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Are all roller lifters created equal???

Posted By: joshking440

Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 02:51 PM

Well I just go my motor back from Jim Kilpatrick and its down to the little items...

The next one on my list are the roller lifters. Its a Comp Roller with a gross lift of .720.

Is there an advantage to spending Jesel amounts of money. or will a standard set work.

Thanks
Posted By: Brian Hafliger

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 04:49 PM

These work nice

Brian





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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 04:55 PM

Crowers will live with high spring pressures and are reasonable cost Comp 829-16 lifters can't take the big pressure long at all When you send them back to Comp for the rebuild service ( thinking you will save $$ ) they send back incomplete sets and tell you some were shot--then you are buying a couple of pairs at big $$ and the good deal goes out the window---lots of folks have run Comps without problems but a serious race engine needs the Crowers--on SOME blocks a little grinding or machining is needed--good guy to ask is Todd Marsh 336 752 2879 He told me he had Crowers in stock for an unbeatable deal
Posted By: RobR

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 05:59 PM

Crower and Isky for street cars is all I use.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 06:51 PM

I run the isky solid body rollers which work w/un bushed lifter bores and am going on 4+ yrs. street strip w/out any issues so far.

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Posted By: 40ford

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 07:44 PM

The simple answer to "Are all roller lifters equal" is No! But, do you always need to buy the very best---No!

Two things kill roller lifters----spring pressure and lifter float. If you run fairly low spring pressures and always keep the lifter on the cam---then practically all roller lifters will last a very long time. I am installing a 50 year old set of Herbert roller lifters on our nostalgia street rod engine---it probably has 100,000 miles on the track and street---but at lower roller spring pressures and the cam is mild enough to keep the roller on the cam.

What to look for? Roller diameter is one thing, bearing size is another, the size of the bearing axle and how it is attached in another thing to consider. Don't automatically discount any particuler brand roller---Comp has two different roller lifters---one is just OK, the other is very good. Look at the lifters themselves. And the price does tend to indicate how good a roller lifter is.

Jesel produces a very good roller lifter---but not many need a Jesel lifter either. Isky roller lifters are hard to beat---far from the cheapest---but their lifters will stay with you! If you are going to use a mild roller cam/springs, most anybody's lifter will work OK!
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 07:48 PM

My spring pressure is about 350 closed and 830 open. I will look at the crower and the iskys

thanks

josh
Posted By: 40ford

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/18/09 11:29 PM

That is a lot of pressure---you must have a very heavy valve train. You definitely need good roller lifters!
Posted By: mcat4321

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 01:34 AM

lifters are on my winter to do list too...
who has the best prices on the isky and crower lifters? big block
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 03:08 AM

When making it boost requires a pretty heavy duty spring. The cam is pretty aggressive as well so I think that came into play.

I will look into these items.
Any other opinions
Posted By: brktracr

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 03:53 AM

When looking at the Isky, I recommend the Isky Red Zone lifters. Really nice pieces and I didn't think they were out of line, pricing wise, for what you get. My
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 04:20 AM

PM where you got yours and the price if you dont mind...

If there are any ISKY dealers on here let me know.
Posted By: Brian Hafliger

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 06:33 AM

I'm an Isky dealer, you can call me. # is on my website. I still prefer the lifters I showed you, we helped Comp develop them...
Brian
Posted By: thecarfarmer

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 10:56 AM

Quote:

The simple answer to "Are all roller lifters equal" is No! But, do you always need to buy the very best---No!

Two things kill roller lifters----spring pressure and lifter float. If you run fairly low spring pressures and always keep the lifter on the cam---then practically all roller lifters will last a very long time. I am installing a 50 year old set of Herbert roller lifters on our nostalgia street rod engine---it probably has 100,000 miles on the track and street---but at lower roller spring pressures and the cam is mild enough to keep the roller on the cam.

What to look for? Roller diameter is one thing, bearing size is another, the size of the bearing axle and how it is attached in another thing to consider. Don't automatically discount any particuler brand roller---Comp has two different roller lifters---one is just OK, the other is very good. Look at the lifters themselves. And the price does tend to indicate how good a roller lifter is.

Jesel produces a very good roller lifter---but not many need a Jesel lifter either. Isky roller lifters are hard to beat---far from the cheapest---but their lifters will stay with you! If you are going to use a mild roller cam/springs, most anybody's lifter will work OK!


I'm going w/ Herbert lifters; the cam is an Engle street grind I got from Cab Burge, the springs should have just under 200# on the seat and right around 500# over the nose. I'll check the lifters occasionally and see how they hold up.

-bill
Posted By: dvw

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 05:54 PM

Which Comp roller is the good one?
Doug
Posted By: Brian Hafliger

Re: Are all roller lifters created equal??? - 01/19/09 09:00 PM

I'm not sure if Comp is selling this exact lifter body or not...my order guy cannot confirm it for sure.
My deal is worked out with their supplier, so that's where I get them from.
I can get std. or .180 offset pushrod seats also.

Brian
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