle and nightmare of putting one on. Some of us have been doing this for 30, 40+ years without one, and would not do it because some 19 year old kid with a turbocharged 6 cylinder that revs to the moon comes apart when he pushes the nitrous button. I've made literally thousands of passes since 1969, and really could walk away from active racing tomorrow. When one reaches a certain age bulls##t comes a bit less tolerant.

Personally, I think this smacks of the two year belt rule, and others that seem to be designed to help contingency sponsors. All of a sudden we will find "ABC Company" has the "approved" diaper, and BTW just happens to post contingency money.

You guys are using your head, Chuck. BTW.....in a shameless plug, the next Bud's Auto Sales Nostalgia Combo Eliminator is scheduled for Friday, June 17. You can check the site, or check the facebook page.

I checked on the web and the Salt Lake rule I mentioned above was 11.50, that is their cutoff for diapers

Wow. Glen, a good, hot street car can run that....interesting to know how that is being received.

Myself on my stret/strip car I really dont care to have one. But honestly I dont know how much it will effect or how much hassle it will be on my street car. I really love to go to the track and race in the Nostalgic Superstock races when I can which is not as often as I would like to. But I drive it on the street all the time as it is a street car first and most and I drive it to the track many times. I guess I kinda feel like "Steve 1118" as myself I have raced off and on since my first trip down the track in 1975 and have never blown and eng and I bracket raced a 340 four speed car for 5 years. I hope I dont have to buy one and put it on as my funds are tight right now and my car is not a race car as its a 99% street car. But if they make me then I guess I would as I just love that blast down the track whenever I can. Ron

The same ones here complaining about diapers are probably the same ones that complain to high heaven on test-n-tune night, when some junker scatters his motor and it takes 3 hours to clean it up. If said junker had a diaper, it would be a non issue..........BUT, you can't regulate car "niceness" into a rule, so you set an ET limit. I think it is a GREAT rule and my answer to the ones that didn't like it would be "go somewhere else, or stay home". Guys spend hundreds, even thousands on the latest and greatest "widget" for their car. Bling bling wheels for their truck and "goodies" for the trailer......but let a safety issue come up where they might have to spend a few hundred on something that might save their bacon.......it's all a "conspiracy" to take their hard earned money. What a big load of horsesh%$t. You wanna play you pay......it's that simple

Dragway 42 is my home track and I can't wait until they get it done and I was fully prepared to buy a diaper so I could enjoy the track I was looking at just yesterday. To me it wasn't going to be that big of a deal but I just need to do a side job for some new belts and a diaper
It seemed like a bit of overkill to me when I first heard about it but then I figured his track his rules so I'm getting a diaper.
Gus

Glad to hear the track decided to follow the sanctioning bodies et requirements for the diaper.

I have no problem with your opinion Monte...so that's what I did! Now NHRA is crying about dwindling car counts. My last year in NHRA SST was 2008, because in 2009 they announced SST cars had to have a diaper, and I wasn't about to put one on my stock k-member car, so I took my toys and went home, then sold the car. Now, I have a strut car, that will get a belly pan, but I'm not messing with a diaper, and it has nothing to do with the cost.

I don't blame you........I myself prefer a belly pan and you CAN put one on a car with a stock crossmember. We have done several. I hate diapers too.

This fellow that is building the track just learned that there has to be compromise between safety and cost. Edgewater in Ohio implemented a 6.39 ET requirement for a diaper several years ago. Today you see very few door cars dial below 6.40 at that track. It is not only the diaper, though, it is the chassis cert, full cage, full racing suit, license required. Edgewater announced at their banquet one year that the diaper rule would go to 7.00 for the following season. The management received so many negative comments that they rescinded the new rule. A track manager that announces unpopular rules changes without polling the racers is shooting himself in the foot. Same thing at Kilkare, new owner, completely rebuilt track, came up with stupid new rules and his car count plummeted.

If I wasn't at work I would post the pictures of the Arrow after I hit a guardrail at Farmington....the diaper was at home in the basement. Not a huge expense and well worth it for many reasons in my opinion. I won't run anything without one now.

Here is my thoughts on the diaper and other safety issues. Belts, helmets, jackets, shoes, gloves, neck restraints.....whatever. YOU don't want to wear them or pay for them, I DON'T CARE, because that is YOUR azz, you have no consideration for. A diaper on the other hand I DO CARE, because that could be MY azz, when you oil the track and collect my car in your crash......or at the least, create several hours of downtime. As with most anything in this world, the ones who complain the loudest are only concerned about how their actions effect THEM, they don't seem to have much concern about how it effects others

For years I've been strapping myself in with dated seat belts, and its all been a waste of time. I have never needed them. I really hope the diaper I have now will be the same waste of time.

Here is what my local track (Maryland International Raceway) did this year:

Jim, it is rules like that why MIR gets lots of cars! You won't have to worry about me being in the other lane without a diaper, there are plenty of tracks that let you run 6.40 without one and that's where I'll be.

Went the belly pan route. worked really well. I don't think i could have have done a diaper for the tight constraints under my car.

Steve, be afraid if I'm the voice of reason. I'm just passing along the info D42 posted.

I agree with you that the ET cutoff was way too high. Like you said, a couple simple bolt ons on a new Challenger, Charger, Mustang, Camaro, etc, and they're deep into the 11s. Pretty hard to put a diaper or pan on one of those cars.

And a lot of oil downs are like you describe, someone not caring how bad they are pushing the limits. I also believe a lot of oil downs are from transmissions - way too many shortcuts taken in trans lines.

But, if you race often, regardless of ET, I think a diaper is a good idea. Monte is correct, so many will spend the money on bling, or to go a few hundreths quicker, so the money aspect shouldn't be a concern. Parts fail, regardless of how well you build something, maintain it, drive it. I kicked a rod into the oil pan at the top of first gear end of 2012 at PRP. I got it pulled over and stopped with no worries. Had it been at the top of 2nd, or 3rd, it would have been a ride, I fear. And that's going 12.20s. I will have a diaper or pan on. Ask Mike Kelly, with the Palindrome Barracuda, how much he values his diaper. He lost the engine shortly before the 1/4 mile stripe.

Do you have any pictures you would be willing to share? I have been under the Cuda trying to figure out a way to do it, but there just doesn't seem to be a good way to get one to fit.

-Dave

If there is clearance, 1/8 inch, between the headers and block, and the K frame, it will probably fit. DRE provided mine, fits like a glove around the oil pan, with Kevlar sides that go from the pan up the sides of the block, with notches for the pump and motor mounts. The Kevlar can go against the headers. I thought mine would be tough to put on, but once you figure how to secure the straps, its relatively easy. I have one strap going to a header bolt, the rest wrap around the motor mounts and one across the top of the trans. You can't really see it from the top in my 63 Plymouth Sport Fury.

You are right Chuck, I really do value my diapers,I have used them for a few years. I also have one on the trans, covers all the lines and pan. As you know I also cracked the tail shaft case.I was probably still going 130 mph when it happened.But through all that not a drop on the slicks. With that said I have a lot of room to work with,having fenderwell headers,so don't have the issues that a lot guys have to deal with. Even with the great work that Bob and A J do at BG Racing things still happen.(Especially when I pushed it to many runs before pulling the pan) but thanks to them, we are back in shape and ready to go at it.I would say if there is any way you can make a diaper work for you,do it.I have been doing this for 40 years and never had one come outside the block,just because it never has doesn't mean it never will. Mike

After plowing through 4 pages of why you should / shouldn't use a diaper / belly pan, I still contend that 11.99 is way OVERKILL! That rule effects the majority of the street driven cars at my track that are probably not making 500HP and just about never blow up. Unneeded, unnecessary, undrivable( in some street situations ), to the majority of racing attendees' that seldom ( at that HP level ) blow their stuff up. Since NHRA and some tracks, can't seem to pick a realistic ET #, and it sure as hell doesn't seem as though they polled the racers, I think we need to pick a # for them. Oil downs are a real bummer ( and I have set through many of them - pic ), but letting NHRA pick a ridiculous # like that is ----, well, RIDICULOUS!

It would be nice to be racing a new challenger. you could remove the belly pan, trace it out on a sheet of aluminum, add some pigmat for absorption.... BAM! your done!!

We started running diapers after 2012...... it was that embarrassing to be "that guy" that spit a rod out and oil down the top end. Car stayed straight, no damage.... but we did NOT want to be "that guy" again. I will also add that our car has been "redesigned" to accommodate items like this. I could also brag up like Mr. Piperack that my blanket comes off in a matter of minutes, but we run a tube K, steering rack, coil overs which provided tons of room for headers and plenty of space for a containment device.

Absolutely 100% spot on the money. 11, 12, second cars is plenty fast to get hurt. I've seen and read countless times were people said the engine diaper saved their investment. I think it's dumb for anyone to be against safety, and a more efficient running program. Some people don't want to race at 3 am when you only have a couple hundred cars or less.. Then yet again some people like that racing to the next day stuff. Look at it as a small cost to prevent one less accident, clean up, etc. Wake up!!

Unfortunately I will be a spokesman for DRE once again. Pulled a rod and 8 quarts of oil out of the diaper at Norwalk on Friday. Not a drop on the track. For clarity this was NOT a BGR mill that only lasted 5 laps. I won't say who built it since no one here would know anyway.

Sorry to hear this Eric,but thankfully that's as far as the carnage containment went because who knows where or how things would of ended up from there, now after hearing this I am going to put the money in the budget of my next build to ensure it has a diaper on it before it sees the track for the first time, after all I have the tranny blanket already so why not,,the butt you save may be your own,,,,along with others.

Damn Eric.... you've been taking a beating.

I certainly have😐

Yeah but at least he's still standing.