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Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do!

Posted By: Triggerfish

Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 05:30 PM

I posted this in the handling forum, but didn't want you all to miss it.
New Challengers win the T/A 2 Championship at Daytona & this video shows how awesome the Hemi is. Sounds like Petty's 64 & laps the field like it, too.
I love how the Vette's can't hang with Cameron, so make sure you watch the entire video so you can see how he devastates the field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMzsgD94HFc

Also, here's his race video at Lime Rock where he takes the lead from Andretti on lap 21. This is a real cliff hanger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sX0vNIJHnU

Attached picture 8344421-ClarkTADaytonaRace-1.jpg
Posted By: AlexP

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 06:33 PM

More proof...these motors are amazing!
Posted By: onig

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 08:32 PM

Wow, that car is dialed in and some excellent driving skills to boot.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 08:38 PM

For sure its dialed in, he had them covered everywhere, pull them on the straights (HEMI power) and braking later into the corners (chassis/driving), so good to see this
At the 6:04 mark he starts driving around the other cars like pylons
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 08:44 PM

Anyone have pics of the engine? I'd especially like to see how the oil system and crank case ventilation is set up. Dry sump oiling I'm assuming.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 08:50 PM

Engine, aluminum block, dry sump
http://content.worldcarfans.co/2014/8/14/super/4929852901205101569.jpg
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 09:00 PM

http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/08/19/srt-m...ui-state=dialog

Pic of the motor
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 09:41 PM

Thanks, definitely looks "busy" under the hood
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/28/14 10:51 PM

Does anybody know the engine rules off the top of their heads? Looks like a 05-08 LX intake (could be an 09 and up intake though)
Posted By: dvw

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/29/14 12:09 AM

I got to see them do test laps at work about 2 months ago. From what I understand they have ASA stock style chassis converted to turn right and left. Motors are restricted to around 450hp from what I was told. They sound way better in person.
Doug
Posted By: MattW

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/29/14 08:58 PM

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Wow, that car is dialed in and some excellent driving skills to boot.



That driver is very good. I think he would of lapped everyone regardless of what car he was in.
Matt
Posted By: Crizila

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/29/14 09:13 PM

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I posted this in the handling forum, but didn't want you all to miss it.
New Challengers win the T/A Championship at Daytona & this video shows how awesome the Hemi is. Sounds like Petty's 64 & laps the field like it, too.
I love how the Vette's can't hang with Cameron, so make sure you watch the entire video so you can see how he devastates the field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMzsgD94HFc

In a word - - - IMPRESSIVE!
Posted By: Moparmal

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 02:30 AM

I'd KILL for an exhaust note like that!!!
Posted By: 340RICK

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 02:59 AM

Bad to the bone
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 04:32 AM

Too bad Chrysler has zero loyalty to operations like that and will likely pull all support a year from now.

Recently they axed the rally cross darts, off road Rams, NASCAR, Lemans Vipers - am I forgetting any?
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 04:47 AM

Fiat seems to have an ax to grind with any success in Motorsports that doesn't have Ferrari on it.
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 05:24 AM

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Fiat seems to have an ax to grind with any success in Motorsports that doesn't have Ferrari on it.



I doubt Fiat has any radar on it, its likely NA operations treating these things as short term marketing projects - no immediate profit? Axe it.

This will be no different - its just part of the 2015 Challenger launch marketing spend.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 05:51 AM

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Fiat seems to have an ax to grind with any success in Motorsports that doesn't have Ferrari on it.



They just did the HellCat
Posted By: GY3

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 05:55 AM

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Too bad Chrysler has zero loyalty to operations like that and will likely pull all support a year from now.

Recently they axed the rally cross darts, off road Rams, NASCAR, Lemans Vipers - am I forgetting any?



They left NASCAR because no competitive teams were available. Penske leveraged his other sponsor positions to get a better deal/tie in with Ford.

As for the other racing venues, there just isn't enough exposure to warrant the money spent.

They are still going strong in NHRA.
Posted By: swifter

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 06:55 AM

Sure would be interesting to have seen john force finish his career sitting in a car with a "M" on it------say what u want his record speaks for itself-swifter
Posted By: dvw

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 03:22 PM

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Fiat seems to have an ax to grind with any success in Motorsports that doesn't have Ferrari on it.



I doubt Fiat has any radar on it, its likely NA operations treating these things as short term marketing projects - no immediate profit? Axe it.

This will be no different - its just part of the 2015 Challenger launch marketing spend.



This "kid" was leading the Tans Am series at mid season in a Camaro and was hired away along with Tommy Kendall to run a Dodge.

http://www.drivesrt.com/news/2014/11/cameron-lawrence-wins-trans-am-title-for-dodge.html
Posted By: 74yellowduster

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 11/30/14 04:08 PM

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Fiat seems to have an ax to grind with any success in Motorsports that doesn't have Ferrari on it.



I doubt Fiat has any radar on it, its likely NA operations treating these things as short term marketing projects - no immediate profit? Axe it.

This will be no different - its just part of the 2015 Challenger launch marketing spend.



just got a '15 chally r/t ... it's an impressive vehicle. i'm totally in love with it.

and you do know that the '16 darts are all wheel drive? that has rally written all over it

p.s. the chally's are made in Ontario, so hate fiat all you want lmao
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/01/14 06:55 PM

Really enjoyed the video thanks for posting! Makes me rethink running a 5.2 magnum in my Dart and stepping up to a 5.7 Hemi instead.
Posted By: AlexP

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/01/14 07:29 PM

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Really enjoyed the video thanks for posting! Makes me rethink running a 5.2 magnum in my Dart and stepping up to a 5.7 Hemi instead.



OOTB the cylinder head is 80-120 cfm better. Most of the same difficulty to install also.
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/01/14 08:27 PM

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Really enjoyed the video thanks for posting! Makes me rethink running a 5.2 magnum in my Dart and stepping up to a 5.7 Hemi instead.



OOTB the cylinder head is 80-120 cfm better. Most of the same difficulty to install also.



Agree on the head flow, not on the rest as I have already done LA to Magnum swap on 2 other cars. Very, very easy and fairly inexpensive to install a magnum 5.2 or 5.9 in an a-body. Such a huge advantage over LA I got rid of all my old LA hardware.

I'll do the numbers again, perhaps some of the required swap hardware has come down in price and the numbers look more feasible. Problem finding good hemi engines too. $3000 for junk with 100,000+ miles.
Posted By: AlexP

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/01/14 08:41 PM

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Really enjoyed the video thanks for posting! Makes me rethink running a 5.2 magnum in my Dart and stepping up to a 5.7 Hemi instead.



OOTB the cylinder head is 80-120 cfm better. Most of the same difficulty to install also.



Agree on the head flow, not on the rest as I have already done LA to Magnum swap on 2 other cars. Very, very easy and fairly inexpensive to install a magnum 5.2 or 5.9 in an a-body. Such a huge advantage over LA I got rid of all my old LA hardware.

I'll do the numbers again, perhaps some of the required swap hardware has come down in price and the numbers look more feasible. Problem finding good hemi engines too. $3000 for junk with 100,000+ miles.



I've seen complete 5.7 car motors for $500-1700 down here. The expensive one even had a 5 speed auto attached.

The headers and the EFI are expensive, but worth it.
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/01/14 09:17 PM

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I've seen complete 5.7 car motors for $500-1700 down here. The expensive one even had a 5 speed auto attached.

The headers and the EFI are expensive, but worth it.



$1000. 100,000 miles, overheated and needs headgaskets.

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/pts/4756410321.html

This would be a typical ad here in the north-east.


$3500 for 2006 with "bad lifter" no miles listed.

http://nwct.craigslist.org/pts/4696083291.html
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/02/14 09:55 PM

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I've seen complete 5.7 car motors for $500-1700 down here. The expensive one even had a 5 speed auto attached.

The headers and the EFI are expensive, but worth it.



$1000. 100,000 miles, overheated and needs headgaskets.

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/pts/4756410321.html

This would be a typical ad here in the north-east.


$3500 for 2006 with "bad lifter" no miles listed.

http://nwct.craigslist.org/pts/4696083291.html



you can get re-manned long blocks w/o intake and bracets for $1700-up. Or you can just bite the bullet and get the whole ball of wax and spend 6k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-DODGE-CHALLEN...18d&vxp=mtr
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/02/14 10:15 PM

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you can get re-manned long blocks w/o intake and bracets for $1700-up. Or you can just bite the bullet and get the whole ball of wax and spend 6k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-DODGE-CHALLEN...18d&vxp=mtr



For me in the northeast the price per dollar isn't there yet. If I want a 400 hp small block I'm better off with the magnum engine package. I have considered going big with a stroker 400B engine which in a 3400 pound Dart would be entertaining as hell.

Still have time even though I still have most of the small block parts on hand.

If I went 5.7 hemi I'd go all the way with the fuel injection and matching trans.
Posted By: gremlinsteve

Re: Shows what the Gen 3 Hemi can do! - 12/03/14 03:22 AM

I think that's the car I had supplied a cam for. Good to see it running
Thanks for the video. Fun the watch
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