Posted By: dakotawilly
kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 05:58 AM
for all the big dog mopar racers out there,kaase 820 cubic inch mopar hemi,5 x 12 billet block,1800 plus horsepower.call for price {sitting down of course}.....
kaase 820ci mopar hemi
Posted By: SpareParts
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 10:05 AM
No big deal, just ordered 3 LMAO!! 
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 02:35 PM
If you gotta ask how much......... 
Posted By: hemicop
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 05:29 PM
YEAH!-------------- THAT'LLL fit in an A-body!
Posted By: Rob C
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 05:58 PM
Quote:
YEAH!-------------- THAT'LLL fit in an A-body!
Sure will! Who's first?!!
Posted By: QTR MILR
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 06:15 PM
I hope it runs on pump gas!!
Posted By: Randy..
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 06:22 PM
That's Killer but twin billlit 88s on anything over 400 CID will make more power.
Posted By: GY3
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 06:44 PM
So what makes it a Mopar? 
Posted By: unknown
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 07:32 PM
Quote:It says so on the valve cover,
So what makes it a Mopar?
Posted By: blowndart
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 08:29 PM
Quote:
YEAH!-------------- THAT'LLL fit in an A-body!
A-body with a strut front end.
Posted By: tubtar
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 09:28 PM
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So what makes it a Mopar?
Well duh ?
It is obviously a Hemi 99 on steroids.
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/07/15 10:56 PM
The Kaase "Mopar" Hemi, is a carbon copy of his "Ford" Hemi, with the exception of the spark plug locations. Go to the Kaase site, click on products, look at the chamber side shot of the FORD hemi, picture the spark plugs moved inside on the center cylinders and outside on the end cylinders and you have the MOPAR Hemi.............That's IT in a nutshell, and of course some cool MOPAR valve covers...........LOL!!
Same block, same head, same everything, other than the plug location. seen several of each at PDRA races
Monte
Same block, same head, same everything, other than the plug location. seen several of each at PDRA races
Monte
Posted By: GY3
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 12:07 AM
Quote:Quote:It says so on the valve cover,
So what makes it a Mopar?
I actually typed out: "besides the milled Mopar name on the valvecover.."
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 12:12 AM
At that level it has no "brand". What is the bellhousing pattern/starter pattern? It's a 100% aftermarket Kaase engine that uses whatever is best.
Posted By: MattW
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 12:44 AM
Quote:
The Kaase "Mopar" Hemi, is a carbon copy of his "Ford" Hemi, with the exception of the spark plug locations. Go to the Kaase site, click on products, look at the chamber side shot of the FORD hemi, picture the spark plugs moved inside on the center cylinders and outside on the end cylinders and you have the MOPAR Hemi.............That's IT in a nutshell, and of course some cool MOPAR valve covers...........LOL!!
Same block, same head, same everything, other than the plug location. seen several of each at PDRA races
Monte
Monte your hatred for mopar is obvious.
It's says mopar on the cover it must be one.
Plus it's the new G3 going into the new srt ram. Matt
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 01:36 AM
No hatred from me whatsoever. Wish I had one, although don't know what I would do with it..........But from a "what is it point".....that motor is as much of a Mopar, as it is a Ford or a Chevy. The main answer being NONE. It is an aftermarket aluminum race engine. The only factory parts from ANYBODY that likely fit it, would probably be a BBC water pump and it has a GM trans pattern.
Now, let me pose you this question. If I show up with the above motor, at an "All Mopar" power event........can I run it, because it is advertised on Kaase site as a Mopar and says it on the valve covers. The answer is likely yes.........Now on the flip side, I build an all aluminum, aftermarket 5.0 bore space wedge motor and show up at same event, with Mopar scrawled on the covers.....they will run me off and holler "that's a Chevy motor"........THAT is my issue, with all this stuff. No consistency on what is and isn't
Monte
Now, let me pose you this question. If I show up with the above motor, at an "All Mopar" power event........can I run it, because it is advertised on Kaase site as a Mopar and says it on the valve covers. The answer is likely yes.........Now on the flip side, I build an all aluminum, aftermarket 5.0 bore space wedge motor and show up at same event, with Mopar scrawled on the covers.....they will run me off and holler "that's a Chevy motor"........THAT is my issue, with all this stuff. No consistency on what is and isn't
Monte
Posted By: unknown
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 01:45 AM
Who cares what it is or what it looks like, If I had the money that would be one sweet motor in a Cuda or Duster for the Midwest Mountain Motor Nostalgia Pro Stock Drag Racing.
Posted By: johnnycuda
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 02:47 AM
If I win the Powerball, I'll be ordering one and then let Monte put a plate on it!
Posted By: Crizila
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 03:27 AM
Quote:Sorry, but it needs to go in this - cause I got the room.
Who cares what it is or what it looks like, If I had the money that would be one sweet motor in a Cuda or Duster for the Midwest Mountain Motor Nostalgia Pro Stock Drag Racing.
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 04:03 AM
regardless of what it really is,the mopar faithfull have at least a glimmer of some competitive horsepower packaged in a more similar fashion than the other billet motors.yes its still a hybrid,but,it sure looks familiar in more ways than the others.even knowing thats a petty and silly comparison,apples to oranges,why not?its the largest mopar "style" mountain motor to date and everybody knows we all want one.....
Posted By: quickd100
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 04:18 AM
Pretty motor but for that much money I'd rather build a blown gen II hemi and make more power with cash still in the bank.Dave 
Posted By: gofish
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 04:31 AM
I think Monte is correct (again). The valve covers are nothing like the 99 Hemi, they look just like the Kaase Ford Hemi (which is not at all like the real original Ford hemi design) with the spark plug locations moved. Morgan's Ford Hemi was just a copy of the 99 Hemi, which was a copy of the Chevy wedge with the spark plugs moved.
I feel if it does not use factory parts, that is with factory part numbers, it is simply aftermarket. Several years back Dodge Pro Stock teams had to come up with another block as the one they were using was the same one used by Chevrolet, even though they were manufactured by an aftermarket company. In today's cookie cutter Pro Stock cars, I suspect even the NHRA would allow all makes to use the same parts, if it was not for sponsors crying foul.
There is nothing stock about Pro Stock.
Danny
I feel if it does not use factory parts, that is with factory part numbers, it is simply aftermarket. Several years back Dodge Pro Stock teams had to come up with another block as the one they were using was the same one used by Chevrolet, even though they were manufactured by an aftermarket company. In today's cookie cutter Pro Stock cars, I suspect even the NHRA would allow all makes to use the same parts, if it was not for sponsors crying foul.
There is nothing stock about Pro Stock.
Danny
Posted By: MattW
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 04:40 AM
Monte your hatred for mopar is obvious.
It's says mopar on the cover it must be one.
Plus it's the new G3 going into the new srt ram. Matt
Before there's any misconception this
was a joke.My personal opinion is that soon everything will become cookie cutter powerplant racing.
Must be getting old cuz even the factory racing is getting bad
Anyway rant is over but it's still an impressive piece. Matt
Posted By: BlueDart
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 05:07 AM
When Im back in my shop I'll take some pics of Kaase's protype of the ford hemi he came up with years ago it's a block of wood of one cly that he used to design the head with a lot of work went into it he gave it to me when I got the Sf600 bench he used at that time it's a good conversation piece at the shop
Posted By: jim sciortino
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 06:05 AM
Quote:The same thing that makes every aftermarket Ford and Chevy......a Ford and Chevy.
So what makes it a Mopar?
Posted By: rowin4
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 07:05 AM
Quote:
for all the big dog mopar racers out there,kaase 820 cubic inch mopar hemi,5 x 12 billet block,1800 plus horsepower.call for price {sitting down of course}.....
I'm already on my way, I've got the same remote oil filter and puke tank.
Posted By: tubtar
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 09:03 AM
Quote:Quote:
for all the big dog mopar racers out there,kaase 820 cubic inch mopar hemi,5 x 12 billet block,1800 plus horsepower.call for price {sitting down of course}.....
I'm already on my way, I've got the same remote oil filter and puke tank.
Ahhhhh..........the 820 " Hemi starter kit.
SWEEEEEEET !!!
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/08/15 04:36 PM
until somebody comes up with a block and heads to break the 622/655 barrier, its a spot of glimmer for the fast mopar crowd.even if it is a horse with zebra stripes.i am pretty sure they would let you in an all mopar event with it.now,all thats required is to sell your house and move into a van down by the river to buy one....
Posted By: Diablo
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 02:33 AM
Quote:
until somebody comes up with a block and heads to break the 622/655 barrier, its a spot of glimmer for the fast mopar crowd.even if it is a horse with zebra stripes.i am pretty sure they would let you in an all mopar event with it.now,all thats required is to sell your house and move into a van down by the river to buy one....
It all can be done already. Mother Mopar doesn't have any 5" heads out there any longer but plenty of 4.9 Hemi Prostocks ones. Get a Billet Block under that and build a big cubed engine. Or get lucky and find a set of 5" 99 heads and get a 5" billet block and build a 700-800ci engine.
The 5" engine I ran two seasons ago wasn't even a Billet block. It was a Donovan block that came with blank Lifter Galley. We kept it at 650ci (because thats our limit) but it could had been a 700-800ci engine.
I know Goodwin "based" the idea of his "Hemi" heads off the 99 stuff. Both him and Kaase kept working with the Hemi 99 5" stuff after mother mopar gave up on them. My Goodwin Engine is based on a 5" BS and 650ci (because our rules don;t allow larger then 650 or 5"). But the same engine can go 5.3BS and up to 1000ci to match what Sonny is doing. Just need the $$$ have it built.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 04:35 AM
I would love to be able to swing a Goodwin motor. Maybe he wants to sponsor a drag racer
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 04:55 AM
i forgot about the goodwin stuff,not much press around here on that.the 5 in 99 stuff is stashed away somewhere under somebodys mattress.cant recall the last time i saw any for sale.we all know its out there somewhere....
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 05:04 AM
There was a set on RJ not long ago.
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 05:14 AM
i am not ready to take that big of a leap,if i were, larry morgans shop is right down the road.i would check there first.he probably has some for door stops,haha.....
Posted By: sasquatch
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 06:36 AM
I don't know much about the Kasse deal but that picture is one of Sonny Leonards Chemis he called them. They been around awhile....Let the 
continue unabated. Todd 
continue unabated. Todd
Posted By: 6PAK70CUDA
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 07:03 AM
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That's Killer but twin billlit 88s on anything over 400 CID will make more power.
Who cares? You are missing the point. Set your browser to Fast Import or something else.
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 08:08 AM
Quote:No...it's NOT. The Chemi has scallops on the bottom of the head, this one does not
I don't know much about the Kasse deal but that picture is one of Sonny Leonards Chemis he called them. They been around awhile....Let the
Monte
Posted By: sasquatch
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 02:57 PM
Well then do tell how I have that EXACT same photo from 2006> off of Leonards website. I cannot tell you anything about Kasse's engine but that photo has been around awhile. I Know little about either motor except what I have read. Still a cool deal, still like you said an aftermarket aluminum motor that has as much to do with a Mopar as the space shuttle and all that...BUT that PHOTO is nothing new. Kasse's deal I do not know.
Todd
Todd
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 03:38 PM
Remember when John Force was crowing about his "Ford" Hemi in his Ford Mustang top fuel funny car? You know, the Mopar Hemi with the Ford valve covers?
Posted By: jlatessa
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 03:46 PM
Yeah, watching the races at Pomona last night,
my shorts get wadded up every time I see that top fuelie
with TOYOTA valve covers!!!
Joe
my shorts get wadded up every time I see that top fuelie
with TOYOTA valve covers!!!
Joe
Posted By: Monte_Smith
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 04:43 PM
You mean this pic Todd? The Chevy head is diff on the bottom because of exhaust valve spring location, which requires the scallops. NOW, does it matter........No. They are all aftermarket heads and very similar. But the ones at top of page are not the Sonnys castings
Posted By: sasquatch
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 08:41 PM
Yes Monte that shows the current configuration. If you go on Sonnys sight he has 10 different Monster combos using heads like that including some he calls Ford. The photo at the top of the page was from 2006 or 8 years ago when at that time Sonny had the same kind of deal as now whereby the GM FOrd and Hemi were all virtually identical. I suspect mayby some IHRA rules for Mountain Motor Prostock said that they had to have the logo or something like that. Anywho I was just saying I do not know if the picture at the top is of Kasse's actual deal or not. If you guys want to get real scared go on Sonny Leonards website and do some price shopping.... 
Posted By: BradH
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 08:50 PM
"Faux-Par" or not, one of those would look WONDERFUL in the engine bay of my '73 Challenger... even w/ the 8.75" rear just waiting to explode like a new solar system the first time I'd hit the throttle.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 09:07 PM
Pricing on those big Sonnys deal is easy. They are basically $100 a cube by the time you actually get done. Have a friend who just purchased a 777"er from them. My new car was equipped with one of those 820" deals when it ran IRHA pro stock.
Opps fixed it fat fingers
Opps fixed it fat fingers
Posted By: Twostick
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 09:57 PM
Are you sure you didn't slip a decimal there Al?
$777,000.00 sounds a little steep even by Formula 1 standards.
Kevin
$777,000.00 sounds a little steep even by Formula 1 standards.
Kevin
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 10:39 PM
the pic i posted came directly from kaase website,it is the actual motor that he produces.either way its a small change of pace from the sonnys chemi and the ford deals in some ways.although it says mopar on the valve covers, it is what it is.a hybrid race motor like the others.but the point is,give some credit where credit is due,john took the liberty of styling it after and calling it a MOPAR,when others didnt.we all know its NOT a mopar by any means other than name alone.but at least its something for the faithfull.good bad or ugly.and thats the only reason i posted this.its a close as the mopar crowd will EVER get to an actual mopar mountain motor.this post was simply meant to be informative.nothing more,nothing less.....
Posted By: Guitar Jones
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/09/15 11:34 PM
Quote:
...and move into a van down by the river...
Already there...
Posted By: cudaman1969
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/10/15 10:38 PM
Quote:
Are you sure you didn't slip a decimal there Al?
$777,000.00 sounds a little steep even by Formula 1 standards.
Kevin
100 dollars per cube, add two zeros to 777
Posted By: Hemi Allstate
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 02:36 AM
Quote:Quote:
Are you sure you didn't slip a decimal there Al?
$777,000.00 sounds a little steep even by Formula 1 standards.
Kevin
100 dollars per cube, add two zeros to 777
Can we get a deal on a "Group Buy" !?
Mark
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 02:39 AM
well,with over 20,000 members on here thats about 4 bucks a piece for a joint effort... 
Posted By: Twostick
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 02:46 AM
Quote:Quote:
Are you sure you didn't slip a decimal there Al?
$777,000.00 sounds a little steep even by Formula 1 standards.
Kevin
100 dollars per cube, add two zeros to 777
He corrected the post. It did say $1000 a cube.
Kevin
Posted By: cudaman1969
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 05:16 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
Are you sure you didn't slip a decimal there Al?
$777,000.00 sounds a little steep even by Formula 1 standards.
Kevin
100 dollars per cube, add two zeros to 777
He corrected the post. It did say $1000 a cube.
Kevin
Didn't see the first post, my apologies
Posted By: Plumb Wired
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 06:05 PM
Quote:
I would love to be able to swing a Goodwin motor. Maybe he wants to sponsor a drag racer
I tried that angle at PRI a couple of years ago and it didn't work for me but you're a bigger name so maybe it will for you Al. lol
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 06:20 PM
Quote:
well,with over 20,000 members on here thats about 4 bucks a piece for a joint effort...
Heck I am in for $8. Will even volunteer the car to put it in. Will even get a Moparts wrap done, so come on who is
Mike well if it did not work for you I have no chance..So the above idea sounds even better now.
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 11:18 PM
theres an idea,be the first to crowdfund a top sportsman car.maybe get kaase to advertise too,im in for 8 bucks.hmmmmm, this just may have merit.now just need 9,998 more..... 
Posted By: BlueDart
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 11:28 PM
Here is the Kasse ford hemi prototype he gave me years ago when I got the flowbench from him used to design this. this became his prostock head I'm sure it's changed since then I was at his shop a few months ago and he had forgot about making this
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Posted By: BlueDart
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 11:29 PM
another
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Posted By: BlueDart
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/11/15 11:30 PM
1 more
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Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/12/15 01:30 AM
Blue Dart,
That would make a cool pencil holder for a nice desk
That would make a cool pencil holder for a nice desk
Posted By: BlueDart
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/12/15 04:49 AM
That's a good idea I'll have to do that with it's just collecting dust in the shop now there is a lot of work in that block of wood and body filler I even have the blue prints he drew out for it
Posted By: tubtar
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/12/15 05:23 AM
Quote:
theres an idea,be the first to crowdfund a top sportsman car.maybe get kaase to advertise too,im in for 8 bucks.hmmmmm, this just may have merit.now just need 9,998 more.....
Heck , write me in for 10.00 and you can do it in pen.
As crazy ideas go , this one actually has merit.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/12/15 05:53 AM
Well we have $26 bucks now. Almost there
Posted By: CTD5.9
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/12/15 06:22 AM
I'd throw in $20 if you run a 727 
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/12/15 03:55 PM
Well how bout if we just use three gears will that count. I already have a bullet proof Rossler 
Posted By: dakotawilly
Re: kaase 820ci mopar hemi - 02/12/15 06:51 PM
all we need now is a pic of your car with no motor in it,a young child in tattered clothing standing in the engine compartment with a cardboard sign reading "motorless"my daddy suffers from nemcci,not enough mopar competitive cubic inches.a common form of moparitis. please help my daddy race again.then we can put it on youtube..... 