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Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation

Posted By: RoadRunner

Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:34 PM

I am thinking about adding a blow proof housing as I swap in a 426 hemi into my Road Runner. Any recommendations? I am running a McLeod dual disc clutch set up with 130 tooth flywheel with Hemi fourspeed. I also plan on using TTI headers. I know Lakewood makes one. Is there a particular model or part number I need? I have read on posts here before about having to grind on flange to clear clutch linkage. Any other pitfalls I may run into? Thanks.
Posted By: booger

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:41 PM

I had to cut about 3/4" off the Z-bar width to get a Lakewood installed in a 70 gTx. Other than that and grinding the tunnel lip it was pretty straight-forward.

The things weigh a ton and if you dial it in you'll probably be installing it more than once. So, do some push ups to get ready (or do what I did and use a transmission jack to do the lifting).
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:41 PM

Quicktime makes a nice piece. My son is using one right now. In the past he actually had a Mcleod twin in the car. He did have to do some dialing in, but that's recommended with any after market bellhousing.
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:42 PM

What's your primary use? Street or strip?
Lakewood and QuickTime. The QT housing is a little smaller and lighter so easier to work with.

TTI also sells a z bar for use with their hemi headers and/or has some specs on what you might have to modify on your existing z bar.

http://www.manciniracing.com/bellhousings.html

The needed modification
http://www.ttiexhaust.com/Footnotes/28.htm

http://www.ttiexhaust.com/Category-ClassicHeaders/Hemi/TTiHEMI-218.htm
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/21/15 04:20 AM

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Quicktime makes a nice piece. My son is using one right now. In the past he actually had a Mcleod twin in the car. He did have to do some dialing in, but that's recommended with any after market bellhousing.




If you are running a 130 tooth wheel the Quicktime is the one to use. From everyone I talked to be prepared to do some custom fabrication on your clutch linkage

Gus

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Posted By: farmboy

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/21/15 09:03 PM

I just sent back a Quicktime, that was was out of alignment. Total indicator run out was over .050. Quicktime tech didn't seem to care. They suggested offset dowels, even though, I am not aware of any that correct over .037. I hope they don't try and resale that turkey. Just installed a new Bohr aluminum, that checked perfect.
Posted By: mprhound

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/21/15 11:13 PM

If you plan on running stock bell crank and stock linkage I wouldn't use the QuickTime
Way to many issues,I dealt with them during Dragweek last year
After finally getting the rinky dink bracket guested so it wouldn't bend the whole starter area of the bellhousing began flexing
I came home and found a lake wood to put in my car
Posted By: RoadRunner

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/26/15 06:53 PM

Looks like the Lakewood unit, PN 15330 is just about impossible to get. The 15335 is available, but the center bore for transmission is 5.125" diameter versus my 4.80" diameter bearing retainer. I am not sure if anyone makes an adapter ring. The Quick Time unit looks like it has an adapter ring. I had planned on using stock z-bar and linkage. Maybe I will use stock factory bell housing until I can sort this out.
Posted By: booger

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/26/15 07:23 PM

My Lakewood came with the adapter ring. If you order one and don't get it, I'll send you the one I've got.
Posted By: rowin4

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/26/15 09:43 PM

Back when I started racing I seen a chevy car blow a pressure plate , it came up through the floor boards then continued up and out in front of the wind shield. Basically totaling the car. Also while all that was happening the floor board metal was rapped around the drivers foot breaking it and secured him in the car. That made a pretty good impression on me at the time and ordered a lakewood as soon as I got home. Back then I still ran a stock flywheel and clutch assembly but felt secure knowing that everything would be retained in the Lakewood if something did let go. Dialing in the bell housing is just something you have to do on any aftermarket piece. If your just going to street drive just use what you have , if your going to do any high RPM shifting , do yourself and others a favor, buy a blow proof bell housing.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/26/15 10:14 PM

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Quicktime makes a nice piece. My son is using one right now. In the past he actually had a Mcleod twin in the car. He did have to do some dialing in, but that's recommended with any, factory or after market bellhousing.




fixed
Posted By: oldiron

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/26/15 10:26 PM

just a reminder about safety

http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/Cars/Drag-Racing/UMTR/UMTR-at-National-Trail-2013/i-jSvtS8Z/A
Posted By: dogdays

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/26/15 11:01 PM

Can't the 5.125" retainer be swapped on the transmission in place of the 4.80"? They're not that expensive.

R.
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 01:07 AM

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Looks like the Lakewood unit, PN 15330 is just about impossible to get. The 15335 is available, but the center bore for transmission is 5.125" diameter versus my 4.80" diameter bearing retainer. I am not sure if anyone makes an adapter ring. The Quick Time unit looks like it has an adapter ring. I had planned on using stock z-bar and linkage. Maybe I will use stock factory bell housing until I can sort this out.




The 335 comes with that adaptor ring to run the 4.80. If you're running an early tranny with the 4.35 retainer you will need the adaptor ring for that as well. I countersunk the 4.35 ring into the 4.80 ring so it all goes together right for my '67 tranny.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Blowproof Cluthc Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 04:22 AM

Quote:

just a reminder about safety

http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/Cars/Drag-Racing/UMTR/UMTR-at-National-Trail-2013/i-jSvtS8Z/A


Dayum! Wheel of death....
Posted By: RoadRunner

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 02:14 PM

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Quote:

Looks like the Lakewood unit, PN 15330 is just about impossible to get. The 15335 is available, but the center bore for transmission is 5.125" diameter versus my 4.80" diameter bearing retainer. I am not sure if anyone makes an adapter ring. The Quick Time unit looks like it has an adapter ring. I had planned on using stock z-bar and linkage. Maybe I will use stock factory bell housing until I can sort this out.




The 335 comes with that adaptor ring to run the 4.80. If you're running an early tranny with the 4.35 retainer you will need the adaptor ring for that as well. I countersunk the 4.35 ring into the 4.80 ring so it all goes together right for my '67 tranny.




Glad to hear adapter comes with it. Looks like I will order teh 15335 this weekend.
Posted By: jake4cars

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 09:05 PM

PM sent

Joey
Posted By: rowin4

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 09:40 PM

What transmission takes a bearing retainer that is 5.125? I thought the 4.80 was the largest diameter
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 09:57 PM

OD 833s
Posted By: rowin4

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 10:19 PM

So the original poster is going to drop in a Hemi and use that piece of crap OD transmission. They wouldn't hold the torque of a 318 . Didn't they have a aluminum case with a small output shaft? I think I have one with the main shaft twisted off.
Posted By: RoadRunner

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 10:26 PM

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What transmission takes a bearing retainer that is 5.125? I thought the 4.80 was the largest diameter




That is why I was confused. I figured the 4.80" diameter would be a no-brainer to offer in a blowproof housing. I could see an adapter to go down to the smaller size. But start at 5.125" diamter?

Maybe the 5.125" bearing retainer offers additional strenght? I prefer to run the transmission I have as is. So if there is an adapter to go from 5.125" dia to 4.80" dia then I am OK. I normally deal with stock or close to stock engine builds. The new hemi isn't close to stock and will make power (on paper anyways) up to 7000rpm. Hence my concern.
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Blowproof Clutch Housing Recommendation - 03/27/15 10:37 PM

It fits a bunch of later truck transmissions as well, 420, 435, 4500, T-18, and NV4500. He doesn't need to use OD. Its just designed to give more options. Lots of guys are looking to cruise on the highway now.

If the bellhousing has a 4.8 input retainer diameter you can only run the older 833. The larger diameter opens up possibilities while still allowing the strong iron case 833.

It DOES come with the adapter to run a 4.8 input tranny, at least mine did.
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